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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2006Off-topic Ilford paper
I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the question for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality and price of Ilford paper. Sam's club has Ilford gloss, 100 sheets 8.5 x 11 (very slightly lighter weight than the top line 250gsm)for $23.78 and the same price for the smooth pearl. The smooth pearl is available online only, so about $7 more for shipping. I have a Canon Pixma 6000D and refill the cartridges for less than $.50 a refill. I believe my 8.5 x 11's cost me less than $.40/each. Also if you cut the 8.5 x 11 sheets in half (5.5 x 8.5) it scales with almost no cropping (at least for my Nikon D70), less than $.20 print. Sorry about the off topic, but I hope this is of help to somebody. Dave > I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the > question for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > almost no cropping (at least for my Nikon D70), less than $.20 print. > Sorry about the off topic, but I hope this is of help to somebody. Dave Professionals use inkjets and use Ilford papers too. Ilford make professional wide format roll papers and pre-mounts - as well as the Galerie pre-cut sheets. Canon Pixma 6000d prints on smooth pearl paper will fade very fast with OEM ink - and *probably* even much faster with third party inks. They should last longer on classic pearl - which should cost you about the same as smooth pearl. > I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the > question for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > almost no cropping (at least for my Nikon D70), less than $.20 print. > Sorry about the off topic, but I hope this is of help to somebody. Dave Most Ilford paper is designed for pigmented ink, only the Iford Classic is mde for dye based ink from your Canon printer. Dye based inks fade very quickly on the standard Ilford paper. If you can get the Classic paper it works much better with dyes. Classicis only available in sheets. Tom >> I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the >> question for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tom Is this still the cae for the new Canon Chroma 100 inks? I have a 5200R and have used both Smooth and Classic Pearl using the Ilford profiles, the prints look fabulous by the way. >>> I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the >>> question for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > have used both Smooth and Classic Pearl using the Ilford profiles, the > prints look fabulous by the way. Yes. The Chromalife 100 inks longevity ratings are based on use with swellable-polymer papers like the Ilford "Classic" range. But of course the Chromalife 100 tests sere on Canon papers, so you have to only assume that it might perform similarly well on non OEM paper of the same type. Everyone, thanks for the additional information, NG's are a wealth of information. I probably would have sold my D70 if it weren't for this group. >>>> I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the >>>> question for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > assume that it might perform similarly well on non OEM paper of the same > type. Should I obtain lasting prints from the Epson R800 with it's "UltraChrome high-gloss pigment ink" and the Ilford gloss paper? I kust bought the 100 pack last weekend and have printed 1 pic so far. I was going to order the smooth pearl after seeing that it is available on line, but am now worried about compatibility. Thanks, Mike >>>> I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the >>>> question for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > the Chromalife 100 tests sere on Canon papers, so you have to only assume > that it might perform similarly well on non OEM paper of the same type. > Should I obtain lasting prints from the Epson R800 with it's "UltraChrome > high-gloss pigment ink" and the Ilford gloss paper? I kust bought the 100 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks, > Mike The Smooth Gloss (not Classic Gloss) *should* offer good longevity with the Ultrachrome inks. *Probably* similar to Epson Premium Glossy Photo Paper - but not AFAIK not tested by Wilhelm or anyone else using their more or less standard methodology. One thing I expect (but don't know) with the Ilford papers is that as they seem bright, I expect that they have Optical Brightener in them. They seem brighter than the equivalent Epson papers, so perhaps they have more OB. Optical Brighteners "fade" (lose fluorescence) over time. As they fluoresce with a blue-ish white light, then when they "fade" the paper appears to have yellowed under light sources that contain UV - natural light . That effect is particularly noticeable with the very bright matte papers like Epson's Archival Matte (sold as "Enhanced" matte in some markets. Paper yellowing (as opposed to the above effect) is tested by Wilhelm in their permanence rating tests. Not off topic at all and thanks. I was just about to order some Smooth Pearl at 3 times the price! I use it a lot for hextone B&W as well as color. > I know this is off topic and printing on an inkjet is out of the question > for the professionals, HOWEVER, I am excited about the quality and price of > Ilford paper. Sam's club has Ilford gloss, 100 sheets 8.5 x 11 (very slightly > lighter weight than the top line 250gsm)for $23.78 and the same price for the > smooth pearl. The smooth pearl is available online only, so about $7 more for > shipping. Note, the Ilford paper at Sam's club seems to be thiner than you get elsewhere, and presumably may have some other differences as well. Also, if you are printing with a dye printer (like your Canon), the smooth paper does not have the long life characteristics of the classic papers, but on the other hand, it is an instant dry paper, and won't be ruined by water.  SignatureMichael Meissner email: mrmnews@the-meissners.org http://www.the-meissners.org |
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