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Bruce - 21 Aug 2006 23:27 GMT
I've got Photoshop 6 & Nikon D70. I can't find the Adobe plugin that will
work with Photoshop 6 ,is there a way of doing this.

Would I be better getting Photoshop Elements (but I need one to work in
Windows 2000) or is Photoshop 6 still  a better option.

Thanks Bruce
G.T. - 21 Aug 2006 23:47 GMT
> I've got Photoshop 6 & Nikon D70. I can't find the Adobe plugin that will
> work with Photoshop 6 ,is there a way of doing this.

I thought someone mentioned that the D70 comes with a plugin for PS 6 for
NEF conversion?

> Would I be better getting Photoshop Elements (but I need one to work in
> Windows 2000) or is Photoshop 6 still  a better option.

I still use PS 6 at work because we have a site license and we don't need
many features, and I used Elements 3 at home before I switched to CS.  I'd
take Elements 3 or 4 over PS 6 any day.

Greg
Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 22 Aug 2006 01:41 GMT
>> I've got Photoshop 6 & Nikon D70. I can't find the Adobe plugin that will
>> work with Photoshop 6 ,is there a way of doing this.
>
>I thought someone mentioned that the D70 comes with a plugin for PS 6 for
>NEF conversion?

Yes, if you either install the copy of PictureProject that comes bundled or
grab the appropriate plugin manually off the CD. Id does however provide
the most basic of adjustments, which one might question why shoot raw in
the first place.

>> Would I be better getting Photoshop Elements (but I need one to work in
>> Windows 2000) or is Photoshop 6 still  a better option.

Then, iirc you need PSE3 as I believe PSE4 requires XP.

>I still use PS 6 at work because we have a site license and we don't need
>many features, and I used Elements 3 at home before I switched to CS.  I'd
>take Elements 3 or 4 over PS 6 any day.

As someone else suggested there is also the avenue of getting the free
Adobe DNG converter to convert the NEFs to DNG which the add-on raw
converter sold for PS6 should open. If you didn't buy this raw plugin
before, then this probably isn't the best path.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 22 Aug 2006 02:01 GMT
Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:

> As someone else suggested there is also the avenue of getting the free
> Adobe DNG converter to convert the NEFs to DNG which the add-on raw
> converter sold for PS6 should open. If you didn't buy this raw plugin
> before, then this probably isn't the best path.

Using the DNG converter sucks.  It's more time and labor consuming than it
is worth.  I fought with it for a few days and just bit the bullet and
upgraded to CS2.  Do it right the first time since what you save initially
in money is lost on time and productivity.

Rita
G.T. - 22 Aug 2006 02:38 GMT
> Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
>
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> Using the DNG converter sucks.  It's more time and labor consuming than it
> is worth.

Time, maybe, but hardly labor consuming.  Just set and rip.

Greg
Little Green Eyed Dragon - 22 Aug 2006 03:20 GMT
> Using the DNG converter sucks.  It's more time and labor consuming than it
> is worth.  I fought with it for a few days and just bit the bullet and
> upgraded to CS2.  Do it right the first time since what you save initially
> in money is lost on time and productivity.
> Rita

& Thats the whole shabang,.... how much time spent.
= less time breathing fresh air and taking pics.

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Barry Pearson - 22 Aug 2006 07:44 GMT
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> As someone else suggested there is also the avenue of getting the free
> Adobe DNG converter to convert the NEFs to DNG which the add-on raw
> converter sold for PS6 should open. If you didn't buy this raw plugin
> before, then this probably isn't the best path.

Adobe never provided a raw converter for PS 6. (They started with PS
7). I don't know if anyone else sold one.

The first Adobe raw converter for Photoshop that supported DNG was ACR
2.3, which worked with PS CS only.

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cjcampbell - 22 Aug 2006 10:18 GMT
> I've got Photoshop 6 & Nikon D70. I can't find the Adobe plugin that will
> work with Photoshop 6 ,is there a way of doing this.

The free plug-in comes with PictureProject, which came with the D70. If
you no longer have the disk, you can download it from Nikon's website.
Bill - 22 Aug 2006 13:20 GMT
>I've got Photoshop 6 & Nikon D70. I can't find the Adobe plugin that will
>work with Photoshop 6 ,is there a way of doing this.

A few people have asked for this, so if you don't want to install Nikon
PictureProject or Nikon View, just click this link to get the RAW plugin
by itself (240kb):

http://home.golden.net/~bfksc/nikon-nef-plugin.8bi

Save the plugin to your "...Photoshop\Plug-ins\File Formats" folder and
the next time you open an NEF in Photoshop you'll get simple RAW
adjustments, then it will open in Photoshop for normal editing.
Randy W. Sims - 22 Aug 2006 19:31 GMT
>> I've got Photoshop 6 & Nikon D70. I can't find the Adobe plugin that will
>> work with Photoshop 6 ,is there a way of doing this.
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> the next time you open an NEF in Photoshop you'll get simple RAW
> adjustments, then it will open in Photoshop for normal editing.

It may not be legal to redistribute the file without consent from Nikon
(I haven't read the license). Even though your intentions are good,
offering a convenient, unmodified download, I think I'd check with them
before continuing to offer it on your site to avoid any problems.

Randy.
tomm42 - 22 Aug 2006 14:23 GMT
> I've got Photoshop 6 & Nikon D70. I can't find the Adobe plugin that will
> work with Photoshop 6 ,is there a way of doing this.
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>
> Thanks Bruce

There is no RAW converter for PS6, anyway PS has come a very long way
since 6, PS7 was an eyeopener as is PSCS2 well worth the upgrade,
individually it is $160, don't know how big your sight license is.
There are quite a few enhancements that I use every day, not the least
being RAW converters, spot healing brush and smart sharpen being the
two I use most. Smart Sharpen is just much better than USM. Healing
brush takes data from points around the defect and makes a much better
spot eraticator than cloning, still some use for cloning and spots,
dust next to lines and big changes in color values. PS 6 is really just
an enhanced PS5.5, after PS7 I wouldn't go back. Yes it is bigger and
piggyeier than ever. PSCS2 works in Win 2000, the last one though.
RAW converters started as a external program with PS7 and became a plug
in with CS. I don't believe you can even get the original ACR anymore,
if you did it probably wouldn't handle the D70, too new.
You can get Nikon capture for $99, version 4.4 is still available.
CaptureNX the newest (which I don't think runs on Win 2000) is $150.
Many feel this program opens Nikon NEF files with the most accurate
color. RAW Shooter Essentials is free and still available, but probably
not for long as Adobe bought out the parent company.

Good luck
Tom
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 22 Aug 2006 22:12 GMT
> You can get Nikon capture for $99, version 4.4 is still
> available. CaptureNX the newest (which I don't think runs on Win
> 2000) is $150. Many feel this program opens Nikon NEF files with the
> most accurate color. RAW Shooter Essentials is free and still
> available, but probably not for long as Adobe bought out the parent
> company.

I would suggest he download the 30-trial version of Capture NX and give it a
good workout before he buys it.  Some people love it while others totally
hate it.  The biggest complaint I read is it is very slow.  If you can get
used to the user interface and develop a decent workflow you will be set.

Rita
frederick - 22 Aug 2006 22:59 GMT
>> You can get Nikon capture for $99, version 4.4 is still
>> available. CaptureNX the newest (which I don't think runs on Win
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> hate it.  The biggest complaint I read is it is very slow.  If you can get
> used to the user interface and develop a decent workflow you will be set.

"As it stands at the moment, Capture NX is a very good idea, poorly
executed."

Summary from an interesting short review by Dierk Haasis here:
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/talkshop/Nikon_NX/Nikon.htm

He notes the slowness - which was a serious problem for me on a fairly
basic PC - 2.4 Ghz / 1GB RAM. Apparently it runs ok on dual core CPU
machines with 2GB RAM.
 
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