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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / August 2006Working with RAW
I am trying (fort the first time) to open a RAW file that I shot with my D70. I'm using Photoshop7. When I "Open as" I get a dialog box that shows the following: Size: 5416900 bytes Channels: Count 1 Depth: 8 Bits or 16 Bits Header: Defaults to 0 When I click OK I get a gray image...no picture. I read the Adobe PS Help file but did not have any success. Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? Many thanks in advance. Gordon >Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? Gordon, PS7 doesn't open *camera* raw files, the "raw" you see using "open as" is intended to open some otherwise unidentifiable files created by mainly obsolete software. To open camera raw files you need Elements 3 or 4, or Photoshop CS2. These use the "Adobe Camera Raw" (ACR) plug-in which can open and adjust your D70 files. Alternatively you could use a free converter like Rawshooter Essentials to process your D70 NEF file into a TIF or JPG to open with PS7. Hope this helps.  SignatureJohn Bean Well stated and well understood. Thank you so much. Gordon >>Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Hope this helps. Photoshop CS also opens raw files. >>Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Hope this helps. >Photoshop CS also opens raw files. It does, and should open D70 (but not D70s I think) files with the last release of ACR (2.4) that works with CS. I deliberately mentioned only versions of PS and PSE that can use the latest version of ACR (3.4). SignatureJohn Bean > It does, and should open D70 (but not D70s I think) files > with the last release of ACR (2.4) that works with CS. I > deliberately mentioned only versions of PS and PSE that can > use the latest version of ACR (3.4). If you want to get a raw file into CS that is too new for ACR 2.4, then get the DNG convertor 3.4 with ACR. Use the 3.4 standalone RAW to DNG convertor to convert the raw file to DNG and then open the DNG file in PS CS with ACR2.4 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/photoshop/cameraraw/win/3.x/DNG_Camera_Raw_3_4.zip ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/photoshop/cameraraw/win/Camera_Raw_2_4.zip I have a Nikon D100, so the cameraraw plug-in for Photoshop CS is fine for that. What I am wondering is if I will have to upgrade to Photoshop CS2 if I purchase a Nikon D200 and want to use Raw files from that camera with Photoshop. I really want to wait until the next version of Photoshop before upgrading. >>Photoshop CS also opens raw files. > > It does, and should open D70 (but not D70s I think) files > with the last release of ACR (2.4) that works with CS. I > deliberately mentioned only versions of PS and PSE that can > use the latest version of ACR (3.4). Have you installed the latest version of ACR? SignatureJoan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly :I have a Nikon D100, so the cameraraw plug-in for Photoshop CS is fine for : that. What I am wondering is if I will have to upgrade to Photoshop CS2 if [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : > deliberately mentioned only versions of PS and PSE that can : > use the latest version of ACR (3.4). I have installed the latest plug-in from the Adobe site for ACR for Photoshop CS--NOT Photoshop CS2. This is version 2.4 There was no mention of a Nikon D200 in the cameras added to those included in earlier versions. Hence, my question about needing Photoshop CS2 to be able to handle the RAW files from the D200. > Have you installed the latest version of ACR? > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > : > deliberately mentioned only versions of PS and PSE that can > : > use the latest version of ACR (3.4). > I have installed the latest plug-in from the Adobe site for ACR for > Photoshop CS--NOT Photoshop CS2. This is version 2.4 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >>Have you installed the latest version of ACR? Someone else pointed out there's a double conversion that will work. ACR is apparently available as a standalone, and you can use the later version to convert newer .NEF files to .DNG and then open the .DNG file in Photoshop CS. If I understand the .DNG format, it's supposed to be a generic wrapper that contains all the original raw file data. > I have a Nikon D100, so the cameraraw plug-in for Photoshop CS is > fine for that. What I am wondering is if I will have to upgrade to > Photoshop CS2 if I purchase a Nikon D200 and want to use Raw files > from that camera with Photoshop. If you want to use ACR, yes. It will be possible to use the basic plug-in that comes with Nikon View to load the NEFs but you will only get a couple of RAW adjustments. -Mike I am a bit unsure of what you are saying. Are you saying that if I purchase a Nikon D100, I will also receive a copy of Nikon View that contains a plug-in for Photoshop that will work for Photoshop CS? >> I have a Nikon D100, so the cameraraw plug-in for Photoshop CS is >> fine for that. What I am wondering is if I will have to upgrade to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -Mike > I am a bit unsure of what you are saying. > > Are you saying that if I purchase a Nikon D100, I will also receive a > copy of Nikon View that contains a plug-in for Photoshop that will > work for Photoshop CS? I assume you meant D200 there? Nikon View is a free download. When you install it and you have PS on your system it puts 2 plug-ins in the PS/plug-ins folder. One of these allows PS to recognise NEFs without ACR. The problem with CS is that the latest version of ACR which works on it is 2.4. Of course this doesn't recognise any of the newer camera formats. -Mike > Nikon View is a free download. When you install it and you have PS on > your system it puts 2 plug-ins in the PS/plug-ins folder. One of these [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is 2.4. Of course this doesn't recognise any of the newer camera > formats. ACR 2.4 may not read newer camera formats, but it does read the latest version of DNG. Adobe's free DNG convertor 3.4 supports the same cameras as ACR3.4. If you download DNG convertor 3.4 and then convert your NEF files to DNG, you can open the DNG files in ACR 2.4 and get all of your raw adjustments. It is one more step but you can still use CS and ACR 2.4 for the new cameras this way. > I have a Nikon D100, so the cameraraw plug-in for Photoshop CS is fine for > that. What I am wondering is if I will have to upgrade to Photoshop CS2 if > I purchase a Nikon D200 and want to use Raw files from that camera with > Photoshop. I really want to wait until the next version of Photoshop before > upgrading. [snip] See all posts from John Bean and "default". CS with ACR 2.4 supports the same set of cameras that CS2 with ACR 3.4 supports. For recent cameras it is necessary to use the DNG route. But no one is forced to upgrade because their camera is a new one. SignatureBarry Pearson http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/ >>Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Hope this helps. > Actually CS would do it and there was an ACR plugin available for CS that worked with D70 files. Instead of "Open As" just use "File|Open" Or if you have CS2 just use Adobe Bridge. > >Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Essentials to process your D70 NEF file into a TIF or JPG to > open with PS7. Out of interest, if the OP was to use the Adobe DNG converter to convert his raw files to DNG (doh!) - what's the earliest version of PS that supports DNG? >> >Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >raw files to DNG (doh!) - what's the earliest version of PS that supports >DNG? CS2 (Ver 9) I think.... > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:15:39 +1200, "C J Southern" >>Out of interest, if the OP was to use the Adobe DNG converter to convert [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > CS2 (Ver 9) I think.... Nope. You can use CS with ACR 2.4 to open DNG files from ACR (and DNG converter) 3.4 (and earlier). ACR versions before 2.4 don't open the latest DNG version and CS (ver 8) can only use up to 2.4. This leads to the ability to work with RAW files from newer cameras by first converting the RAW to DNG with Adobe DNG converter 3.4 and then opening the DNG file with ACR 2.4 in Photoshop CS. >>>>Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > CS2 (Ver 9) I think.... Photoshop 7 at least - I remember it came out while I was still using Photoshop 7 & I downloaded a plugin at that time. >I am trying (fort the first time) to open a RAW file that I shot with my >D70. I'm using Photoshop7. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Can anyone help with what the settings should be to get an image? I'm not a PS user myself, but I'm pretty sure you need "adobe camera raw" to work with raw! >>I am trying (fort the first time) to open a RAW file that I shot with my >>D70. I'm using Photoshop7. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I'm not a PS user myself, but I'm pretty sure you need "adobe camera raw" to > work with raw! And there was a ACR plugin for CS. > I am trying (fort the first time) to open a RAW file that I shot with > my D70. I'm using Photoshop7. Install Nikon View on your computer. This will add a plugin to PS which allows it to open your D70 NEFs -Mike I have the D70s and PhotoShop CS2. I got the right plugin from the Nikon website by installing "Nikon View" which was a free download. Perhaps, PhotoShop 7 could be the same? ------------------------------ > > I am trying (fort the first time) to open a RAW file that I shot with > > my D70. I'm using Photoshop7. >> > I am trying (fort the first time) to open a RAW file that I shot with >> > my D70. I'm using Photoshop7. > >I have the D70s and PhotoShop CS2. I got the right plugin from the >Nikon website by installing "Nikon View" which was a free download. >Perhaps, PhotoShop 7 could be the same? It should work the same since my friend still uses Photoshop version 6 and it works with the NEF plugin. If you just want to view, have you tried Microsoft RAW thumbnailer and viewer? FREE. >I am trying (fort the first time) to open a RAW file that I shot with my >D70. I'm using Photoshop7. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Gordon |
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