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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / August 2006About Adobe Camera Raw
Does anyone know if the raw input of Elements 4 is the same as the full feature CS2 version? I have Elements 4 and I don't want to blow $850 on software that has the same raw ability... Also - anyone know of a plugin for .ARW files? Tanks in vance > Does anyone know if the raw input of Elements 4 is the same as the full feature > CS2 version? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Also - anyone know of a plugin for .ARW files? Just download Lightroom, it's free, it uses the same ACR converter, and it has the extra bells and whistles you get when that converter works in CS2. Elements 4 has a lot of stuff disabled, like resizing files directly from raw, chromatic fringe correction, colour calibration etc. David [snip] > > Also - anyone know of a plugin for .ARW files? > > Just download Lightroom, it's free, it uses the same ACR converter, and > it has the extra bells and whistles you get when that converter works in > CS2. [snip] Has Lightroom caught up with ARW files yet? (Aren't they only used for the A-100? That was only supported unofficially in ACR 3.4).  SignatureBarry Pearson http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/ > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Has Lightroom caught up with ARW files yet? (Aren't they only used for > the A-100? That was only supported unofficially in ACR 3.4). Yes. Lightroom appears to use the common Adobe library, which is where ACR 3.4 is stored to make it accessible by all Adobe progs. It does not have exactly the same controls. see: http://www.pbase.com/image/65066865 I've put up a screen shot of Lightroom Public Beta 3 developing a 1600 ISO .ARW file with some noise and tone control set. The image is viewed at 100 per cent in the Lightroom window. David [snip] > Yes. Lightroom appears to use the common Adobe library, which is where > ACR 3.4 is stored to make it accessible by all Adobe progs. [snip] Thanks. I knew they shared code. I didn't know that both had released the results - my reading was that Lightroom releases tended to lag behind. SignatureBarry Pearson http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/ >> Does anyone know if the raw input of Elements 4 is the same as the full feature >> CS2 version? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Just download Lightroom, it's free, I couldn't get it - Adobe sucks! > it uses the same ACR converter, and >it has the extra bells and whistles you get when that converter works in >CS2. Elements 4 has a lot of stuff disabled, like resizing files >directly from raw, chromatic fringe correction, colour calibration etc. > >David > I couldn't get it - Adobe sucks! With my existing Adobe account I couldn't, so I just created a new account using my gmail address. It's DLing as I write this. If it can help me with my Max 7D images en bloc, then it may be a good adjunct to Elements. Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >> I couldn't get it - Adobe sucks! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Cheers, >Alan I tried 3 times to reset my password but it kept saying wrong password... I hate IS crap! I Emailed them and will see what will happen... I don't have another account or Email address... Do you know if it is generic software? Will one persons' download work on anybody's computer? If so I'll get my Nephew to get it... > Do you know if it is generic software? Will one persons' download work on > anybody's computer? If so I'll get my Nephew to get it... Yeah, a copy should work, it's about 120 MB I also noticed that the splash screen says that the s/w will expire at some undefined point in the future. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >> Do you know if it is generic software? Will one persons' download >> work on anybody's computer? If so I'll get my Nephew to get it... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I also noticed that the splash screen says that the s/w will expire > at some undefined point in the future. Probably in Januari 2007. Also note that it is a (public) Beta version. It is intended as a works in progress, concept testing version, and features can and wil be either dropped or added as they go to the next (Beta) version. Also, the output results may not be the same as from future releases using the same settings, and the database may be incompatible with the final release. People are encouraged to try it, report issues and whishes, but NOT to use production critical images for testing. For all we know it might damage a Raw file, so use a backed-up copies. The code also is far from optimized, so it is *extremely, unworkably* slow right now. There are some who expect 2 more releases before Version 1.0, and it may take well into version 2.0 before some of the former Pixmantec capabilities come into effect. Bart . >>> Do you know if it is generic software? Will one persons' download >>> work on anybody's computer? If so I'll get my Nephew to get it... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > into version 2.0 before some of the former Pixmantec capabilities come > into effect. I tried to import a library of some 80 images (RAW) to work on. The machine laboured mightily for a while (a minute or so) and then stopped labouring. Nothing else hapeened. Eventually, I quit the program and re-started it. Laboured again (on my instantiation) for a minute and up came the library. For output I haven't figured out how to save finished work. Not sure if it is whacking my RAW's (dates haven't changed, so I assume not)... As to the value of the tool, it has much better (but incomplete) RAW controls. For example, I'd like to change skin tones with a CMY "probe", but it only has RGB. (Yes, the RAW is RGB, but it could report to me the CMY values ... this is for skin tones, (MY) esp.) Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >For output I haven't figured out how to save finished work. Not sure if >it is whacking my RAW's (dates haven't changed, so I assume not)... File->Export... opens a dialogue where you can choose location, file format etc. My limited use of Lightroom hasn't thrown up any problems with Canon RAW files; after processing in LR the RAW is left unaltered and readable in all other applications. Al Signature[This space left intentionally blank] >>> I couldn't get it - Adobe sucks! >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > password... I hate IS crap! I Emailed them and will see what will > happen... I don't have another account or Email address... I had the same problem. Didn't get a decent answer from Adobe. Finally figured the reason: my password for the original account only had 4 characters. After changing to 8 characters it worked fine for the downloadsite. Iman > Do you know if it is generic software? Will one persons' download > work on anybody's computer? If so I'll get my Nephew to get it... SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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