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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2006

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The new Canon 50mm f/1.2L lens question

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default - 30 Aug 2006 07:23 GMT
Is the new 50mm f/1.2L lens actually f/1.26, ie 1/3 stop faster than f/1.4
or is it f/1.19, ie 1/2 stop faster than f/1.4?

It looks like it might be almost as expensive as a used 50mm F/1.0L which is
a full stop faster than the f/1.4.
w.beckley@gmail.com - 30 Aug 2006 07:27 GMT
> Is the new 50mm f/1.2L lens actually f/1.26, ie 1/3 stop faster than f/1.4
> or is it f/1.19, ie 1/2 stop faster than f/1.4?
>
> It looks like it might be almost as expensive as a used 50mm F/1.0L which is
> a full stop faster than the f/1.4.

Given that the human eye can't really detect differences smaller than
1/3 of a stop, I think that the possible 1/6 stop difference you
question is pretty insignificant either way.

The 1.0L was also a notoriously lousy performer, and the new lens is
supposedly significantly better in that regard.

Will
default - 30 Aug 2006 07:53 GMT
> Given that the human eye can't really detect differences smaller than
> 1/3 of a stop, I think that the possible 1/6 stop difference you
> question is pretty insignificant either way.

and 16% more or less shutter speed isn't normally going to save a picture
either, but 1/6 stop is almost another 1/8" of very expensive clear aperture
given that the glass usage probably goes up roughly with the cube of the
diameter.  Not a question of usefulness as much as getting your money's
worth on glass or are they going to try sell it as f/1.2 and let many people
think they are getting 1/2 stop faster but really only deliver 1/3 stop and
save a bunch of cost.

> The 1.0L was also a notoriously lousy performer, and the new lens is
> supposedly significantly better in that regard.

I have heard that it wasn't great although the Canon MTF charts and
literature for it suggested it was a good lens.
David Littlewood - 30 Aug 2006 11:09 GMT
>Is the new 50mm f/1.2L lens actually f/1.26, ie 1/3 stop faster than f/1.4
>or is it f/1.19, ie 1/2 stop faster than f/1.4?
>
>It looks like it might be almost as expensive as a used 50mm F/1.0L which is
>a full stop faster than the f/1.4.

What makes you think it must be some simple fraction of an f-stop?
There's no reason why a lens should not be f/1.2, f/1.21, or f/1.1905;
modern metering and shutter speed controls can easily cope with such
non-integral parameters.

David
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John A. Stovall - 30 Aug 2006 12:40 GMT
>Is the new 50mm f/1.2L lens actually f/1.26, ie 1/3 stop faster than f/1.4
>or is it f/1.19, ie 1/2 stop faster than f/1.4?
>
>It looks like it might be almost as expensive as a used 50mm F/1.0L which is
>a full stop faster than the f/1.4.

You haven't bought a used f/1.0 lately.  If you can get one for double
the 1600 dollar price Canon's is asking for the 1.2L you got a super
deal.   I know I just bought one in perfect condition for a low light
project.
AaronW - 07 Sep 2006 16:45 GMT
> Is the new 50mm f/1.2L lens actually f/1.26, ie 1/3 stop faster than f/1.4
> or is it f/1.19, ie 1/2 stop faster than f/1.4?

The camera shows 1/3 stops as: f/1.0, f/1.1, f/1.2, f/1.4, f/1.6,
f/1.8, f/2.0, ...

http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr
Doug McDonald - 07 Sep 2006 18:12 GMT
>> Is the new 50mm f/1.2L lens actually f/1.26, ie 1/3 stop faster than f/1.4
>> or is it f/1.19, ie 1/2 stop faster than f/1.4?

These ultrafast lenses vignette so badly that it hardly matters!

Doug McDonald
 
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