I have been shopping for Photoshop CS2 and on some seller sites it states
"Academic box. This is the same program as the retail box and is legal for
both commercial and educational use. "
Is this really the same version, and if so, why would anyone want to by the
retail version?
Knew some of you would know the answer to this.
Thanks!
Hunt - 19 Aug 2006 02:40 GMT
>I have been shopping for Photoshop CS2 and on some seller sites it states
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>Thanks!
I think that if you check out the specs at www.adobe.com, you will see that
there are two qualifications for the "academic" version - a registered
student, or credentialed teacher, and that the progam is NOT used for
commercial purposes.
Many generations ago, the academic versions did not offer the same upgrade
path, but I believe that that has since changed.
I'd suggest reading the license section closely and not rely on what some
seller is telling you.
Hunt
Eric Schreiber - 20 Aug 2006 05:23 GMT
> I think that if you check out the specs at www.adobe.com, you will
> see that there are two qualifications for the "academic" version - a
> registered student, or credentialed teacher, and that the progam is
> NOT used for commercial purposes.
Half correct.
http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/faq.html
"You can use Adobe Education software (any title!) to produce
commercial/professional paid-for work when you leave school, or even
while you are in school. In this regard, Adobe does not limit how
student software is used. So students can use it to learn and to make
money!"
The Adobe academic licensing is among the best I've ever seen, in terms
of not limiting what the student can do with it.

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dicktay - 19 Aug 2006 02:40 GMT
Academic versions may have reduced documentation, especially in paper form.
No (legally) commercial commercial use.
May be restricted upgrade path.
Not for general sale, only for (in theory) students.
This link (Adobe) may help
http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/qualify.html
Richard
>I have been shopping for Photoshop CS2 and on some seller sites it states
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> Thanks!
ilaab - 19 Aug 2006 04:48 GMT
> Academic versions may have reduced documentation, especially in paper
> form.
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>> Thanks!
I got the following e-mail from Adobe," As a valued Photoshop Elements
customer, you've seen how Adobe Photoshop Elements software helps improve
your images. And now for just $299USD, you can get all the power you ever
wanted with the full version of the new professional-grade Adobe Photoshop
CS2 - a savings of more than 50%!"
I believe this is a good deal but are there better ones available?
Ilaab
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> Ilaab
Depending on what you need, Paint Shop Pro X might be more than enough for
your needs; I know it was for me. And for only $79, it's hard to beat
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no_name - 20 Aug 2006 05:17 GMT
> I got the following e-mail from Adobe," As a valued Photoshop Elements
> customer, you've seen how Adobe Photoshop Elements software helps improve
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> Ilaab
Upgrade price for Photoshop is less, but looking at the box you have to
have a previous licensed version of the full product.

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bmoag - 19 Aug 2006 08:28 GMT
If it activates its yours to do with as you wish.
It is highly unlikely, but not impossible, that the upgrade version of CS3
will not recognize your academic version of CS2 and not install or activate
as an upgrade. Anyway, if you are eligible for one academic version you will
surely be able to get the next upgrade at the academic price. Adobe knows
that.
Every academic software package I have ever used, all legitimate, have been
fully functional and upgradeable but my versions of Photoshop were not
obtained as Academic packages.
The "not for commercial use" is meaningless twaddle and Adobe knows it.
Adobe has no way to police what you do with the software nor does it clearly
have an inherent right to do so regardless of what is posted on its web
site. The definition of "commercial" is too vague. A teacher earning money
instructing off that academic copy could be prosecuted for commercial use
of the software. There is no way to prove that an image has been altered
specifically with Photoshop although that the image has been processed can
be detected.
Can Microsoft restrict the use of its Student/Teacher version of Office to
use for term papers? Why would it want to?
Academic pricing is really a marketing tool to try to hook beginning users
on a specific product that they will continue with down the inevitable
upgrade path. Adobe knows this full well or it would not offer an Academic
package.
If one can legitimately obtain a copy of an earlier version of Photoshop,
and their are legal ways to do so, then one is eligible for the upgrade
priced package anyway.
no_name - 20 Aug 2006 05:19 GMT
> If it activates its yours to do with as you wish.
> It is highly unlikely, but not impossible, that the upgrade version of CS3
> will not recognize your academic version of CS2 and not install or activate
> as an upgrade. Anyway, if you are eligible for one academic version you will
> surely be able to get the next upgrade at the academic price. Adobe knows
> that.
Not necessarily. I've been a qualifying student the last year. Won't be
next year.

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no_name - 20 Aug 2006 05:05 GMT
> I have been shopping for Photoshop CS2 and on some seller sites it states
>
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>
> Thanks!
To buy the academic version you have to provide either a student or a
teacher's ID.
If you don't have that, you're going to have to buy retail or find some
way to qualify for another discount.

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Pete D - 20 Aug 2006 05:20 GMT
>> I have been shopping for Photoshop CS2 and on some seller sites it states
>>
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> To buy the academic version you have to provide either a student or a
> teacher's ID.
This not true at all, it is not up to the sellers to police this.
> If you don't have that, you're going to have to buy retail or find some
> way to qualify for another discount.
See above. Same for academic versions of Windows XP.
> These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on
> me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any
> Government, Commercial or Educational institution.
>
> John
John McWilliams - 21 Aug 2006 16:41 GMT
>>> I have been shopping for Photoshop CS2 and on some seller sites it states
>>>
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> This not true at all, it is not up to the sellers to police this.
Of course it is. They lose their source if they don't follow guidelines.

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Eric Schreiber - 20 Aug 2006 05:16 GMT
> I have been shopping for Photoshop CS2 and on some seller sites it
> states
> "Academic box. This is the same program as the retail box and is
> legal for both commercial and educational use. "
The academic version is indeed identical to the retail, except the
About Box says "Educational Version" on it. Otherwise, all functions
are the same, and the licensing (e.g. what you can use it for) is the
same.
The academic version is also eligible for future upgrades, and you can
continue to use it after you are no longer a student. In other words,
aside from the price and the purchase requirements, it's the same
product.
> Is this really the same version, and if so, why would anyone want to
> by the retail version?
The academic pricing is only available to students, and you must
provide proof of eligibility to the seller. I bought mine through
www.academicsuperstore.com using my current college student ID.

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