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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / August 2006(August, 21st) Picture of the Week
Hello All, I would like to present you the picture of the week. In square and b&w. http://www.monochromatique.com/photosemaine/ Thanks for your visit, -- <> Daniel Rocha | Photographie <> http://www.monochromatique.com > I would like to present you the picture of the week. > In square and b&w. Your relentless stream of crap photos shows no sign of drying up, does it? Just what is this effort supposed to be? Apart from a cluttered mess? >> I would like to present you the picture of the week. >> In square and b&w. > > Your relentless stream of crap photos shows no sign of drying up, does it? > Just what is this effort supposed to be? Apart from a cluttered mess? Perhaps you should point to some good examples of yours that he could study? We could all gain from your posts then! >>> I would like to present you the picture of the week. >>> In square and b&w. >> Your relentless stream of crap photos shows no sign of drying up, does it? >> Just what is this effort supposed to be? Apart from a cluttered mess? >Perhaps you should point to some good examples of yours that he could study? >We could all gain from your posts then! Come on Pete, that's a nonsense argument and I'm sure you know it. It's the one and only tired and trite string that Rocha's had to his bow in aus.photo for months now, and the poor thing's looking decidedly worn out. If you take it to its (il)logical conclusion, then: - No one could criticise a building unless they were an architect who had designed one themselves; - No one could criticise a book, no matter how tedious and self-indulgent the characters and plot (hmm, particularly relevant to Le Rocha, this analogy), unless they'd written one themseves; - No one could criticise a heart surgon for leaving a scalpel inside a patient unless they themselves could perform heart surgery, - and so on, and so forth, and such like. Derek's fully entitled to state his view, with or without producing any of his own shots, whether they be good, bad or indifferent. You don't HAVE to have produced a good photo yourself to know a bad one. (Clarification; I don't regard this week's one as being "crap"; indeed I don't regard it as being much of anything, which is true of the vast majority of his work IMHO. But that's neither here nor there. That's my opinion, Derek has his opinion, and you're entitled to yours.) >>>> I would like to present you the picture of the week. >>>> In square and b&w. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > majority of his work IMHO. But that's neither here nor there. That's > my opinion, Derek has his opinion, and you're entitled to yours.) Yes mostly they are ordinary at best but if everyone ignored him the world would be a better place I am sure. I should keep my own council more often perhaps? >Yes mostly they are ordinary at best but if everyone ignored him the world >would be a better place I am sure. I should keep my own council more often >perhaps? Hey, what you think is what you think, and you're as entitled to say it as anyone else. For the most part I've stopped commenting on his photos in aus.photo (although admittedly I've just now replied to a rather ludicrous post in the latest thread over there) for that reason; I've said about all I have to say about them here as well now, so it's unlikely that I'll be saying anything further on the subject either. Not impossible, but unlikely. I'm actually considering killfiling him as well, but unfortunately I can't kill an entire thread that he starts, so... > Perhaps you should point to some good examples of yours that he could study? > We could all gain from your posts then! I could, but I don't present my work in a fashion that suggests I think it's any good and that it might make any particular viewer's day. Feel free to look at my photos (from the link below) if you like, but I don't ask for critique or even web hits. I'm not that self absorbed. Rocha is, as someone else put it, an attention-aholic. He posts his "picture of the week" relentlessly over many different forums and has done for months, maybe years, now. Since he's putting his work forward for viewing, I feel entirely justified in giving my opinion of it. And my opinion is that it's alway the same, and always bloody awful.  Signature<a href="http://www.derekfountain.org/">Derek Fountain</a> on the web at http://www.derekfountain.org/ >> Perhaps you should point to some good examples of yours that he could >> study? We could all gain from your posts then! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > viewing, I feel entirely justified in giving my opinion of it. And my > opinion is that it's alway the same, and always bloody awful. Mostly I think you are right Derek, I guess I am just a bit more sick of the idiots that have hammered him over the last couple of weeks, this was a much nicer group when everyone mostly just ignored Daniel. > Mostly I think you are right Derek, I guess I am just a bit more sick of the > idiots that have hammered him over the last couple of weeks, this was a much > nicer group when everyone mostly just ignored Daniel. I think the groups are much nicer when people talk about photography equipment and critique images. We all participate and we all have the chance to learn something. People who are continually shouting "look at me! look at me!" are distracting noise. When the quality of what they have to display is as consistently poor as Rocha's work, their contribution to the group is basically negative - they're "takers" not contributors. Signature<a href="http://www.derekfountain.org/">Derek Fountain</a> on the web at http://www.derekfountain.org/ SNIP > I think the groups are much nicer when people talk about photography > equipment and critique images. We all participate and we all have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > their contribution to the group is basically negative - they're > "takers" not contributors. Hear, hear. Especially in a group discussing about SLR.SYSTEMS. SignatureBart ||| I would like to present you the picture of the week. ||| In square and b&w. || || Your relentless stream of crap photos shows no sign of drying || up, does it? Just what is this effort supposed to be? Apart || from a cluttered mess? Where are your photos? Maybe you should put them up so we can all see how it is done. BJ Signature"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is impossible." -- Jack Vance http://www.obsessionthemovie.com http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/isacrime.html http://home.swbell.net/bjtexas/SS/ ||| I would like to present you the picture of the week. ||| In square and b&w. || || Your relentless stream of crap photos shows no sign of drying || up, does it? Just what is this effort supposed to be? Apart || from a cluttered mess? Idiot.... SignatureIt's a place to listen and read for a while, called lurking. Get an idea of the tone of the community. Learn who the trolls and troublemakers are and ignore them. >> I would like to present you the picture of the week. >> In square and b&w. > > Your relentless stream of crap photos shows no sign of drying up, does > it? Just what is this effort supposed to be? Apart from a cluttered mess? I don't understand all this abuse. Is it wrong to ask for critical evaluation of photos here? Or just wrong to expect any valid critique from members here? I come and go on this forum a bit so I don't know: Is the poster a known for abuse and trolling? Doesn't look like it. His photos, for the most part, seem technically well done. He shows a great deal of experimentation. Some of his subjects are interesting. Nothing there that deserves any of the useless comments made so far. Randy. > Hello All, > > I would like to present you the picture of the week. > In square and b&w. SNIP Here we are, August 25th, and you *again* feel the uncontrollable urge to (re-)post a message from earlier in the week. Why??? SignatureBart >> Hello All, >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > urge > to (re-)post a message from earlier in the week. Why??? I'll bet it springs from the same fount as any post here: he has something to say and wants others to see or hear. SignatureFrank ess "All of philosophy consists of unlocking, exhuming, and recanting what's been said before, and then getting riled up about it." —V.S. Ramachandran— SNIP > I'll bet it springs from the same fount as any post here: he has > something to say and wants others to see or hear. I don't deny him his platform, it's just that announcing his "image of the week" several times per week, every week, is overkill. SignatureBart > I don't deny him his platform, it's just that announcing his "image of the > week" several times per week, every week, is overkill. I'm no fan of him or his work, by any means, but in this case I have to spring to his defence and say that I don't believe he's ever posted more than one work of art a week. Indeed, his previous masterpiece of the week was posted on July 31th [sic], and we are fortunate that it appears that he has exposed himself rather less than weekly of late. (Including rec.photo.digital) > > I don't deny him his platform, it's just that announcing his "image of the > > week" several times per week, every week, is overkill. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > has exposed himself rather less than weekly of late. (Including > rec.photo.digital) I'm grateful he hasn't exposed himself at all. I think you can get arrested for that, even in France. SignatureBill in Lake Charles >> I don't deny him his platform, it's just that announcing his "image of the >> week" several times per week, every week, is overkill. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >has exposed himself rather less than weekly of late. (Including >rec.photo.digital) Yeeesss, well, I wouldn't get too used to that if I were you. He stopped posting here between April, when you nailed his butt to the wall for one of his "works of art" in a rather spectacular fashion, if I may say, and the end of July. In other groups (notably aus.photo, but there are others) he makes a weekly appearance, week in and week out. And once he decides to (re)introduce himself to a group, he's rather like a cockroach infestation; somewhat difficult to eliminate. You can probably expect him to appear in this group once per week from now on to help feed his attention-holicism. It's possible that Bart was thinking of the posts that he's made in other groups as mentioned above. My issue with that, as I've stated in aus.photo, is that you can imagine what would happen to the signal to junk ratio if EVERY amateur who posts photos to a web site announced the fact in multiple newsgroups every time they did so. I visualise a slightly lumpy, brownish coloured sludge covering the news feeds. Of course none of this matters to him, because HIS photo of the week is "spe-shul", don'cha know. > It's possible that Bart was thinking of the posts that he's made in > other groups as mentioned above. My issue with that, as I've stated in > aus.photo, is that you can imagine what would happen to the signal to > junk ratio if EVERY amateur who posts photos to a web site announced > the fact in multiple newsgroups every time they did so. I've made that very point somewhere in the past - thank god that not everybody who manages to depress the shutter feels the need to publish the result worldwide! >> aus.photo, is that you can imagine what would happen to the signal to >> junk ratio if EVERY amateur who posts photos to a web site announced [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >everybody who manages to depress the shutter feels the need to publish the >result worldwide! You're welcome! :-) SNIP > It's possible that Bart was thinking of the posts that he's made in > other groups as mentioned above. Yes, that's correct. Here's the result for August: <http://groups.google.com/groups?q=photosemaine+insubject%3AAugust+author%3ARocha &start=0&scoring=d&filter=0> Excessive is an understatement. SignatureBart > Yes, that's correct. Here's the result for August: > <http://groups.google.com/groups?q=photosemaine+insubject%3AAugust+author%3ARocha &start=0&scoring=d&filter=0> > > Excessive is an understatement. Wow. He has obsessive-compulsive disorder. > we are fortunate that it appears that he > has exposed himself rather less than weekly of late. (Including > rec.photo.digital) You might be right. He posted to rec.photo.digital on the 14th August, 2nd August, 31st July, 24th July, 3rd July, 26th June, 19th June, 12th June, and 5th June. The rate of the bilge does seem to be slowing. Signature<a href="http://www.derekfountain.org/">Derek Fountain</a> on the web at http://www.derekfountain.org/ > >> Hello All, > >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > and then getting riled up about it." > -V.S. Ramachandran- I actually liked this one. The gentleman has cojones. Or, he's a masochist. Oh well, he is French, that does say a lot. SignatureGuiilaume en le Lac du Charles |
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