> The SB-R200 Speedlights can be used as remotes only. They cannot even
> be mounted on a flash shoe without an adaptor. The kit includes
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> to like standard AA batteries, considering them to be too weak and
> having too short a life to be truly useful.
> > The SB-R200 Speedlights can be used as remotes only. They cannot even
> > be mounted on a flash shoe without an adaptor. The kit includes
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> How are the recycle times on the SB-R200s in real world applications? I've
> heard they are terribly slow.
I haven't noticed. The manual says 6 seconds, but with fresh batteries
it is faster than that. The ready light comes on in less than a second.
I am still at the set it up, take a shot or two, adjust the lighting or
move things, take another shot, etc., stage. I'll let you know if I
ever go after the local bats, a project I have been considering for
some time. (I know a fairly constricted area that the bats fly through
all the time -- set up a few flash units and wireless trip and I might
get lucky. Of course, it could make the bats really blind as, um,
bats.) But they seem to recycle fairly fast; faster than the SB-800
with four batteries. Of course, the SB-800 is not particularly fast
with only four batteries.
I do not think that the SB-R200 is really intended for fast action.
Although the Advanced Wireless Lighting system is capable of repeating
flash, the manual notes that the SB-R200 is not usable in that mode --
which should raise some red flags about the capability of this flash
for any fast action. Recycling speed could be a problem if you are
trying to get that fleeting expression on a model's face. That is not
something I would do regularly, but a pro would almost certainly find
it annoying.
But it gets worse.
I would think that the major limitation on the SB-R200 is that if you
trip off even four shots (at six frames per second) at 1/8 power you
have to let it cool for ten minutes. I suspect that some pros would
consider such a limitation grounds for immediate defenestration. Less
power and you can take more frames, but the fact remains that this
flash is not designed for rapid fire work. If you really need quick
recycling times, your best bet would be the SB-600 or SB-800 using
external power supplies and, if you want to use them as if they were
mounted on the lens, mounting brackets.
One way around that, I suppose, would be to use two groups of SB-R200s
and alternate between the two. It probably says volumes about this
flash that all the examples that Nikon gives with this flash are taken
with the D70 and all the example setups in the manual are also with the
D70. Sure, you could mount an SU-800 Commander on a D2xs and set up a
bunch of SB-R200s and start blasting away in high speed mode; you might
get three or four shots and then you are done for ten minutes.
FLASH-FLASH-FLASH. "Okay, break, everybody." "But we just had a break!"
"Another break, so shut up already." Nope, I don't see it working in an
environment like that.
I have a few corrections to what I posted earlier. It is the SU-800
commander, not the SU-80. And the Nikon D70's built-in flash cannot
control the SB-R200 and still contribute flash. The way you do it with
the SB-800 is that you use flash lock and TTL for the built-in flash.
The SB-800 has to be set to SU-4 mode, something I had forgotten. The
SB-R200 has no SU-4 mode. Also, the manual flash button is not that at
all; it turns on the target (focus assist) light.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 22 Aug 2006 01:55 GMT
>> How are the recycle times on the SB-R200s in real world
>> applications? I've heard they are terribly slow.
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> fast; faster than the SB-800 with four batteries. Of course, the
> SB-800 is not particularly fast with only four batteries.
Thanks for all the great info. I was excited about getting this flash when
Nikon announced it and lost most of that excitement when I read about the
recycle times. I was teetering on the fence on whether or not to buy it,
but seeing that it can get off a few consecutive shots don't sound too bad
for me. It is what it is and I don't expect it to compete with my SB800s.
My excitement is getting renewed. Thanks again.
Rita
> > The SB-R200 Speedlights can be used as remotes only. They cannot even
> > be mounted on a flash shoe without an adaptor. The kit includes
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>
> Rita
I've used them for 1:2 and 1: mags only. There is a problem using the
camera as the commander in these cases (D200). There isn't enough
compensation built into the camera (one stop) to cover the extra flash
you need for the magnification. So I've been using them on 1/16 and 1/8
power. This works fine and the recycle times are almost instant. There
is a shutter lag in camera operation due to the flash communication.
Tom
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 22 Aug 2006 01:56 GMT
> I've used them for 1:2 and 1: mags only. There is a problem using the
> camera as the commander in these cases (D200). There isn't enough
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> There is a shutter lag in camera operation due to the flash
> communication.
Thanks, I've been using a pair of SB800s and find them well suited for the
job of lighting, but the bulk is a killer. Seeing that the R1 kit need be
turned down is encouraging since it gives us a bit of leeway. I'll bet this
saves batteries? How is battery life with these things?
Rita