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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2006Need To Know
Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've encountered with a compact flash card. I've often used an e-Film Pr0 Delkin Compact Flash 640mb card. I've never encountered a problem when using this device. Then suddenly, without any warning, the compact flash card will not function in either of my cameras. When inserted in the 1DMKII, the monitor displays a need to format the card but when attempting to format, the card can't be formatted. When installed in my 30D, "error cf" is displayed and the card can't be formatted. This compact flash card has never been abused. Its never been dropped, gotten wet, or been difficult to insert in either camera or in any computer. I don't have a clue as to why the card failed. It's worked well for about the last 8 months, until it suddenly died. Has anyone encountered the same problem with a compact flash card and does anyone know what may have been the cause of its failure. I'm not overly concerned that it failed but I would like to know what may have caused the card to fail. > Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've encountered > with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > overly concerned that it failed but I would like to know what may have > caused the card to fail. Yes, I have had similar problems with lexar cards and my 1D Mark II. Cards can fail. Have plenty of backup. Roger >> Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've >> encountered with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Roger Thanks Roger. Apparently it's not unusual for a CF to suddenly fail. Fortunately, I keep several CF's readily handy. > >> Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've > >> encountered with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Thanks Roger. Apparently it's not unusual for a CF to suddenly fail. > Fortunately, I keep several CF's readily handy. Have you made any attempts to format the card? I have not yet had a card fail on me and would like to know. >>>> Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've >>>> encountered with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>>> overly concerned that it failed but I would like to know what may have >>>> caused the card to fail. >>> Yes, I have had similar problems with lexar cards and my >>> 1D Mark II. Cards can fail. Have plenty of backup. >>> >>> Roger >> Thanks Roger. Apparently it's not unusual for a CF to suddenly fail. >> Fortunately, I keep several CF's readily handy. > > Have you made any attempts to format the card? I have not yet had a > card fail on me and would like to know. Hi APEX, Yes indeed. I've made several attempts to format the card. I've tried formatting using three cameras (1DMKII, 30D, and a C5050) and neither of the cameras can format the card. I've even tried formatting the card using my computer and could not format the card. The card is dead ... kaput, which really doesn't bother me but I would like to know why it died when up to the very end it worked perfectly. Gets me to wondering, if I had used the card and had it loaded with pictures, would it have died before the pictures could be downloaded. Hmmm ...... This may be a silly question, but is there a warranty for the card? > >>>> Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've > >>>> encountered with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > if I had used the card and had it loaded with pictures, would it have > died before the pictures could be downloaded. Hmmm ...... > This may be a silly question, but is there a warranty for the card? Oh, sure there is, as would be for most quality cards. Warranties and associated procedures along with length of time before a CF card will be replaced vary with manufacturer. >>>>>> Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've >>>>>> encountered with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> if I had used the card and had it loaded with pictures, would it have >> died before the pictures could be downloaded. Hmmm ...... >>>>> Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've >>>>> encountered with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > used the card and had it loaded with pictures, would it have died before > the pictures could be downloaded. Hmmm ...... I can answer one of your questions. If the card goes bad, anything on it is gone. There is software that can attempt to get the information back, but it's hit or miss. That's the reason my cards are only 1 gig, and I back them up to a hard drive equipped card reader immediately after they come out of the camera. A question for you. Do you completely fill the cards with information before you change them? I understand the counter on the camera is only approximate for the number of pictures left, due to JPG compression. I change the card when the counter gets to two. I shoot RAW + JPG high resolution on a Canon 30D. Another thing that may have gotten to your card is static electricity. Holley >>>>>> Perhaps someone else has experienced a similar problem I've >>>>>> encountered with a compact flash card. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > up to a hard drive equipped card reader immediately after they come out of > the camera. All my cards are the 1 gig type too. I prefer to use several cards rather than use one massive card. I too back them up to a hard drive ASAP. > A question for you. Do you completely fill the cards with information before > you change them? No, never have done that. For example, the 1DMKII when shooting RAW, will take about 92 shots, using a 1 gig Sandisk. I generally top-off at about 75 to 80 shots then change cards. The 1DMKII is the camera I use most of the time. Yep, I surely do like this camera. > I understand the counter on the camera is only approximate > for the number of pictures left, due to JPG compression. When using the 1DMKII, I shoot RAW; not RAW + JPG, just RAW. Should I decide to shoot JPG, I switch to the second installed 1 gig SD card and shoot high resolution JPG on that card. > I change the card > when the counter gets to two. I shoot RAW + JPG high resolution on a Canon > 30D. When using the 30D, much of the time I shoot high resolution JPG. Reason being I generally use the 30D at friendly gatherings and have a portable 4x6 printer so friends can have copies of shots. At such times I use the in-camera controls to adjust for sharpness, saturation, etc.. I also use the 30D, when necessary, to expand the use of my long lenses, taking advantage of the 1.6 crop factor. Now that I've said that, I suppose I should say something about shooting full frame. I considered getting the 1DsMKII to take advantage of my wide angle lenses, or to do away with crop factors. I thought about spending $7,000 for the camera, instead I opt to get a used mint condition Elan 7Ne for $125 and shoot Fuji Provia 100 film then scan the shots into my computer using my Minolta film scanner that had I stowed away when I decided to go all digital. (Shrug) So far I can't complain about making that decision. Besides, it's not a camera I often use but I do find it handy to have. I usually don't wait to shoot up a roll before developing and I don't mind the film/developing cost or wasting film. I also have the Olympus C5050 set to high resolution JPG. I generally use a 1 gig CF card and a 1 gig XD card in that camera. Frankly, I think the C5050 is one of the all-time greats when it comes down to P&S photo quality. True the RAW shot will have a quality edge after processing but it appears slight and besides I just use the C5050 for fun and games, so to speak. It's a "just in case camera" and it's always with me. > Another thing that may have gotten to your card is static electricity. I can't think of a time that would, or could have happened. No, I don't think that would be the cause of the Delkin CF card failure. But, it is a thought. > Holley |
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