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Wide angle IS makes sense...

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Mark² - 31 Aug 2006 10:04 GMT
The question of IS/VR usefulness still seems to come up a lot.  -Especially
questions about why anyone would care to have IS at wide angle.  Here's an
example of a room that was VERY dimly lit (despite the brighter look due to
purposeful exposure).  This is hand-held at 24mm (REAL 24mm, shot on the
full frame 5D) at f5.6 and 1/10th second, using the 24-105 f4 IS:

http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/66057618/original

For interiors where you don't want a nasty blast of flash, or in places
where tripods & flash are forbidden, you really do benefit.  This would be a
completely usable shot.  This isn't an extreme example, but it is well
beyond the typical hand-held "guidelines..."

I really should try it even slower just for kicks, but this was the shot I
took because it was the aperture I wanted.

BTW--This is the spot I'm sitting in as I type this...
:)
-Mark²

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John McWilliams - 31 Aug 2006 16:25 GMT
> The question of IS/VR usefulness still seems to come up a lot.  -Especially
> questions about why anyone would care to have IS at wide angle.  Here's an
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> completely usable shot.  This isn't an extreme example, but it is well
> beyond the typical hand-held "guidelines..."

Wasn't a rather similar (exact duplicate!) posted in another photo group??

Shame!

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Mick Harris - 01 Sep 2006 11:07 GMT
>> The question of IS/VR usefulness still seems to come up a
>> ot.  -Especially questions about why anyone would care to have IS at wide
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>
> Shame!

"Shame" Why ?
Different newsgroup = different people = different feedback  :-) what's so
shamefull about that?
PS. Nice printer by the way Mark², is it A3 or larger?

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Joan - 01 Sep 2006 11:22 GMT
Mark explained it in the other group.  It's an Epson 4000 A2 printer.

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: PS. Nice printer by the way Mark², is it A3 or larger?
Mick Harris - 03 Sep 2006 11:19 GMT
> Mark explained it in the other group.  It's an Epson 4000 A2 printer.
>
> : PS. Nice printer by the way Mark², is it A3 or larger?

Thanks Joan, I didn't see the other NG.
I have been thinking of getting an A3 printer for a while now, but I think I
have just changed my mind :-)
I never realised A2 printers existed until now. Damn it, more expense!  :-)
Cheers
Mick
Mark² - 03 Sep 2006 12:02 GMT
>> Mark explained it in the other group.  It's an Epson 4000 A2 printer.
>>
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> expense!  :-) Cheers
> Mick

They get a lot bigger than that!
Epson's 9800 prints 44 inches wide (about 116cm), and as long as you want.
My 4000 prints 17 inches wide and long as you like...  To the right of me
sits a panorama print that's about 44 inches long and 17" tall...of this
shot:  http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/36134121/original

-Mark²

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Mick Harris - 03 Sep 2006 13:26 GMT
>>> Mark explained it in the other group.  It's an Epson 4000 A2 printer.
>>>
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>
> -Mark²

Wow! 44 inch, I think that might be pushing it a bit though, my desk is only
29 inch ;-)
17 inch would be ideal for me, as a framed A3 print is just a little smaller
than I would prefer.
That's a very nice landscape of Haleakala, lovely colours etc. I can imagine
that the Panoramic version looks great.
I printed out a panorama of Ryde seafront (Isle of Wight) on my A4 printer a
few days ago, just to see what it looked like printed, but I had to print it
on separate sheets of paper and tape them together, which spoils the effect
a bit, but it still looks ok considering.
It turned out 7 A4 sheets wide (10in high 49in wide) but I would love to see
it 17in high and um very wide lol :-)
ATB
Mick
John McWilliams - 02 Sep 2006 02:40 GMT
>>> The question of IS/VR usefulness still seems to come up a
>>> ot.  -Especi"
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> Different newsgroup = different people = different feedback  :-) what's so
> shamefull about that?

It's customary to cross post to closely related groups so that those of
us who participate in multiple NG's don't have to read repetitive posts.
It also allows wider participation, as the readership isn't one for one
the same.

The word "shame" is way over doing it, but I think Mark squared would
guffaw; that was the intention, anyway.

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Bill - 02 Sep 2006 03:32 GMT
>The word "shame" is way over doing it, but I think Mark squared would
>guffaw; that was the intention, anyway.

Ok that's it!

I've had enough!

Stop using fancy words like "guffaw" that people don't understand!

Geezes...some people are so insensitive!

Heh!

OOTC - I like photography.

:-)
John McWilliams - 02 Sep 2006 05:05 GMT
>> The word "shame" is way over doing it, but I think Mark squared would
>> guffaw; that was the intention, anyway.
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>
> OOTC - I like photography.

yasss. me, too. </unbridled flatulence>.

Wish I could think of summit funny ta say.....

Goodnight, Gracie.

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Mark² - 02 Sep 2006 10:04 GMT
>>>> The question of IS/VR usefulness still seems to come up a
>>>> ot.  -Especi"
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> The word "shame" is way over doing it, but I think Mark squared would
> guffaw; that was the intention, anyway.

If you cross-post (as in posting with multiple NGs in the "to" line), people
often miss it entirely due to screen of cross-posts as a means of defeating
trolls.  I participate in 3 photo NGs, so I see no reason why I should
choose only one...or two.  You can't please everyone...  "Shame"?  None
here! ;)

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