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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2006Anybody using Neat Image noise reduction?
Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from respected people, what's his name, for instance, from Luminous Landscape : ) I'm having trouble getting the demo to open my D200 NEF files. Does any bobody know if the demo can even do this? Does it just do JPEG's? Steve >Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from respected >people, what's his name, for instance, from Luminous Landscape : ) What makes you think that Luminous Landscape is "respected"? It is full of self-important nonsense and pretentious ramblings that bear little or no relevance to reality. Of course I have to accept that some people might actually respect those things. >>Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >>limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Of course I have to accept that some people might actually respect > those things. Soooooo...anything to say about Neat Image? Steve >>Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >>limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > full of self-important nonsense and pretentious ramblings that bear > little or no relevance to reality. So unlike this newsgroup eh? >>Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >>limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from respected [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Of course I have to accept that some people might actually respect > those things. Pompous pudwhack. > full of self-important nonsense and pretentious ramblings that bear > little or no relevance to reality. mirror, mirror  Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >> full of self-important nonsense and pretentious ramblings that bear >> little or no relevance to reality. > > mirror, mirror C'mon, Alan; you don't really need to practically stalk Tony. I dare say many of us occasionally fall into the above, albeit for moments and not a lifetime. Peace and out. (!) SignatureJohn McWilliams >>> full of self-important nonsense and pretentious ramblings that bear >>> little or no relevance to reality. >> >> mirror, mirror >> > C'mon, Alan; you don't really need to practically stalk Tony. Stop stalking me. Plonk me. That'll be easier. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >>>> full of self-important nonsense and pretentious ramblings that bear >>>> little or no relevance to reality. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Stop stalking me. Plonk me. That'll be easier. Get real, Alan, as to any stalking on my part. I'm not about to plonk you; you are a real read 80% of the time. It's just the habit of twitting Tony at every turn that's exceptionally unnecessary and unwelcome except perhaps for a handful of guys. SignatureJohn McWilliams >> Stop stalking me. Plonk me. That'll be easier. >> >Get real, Alan, as to any stalking on my part. I'm not about to plonk >you; you are a real read 80% of the time. It's just the habit of >twitting Tony at every turn that's exceptionally unnecessary and >unwelcome except perhaps for a handful of guys. Not nearly as bad as your obsession with sigs. -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote: > Not nearly as bad as your obsession with sigs. Truly, Ed; it's bad. I see I've driven you to leave your sig delimiter outside of normal, so it doesn't work in some news readers. And I noticed that in another group, it was in proper format- so, are you punishing the readers here because I called you out on that a couple of times?? It'd take only a minute or so to fix it. Signaturejohn mcwilliams Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote: >> Get real, Alan, as to any stalking on my part. I'm not about to plonk >> you; you are a real read 80% of the time. It's just the habit of >> twitting Tony at every turn that's exceptionally unnecessary and >> unwelcome except perhaps for a handful of guys. > > Not nearly as bad as your obsession with sigs. Thank God he has a new fetish. For a moment I thought I had stepped in dog sh.t since he was following me around like a lost puppy. Some people just don't have anything better to do. Rita > Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty > limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Steve Love it. Excellent. I don't think it will directly open raw files . It comes with a plug-in for Photoshop which is the way I use it. >> Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >> limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > It comes with a plug-in for Photoshop which is the way I use it. Okay, thanks, are you using the pro plus version? So, you open a RAW file in PS and do your stuff, then convert to a TIFF and use Neat Image? Steve >>> Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >>> limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Steve I use it from within Photoshop. The plug-in shows up under Filters. Yes, I use v5 Pro. R. > Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty > limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from respected > people, what's his name, for instance, from Luminous Landscape : ) > > I'm having trouble getting the demo to open my D200 NEF files. Does any > bobody know if the demo can even do this? Does it just do JPEG's? The Photoshop plug-in works fine on D200 images. Never bothered with the stand-alone version. >> Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >> limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from respected [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >The Photoshop plug-in works fine on D200 images. Never bothered with >the stand-alone version. Ditto. The stand-alone may suit people who have large batches of JPEGs to process, but I usually find that some individual fine-tuning pays dividends in the final result so I don't use batch mode. The Photoshop plugin is much more convenient and does everything the stand-alone does - except batch of course. SignatureJohn Bean > Ditto. The stand-alone may suit people who have large > batches of JPEGs to process, but I usually find that some > individual fine-tuning pays dividends in the final result so > I don't use batch mode. The Photoshop plugin is much more > convenient and does everything the stand-alone does - except > batch of course. I went the Noise Ninja route instead of Neat Image, but I'd be surprised if you can't put a Neat Image call into a Photoshop action, which would allow you to use it as part of a batch command. You certainly can with Noise Ninja (I let it autodetect the profile, use the default settings, and then perform an Undo Fade to 80%, which gets a better balance between detail and noise reduction, as the opener on my "Basic Adjustments" action). This also lets you batch from RAW. SignatureZed Pobre <zed@resonant.org> a.k.a. Zed Pobre <zed@debian.org> PGP key and fingerprint available on finger; encrypted mail welcomed. >> Ditto. The stand-alone may suit people who have large >> batches of JPEGs to process, but I usually find that some [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >a better balance between detail and noise reduction, as the opener on >my "Basic Adjustments" action). This also lets you batch from RAW. Sure, of course you can batch it in a a PS action. But that's a feature of the host program rather than the plugin - Photoshop in this case. You could be using a host other than Photoshop that doesn't have actions, so the NI plugin wouldn't allow batching... but the stand-alone NI program would. When you're running a plugin you have to keep it clear in your mind which bits are being done by the host and which bits by the plugin. SignatureJohn Bean > Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty > limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from respected [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Steve I use the downloaded version on occasion, mostly on scanned negatives and I am quite pleases with the results. I also am trying PSP X and and so far am quite impressed with its built in noise reduction filters, you may want to give it a boo' hth I am using the Pro+ version and I'm pretty happy with it. I almost always use it in automatic mode (except that I choose the noise selection area) and never (yet) bothered to use the myriad of controls to fine-tune the result. I use both the plugin from within Corel Photopaint (which supports every format that PhotoPaint supports) as well as from within ThumbsPlus, my image database, as an external helper application for quick one-offs that don't require any other tweaking. As a stand-alone program, it only supports uncompressed TIFs, compression needs the LZV algorithm, for which they don't want to (make you) pay royalty. This is an affordable solution with excellent output for the money. I'm sure there are more advanced, more professional (and much more expensive) options out there, but this does the trick for me. AW > Pros and Cons? I'm playing with the free demo now, but it's pretty >limited. The pro version comes with some good recommendations from respected [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Steve |
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