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jacobsmail@postmark.net - 11 Aug 2006 02:13 GMT
Are Canon battery grips operational when there's a battery in the
camera but no batteries in the grip?

Thanks in advance for any answers. :)
Randall Ainsworth - 11 Aug 2006 02:20 GMT
> Are Canon battery grips operational when there's a battery in the
> camera but no batteries in the grip?

You can't do it that way. There's a battery-sized thing that goes up in
the cavity where the battery would be and makes contact inside the
camera.
Bill - 11 Aug 2006 02:54 GMT
>Are Canon battery grips operational when there's a battery in the
>camera but no batteries in the grip?

No, because in order to use the battery grip, you need to take out the
battery from the camera, and attach the grip. Look here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002YE6G8/002-6917689-5115213?v=glance&n=502394

The vertical portion is inserted into the battery compartment, and at
least one battery must be placed into the grip.
Mark B. - 12 Aug 2006 12:36 GMT
> Are Canon battery grips operational when there's a battery in the
> camera but no batteries in the grip?

Since the battery grip installs into the battery compartment, it's
impossible to have a battery in the camera at the same time :-)    You can
put 1 or 2 batteries in the grip.

Mark
Silicon Sam - 12 Aug 2006 20:06 GMT
> > Are Canon battery grips operational when there's a battery in the
> > camera but no batteries in the grip?
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>
> Mark

 And also, the 2 batteries act as 1.  Meaning they both drain down
together, not one then the other as some had thought.  I have the grip
on my 300D

Raymond
Silicon Sam - 12 Aug 2006 20:06 GMT
> > Are Canon battery grips operational when there's a battery in the
> > camera but no batteries in the grip?
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>
> Mark

 And also, the 2 batteries act as 1.  Meaning they both drain down
together, not one then the other as some had thought.  I have the grip
on my 300D

Raymond
Jim Redelfs - 20 Aug 2006 04:46 GMT
> Since the battery grip installs into the battery compartment, it's
> impossible to have a battery in the camera at the same time :-)    You can
> put 1 or 2 batteries in the grip.

Would you please reveal the ADVANTAGE (need?) for a grip.

It's been 19 months since I bought my 20D.  At the same time I bought the
camera, I bought a spare [drumroll] Canon (brand) battery pack, among other
things.  I use the 580EX hotshoe flash more than the built-in flash.

A single, internal battery lasts me "forever".  Admittedly,  I prefer using
the 580EX hotshoe flash but have noticed that, when using the built-in flash,
the battery draws down faster.  Still, I have never had to change packs in a
hurry.

I am beginning to believe that, for me anyway, the biggest "plus" to a battery
grip would be its effect as a counterweight:  As it is, when the hotshoe flash
is mounted and the whole affair is hanging from my neck, it tends to flop-over
and hang up-side-down!
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SkipM - 20 Aug 2006 01:52 GMT
> Would you please reveal the ADVANTAGE (need?) for a grip.
>
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> flop-over
> and hang up-side-down!

Since I shoot a lot of portrait style images, the controls on the grip,
which orient correctly when holding the camera vertically, are a great help.
That and it gives me a little extra purchase, with the last two fingers of
my hand having somewhere to rest.  Third, since I use a lot of IS lenses, I
found my self changing batteries frequently, and the flash frame I use
blocks the battery door on my cameras.  The grip kills one bird with two
stones on this issue, the extra battery lasts as long as I need it to, and
the battery door on the grip gives me access (which I haven't needed) with
the bracket mounted.  It does make it easier, though, to get the batteries
out to recharge without taking the bracket loose.
Unfortunately, the whole assembly still flops and hangs upside down...<G>

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Todd H. - 20 Aug 2006 04:52 GMT
> I am beginning to believe that, for me anyway, the biggest "plus" to a battery
> grip would be its effect as a counterweight:  As it is, when the hotshoe flash
> is mounted and the whole affair is hanging from my neck, it tends to flop-over
> and hang up-side-down!

Yup, I agree.  That and the vertical trigger button.

I own the battery grip, but tpyically only use it in situations where
I'm using my long lenses and shooting sports that lend themselves well
to vertical composition.

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G.T. - 20 Aug 2006 05:00 GMT
>>I am beginning to believe that, for me anyway, the biggest "plus" to a battery
>>grip would be its effect as a counterweight:  As it is, when the hotshoe flash
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> I'm using my long lenses and shooting sports that lend themselves well
> to vertical composition.

And on a Rebel XT it adds room to hold on to the camera.  Not as
important on a 20D or 30D.

Greg

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Bill - 20 Aug 2006 14:27 GMT
>>>I am beginning to believe that, for me anyway, the biggest "plus" to a battery
>>>grip would be its effect as a counterweight:  As it is, when the hotshoe flash
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>And on a Rebel XT it adds room to hold on to the camera.  Not as
>important on a 20D or 30D.

On the Rebel XT/350D I find it actually makes the handling WORSE for my
average sized hands.

The grip bulges out at the bottom which is normal, but because the grip
is so small, my little finger gets displaced and rides on the edge of
the grip bulge. It's more comfortable for me to shoot without the grip
as my little finger just sits under the camera body.

The grip is ok for portrait orientation though because the length of the
handle area is more suitable.

I think Canon should have made the grip a couple of cm taller to give
the handle more room. The weight increase would have been negligible and
part of the reason to have the grip is added size and weight.
Mark B. - 20 Aug 2006 23:35 GMT
>> Since the battery grip installs into the battery compartment, it's
>> impossible to have a battery in the camera at the same time :-)    You
>> can
>> put 1 or 2 batteries in the grip.
>
> Would you please reveal the ADVANTAGE (need?) for a grip.

Extra battery life is nice, but that's not my primary reason.  I use it for
1) easier grip on the camera and 2) vertical shutter release.

> It's been 19 months since I bought my 20D.  At the same time I bought the
> camera, I bought a spare [drumroll] Canon (brand) battery pack, among
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> flop-over
> and hang up-side-down!

That's how I carry it with a flash attached.

Mark
Jim Redelfs - 21 Aug 2006 06:09 GMT
> 1) easier grip on the camera and 2) vertical shutter release.

OK.  Vertical orientation is aparently number one on the hit parade.  I shoot
vertical A LOT.

I am disappointed that my counterweight idea doesn't work.   <sigh>

>> when the hotshoe flashvis mounted and the whole affair is hanging
>> from my neck, it tends to flop-over and hang up-side-down!

> That's how I carry it with a flash attached.

Oh, great.  As if I needed any help looking nerdy.   <sigh>
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Mark B. - 28 Aug 2006 02:58 GMT
>> 1) easier grip on the camera and 2) vertical shutter release.
>
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>
> Oh, great.  As if I needed any help looking nerdy.   <sigh>

Sorry, can't help you if you're just looking for a fashion accessory.  I
just want something to make pictures with ;-)

Mark
Fred Anonymous - 23 Aug 2006 18:49 GMT
> > Since the battery grip installs into the battery compartment, it's
> > impossible to have a battery in the camera at the same time :-)    You can
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>             :)
> JR

Hi Jim.

Two reason I got a grip:

- makes vertical use easier (knew this from experience with the T90 using an
auxilliary shutter button).
- if the rechargeable battery fails then I can change to AA cells.

Regards,  Ian.
 
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