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Looking for  battery suggestion on Pentax K100D

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Bret Cohen - 01 Sep 2006 21:04 GMT
Hi all:

What is the best battery recommendation for the Pentax K100D DSLR?

I've been told to NOT get the RECHARGEABLE CRV3's as that they may cause
damage.

Feedback, suggestions.
Comments on choice of camera?

Thanks

Bret
Paul Mitchum - 01 Sep 2006 21:38 GMT
> Hi all:
>
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> Feedback, suggestions.
> Comments on choice of camera?

I end up near an Ikea on my day-to-day, and they have AA batteries for
an incredibly cheap price. I get a handful of those packets to keep
around for when other batteries start to fail.

I get the CRV3s because I have an *ist DS, and the DS has trouble
figuring out whether AAs are dead or not when they're low, requiring an
on-off-on power cycle. Very annoying. This might have changed in the
K1x0D line.

How and why would rechargeable CRV3s damage a camera?
Bret Cohen - 01 Sep 2006 21:43 GMT
According to Pentax, there is the possibility that when the power drops, it
can damage the electronics.

>> Hi all:
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>
> How and why would rechargeable CRV3s damage a camera?
John Francis - 01 Sep 2006 22:21 GMT
That's incorrect.   It's nothing to do with the power level.
(Well, except the battery does need to be charged, or course.)
Some of the early rechargeable CRV3s are not voltage regulated,
and so can deliver a higher voltage than the camera can handle.
Apparently later models of the rechargeable CRV3s don't have
this problem, but unless you're absolutely certain it's best
not to risk frying your camera.

I use rechargeable NiMH cells in mine, but it's a lot easier
just to use regular CRV3s (or Lithium AAs) if you have a cheap
source; they have a shelf life of around ten years, are quite
lightweight, and last for large numbers of exposures.
According to some of my friends who use them the auto-focus
speed of the camera is improved by using Lithium cells.

>According to Pentax, there is the possibility that when the power drops, it
>can damage the electronics.
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>> How and why would rechargeable CRV3s damage a camera?
Pete D - 02 Sep 2006 03:01 GMT
> That's incorrect.   It's nothing to do with the power level.
> (Well, except the battery does need to be charged, or course.)
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> According to some of my friends who use them the auto-focus
> speed of the camera is improved by using Lithium cells.

The testing I did with my DS did not show any difference in AF, I was hoping
that it would be faster. I have five or so sets of NiMh that I keep in sets,
they last for around 400 shots, I also have a set of CR-V3's in the bag but
have never had to use them. The 2500mh NiMh's are cheap and with a fast
charger that does each cell individually I have never had a problem.

Like the look of the K100D but am waiting for the K10D to come out before I
will buy again.
Bret Cohen - 04 Sep 2006 19:47 GMT
Thanks for all of the info.

BTW

Do they make lithium Ion AA batteries or just stick with the NiMH

>> That's incorrect.   It's nothing to do with the power level.
>> (Well, except the battery does need to be charged, or course.)
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> Like the look of the K100D but am waiting for the K10D to come out before
> I will buy again.
Marc Sabatella - 04 Sep 2006 23:09 GMT
> Do they make lithium Ion AA batteries or just stick with the NiMH

No Li-ion that I've heard of.  It could be worth considering the new
Sanyo "eneloop" batteries, which are still NiMH but have MUCH less
self-discharge.  The jury is still out on how well they work in
practice - you give up some capacity in exchange for that lower
self-discharge.

A set of NiMH's can in theory give you several hundred shots per charge,
but you can be disappointed if you expect that to last you several
weeks, because of self-discharge with standard NiMH's.  I make it a
point to recharge once a week whether I've shot much that week or not,
and also charge at the end of any day where I've shot more than, say,
50-100 images.  I carry the CRV3's that came with the camera as backup
should my rechargeables give out during a day of shoot.  I've only had
to resort to them maybe 3-4 times in over a year (during which I've shot
around 10,000 images), so they should still have hundreds of shots left
in them.

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John Francis - 04 Sep 2006 23:58 GMT
>> Do they make lithium Ion AA batteries or just stick with the NiMH
>
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>around 10,000 images), so they should still have hundreds of shots left
>in them.

That's pretty much my strategy - I'll recharge before a day of shooting
unless the batteries are recently charged.  I have a *ist-D with the
battery grip, and I've yet to exhaust a fully-charged set of 8 2500mAh
cells in a single day of shooting, so carrying the original CRV3s as
well as an 8 additional NiMH cells is more than I anticipate needing.
One thing I have noticed, though, is that the (Energiser) 2500mAh cells
don't hold their charge as long as my previous (RayOVac) 1800mAh batteries.
With the RayOVacs I could pick up the camera and use it after it had sat
around on the shelf for a month.  I can't do that with the Energisers.
GlynM - 03 Sep 2006 20:27 GMT
> How and why would rechargeable CRV3s damage a camera?

Its a voltage thing. A recently charged Li-on rechargeable CRV3 has a
on-load voltage of around 4.2 volts. Some manufactures reduce this with a
diode taking the voltage down to around 3.4v. A pair of these would be at
6.8v which I believe is right on the limit for a Pentax DSLR. In use the
voltage quickly drops and the dioded rechargeable CRV3s spend most of the
time at about 3V but its the initial voltage that can cause the damage.

Glyn
Paul Mitchum - 04 Sep 2006 20:42 GMT
> > How and why would rechargeable CRV3s damage a camera?
>
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> voltage quickly drops and the dioded rechargeable CRV3s spend most of the
> time at about 3V but its the initial voltage that can cause the damage.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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