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frederick - 20 Jul 2006 23:03 GMT Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. http://nikonimaging.com/global/ Seems a D70/s replacement is coming. Entirely new Nikon model names have had trademark applications registered at US Patent and Trademark Office. Nothing new there.
RichA - 20 Jul 2006 23:07 GMT > Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. > http://nikonimaging.com/global/ > Seems a D70/s replacement is coming. > Entirely new Nikon model names have had trademark applications > registered at US Patent and Trademark Office. Nothing new there. Looks like a "head 'em off at the pass" answer to the Sony Alpha.
frederick - 20 Jul 2006 23:27 GMT >> Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Looks like a "head 'em off at the pass" answer to the Sony Alpha. I don't know about that really. This looks like just a repeat of the D100/D70 evolution - the D200 was announced almost a year ago - and the D70/s is getting long in the tooth. I don't think Canon or Nikon feel threatened by Sony at the moment - but that's not to say that the deep pockets and marketing skill of Sony won't change that in future. I'm probably wrong, but expect this to be a D200 with plastic body, minus aperture connecting rings to meter with non chipped lenses. The D200 has been a big success for Nikon - even at nearly three times the price for a D70s body. I expect that this new camera will be crippled in some way apart from above - most likely it won't have the great (for cropped sensor cameras) viewfinder of the D200. My guess is that the immediate loser may be Canon - as I wouldn't expect them to release an updated 350d with more mp than a 30d - and despite there being very little image quality difference between 6 and 10mp, and practically none between 6 and 8 or 8 and 10, bragging rights helps sell cameras.
DD - 21 Jul 2006 06:24 GMT > >> Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. > >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/ [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > D100/D70 evolution - the D200 was announced almost a year ago - and the > D70/s is getting long in the tooth. "Long in the tooth"? The "s" has only been around a short while and my D70 only has about 5,000 frames on it!
Sooner or later working photographers realise that trying to keep up with the pixel race, or the feature race just isn't a feasible business action. They find a camera they are happy with and work it until it works no more.
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Bill - 21 Jul 2006 07:51 GMT >> > Looks like a "head 'em off at the pass" answer to the Sony Alpha. >> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >"Long in the tooth"? The "s" has only been around a short while and my >D70 only has about 5,000 frames on it! The D70s is now 15 months old, introduced April 20 2005, which in the Nikon DSLR market makes it somewhat middle aged. It's not ready for retirement yet, but Nikon needs a new camera to keep Sony and Canon from taking sales away with their 8mp and 10mp models.
>Sooner or later working photographers realise that trying to keep up >with the pixel race, or the feature race just isn't a feasible business >action. They find a camera they are happy with and work it until it >works no more. True. But Nikon can't sit idle and let the competition get ahead.
Nikon took a long time getting the D200 ready, and they did a good job. This new model will likely have a lot of the same components, so it's almost a proven design already.
cjcampbell - 21 Jul 2006 09:18 GMT > > >> Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. > > >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/ [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > "Long in the tooth"? The "s" has only been around a short while and my > D70 only has about 5,000 frames on it! You need to get out more. My D70 has nearly 20,000 frames on it. But the "s" was only a minor upgrade; basically it got a larger LCD and that was it. Nikon seems to have a pattern of doing an "s" when a body is about eighteen months old.
I don't think the new camera is intended to "head 'em off at the pass." It probably has been in development for a great deal longer than that. But it is unlike Nikon to do a teaser ad like this, so the ad may very well be targeted at people thinking of the Sony Alpha. So the camera isn't a response to the Sony Alpha, but the ad might be.
DD - 21 Jul 2006 09:57 GMT > You need to get out more. My D70 has nearly 20,000 frames on it. I agree. Does my 2nd hand D2H with 23,000 frames taken by somebody else count for anything? ;-)
> I don't think the new camera is intended to "head 'em off at the pass." > It probably has been in development for a great deal longer than that. > But it is unlike Nikon to do a teaser ad like this, so the ad may very > well be targeted at people thinking of the Sony Alpha. So the camera > isn't a response to the Sony Alpha, but the ad might be. I think they are worried about Sony for nothing. Sony makes crap. Always will. I can't see them being successful in the DSLR market unless they start paying half their profits to the retailers at POS.
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David Kilpatrick - 21 Jul 2006 12:21 GMT > I think they are worried about Sony for nothing. Sony makes crap. Always > will. I can't see them being successful in the DSLR market unless they > start paying half their profits to the retailers at POS. Sony makes crap - sure. That's why the D200 and the new Nikon use a Sony sensor, as do the D50, the D70, D70S, D100, D2X, D2XS, most Coolpix models...
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k-man - 21 Jul 2006 12:53 GMT Sony's electronics are great. It's their moving parts that are crap (i.e., broken Walkman buttons, busted CD changers). Though, the alpha will use much if not all of Minolta's moving parts (at least for the mirror and anit-shake).
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> > I think they are worried about Sony for nothing. Sony makes crap. Always > > will. I can't see them being successful in the DSLR market unless they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > DK DD - 21 Jul 2006 13:41 GMT > Sony's electronics are great. It's their moving parts that are crap > (i.e., broken Walkman buttons, busted CD changers). Though, the alpha > will use much if not all of Minolta's moving parts (at least for the > mirror and anit-shake). I have a graveyard of broken Sony products. Hi-fis, CD-ROMs, headphones, etc. I feel certain that in the near future Nikon will be making their own sensors anyway...
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John Francis - 21 Jul 2006 17:36 GMT >> Sony's electronics are great. It's their moving parts that are crap >> (i.e., broken Walkman buttons, busted CD changers). Though, the alpha [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >etc. I feel certain that in the near future Nikon will be making their >own sensors anyway... I, on the other hand, have been very happy with Sony equipment for the last quarter of a century or more, in which time I've only suffered one failure - in the mechanisms of a bottom-of-the line CD player (CDP-30?). Their entry-level products are cheap, and show it, but once you get beyond that price point product quality improves considerably. I still use a Sony linear tracking turntable for those of my LPs for which no CD version has been released; in fact just about the only piece of my A/V setup that isn't Sony is the second (HD) TiVo box. Oh, and the portable DVD player (Polaroid) and wireless headphones (AR).
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 21 Jul 2006 14:36 GMT >> I think they are worried about Sony for nothing. Sony makes crap. Always >> will. I can't see them being successful in the DSLR market unless they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sensor, as do the D50, the D70, D70S, D100, D2X, D2XS, most Coolpix > models... The D2X uses a CMOS sensor ... did Sony make that? Or did Nikon create it?
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David Kilpatrick - 21 Jul 2006 16:10 GMT >>>I think they are worried about Sony for nothing. Sony makes crap. Always >>>will. I can't see them being successful in the DSLR market unless they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The D2X uses a CMOS sensor ... did Sony make that? Or did Nikon create it? It's a Sony/Nikon design using the same CMOS architecture as the R1 sensor.
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Bill - 21 Jul 2006 16:28 GMT >> Sony makes crap - sure. That's why the D200 and the new Nikon use a Sony >> sensor, as do the D50, the D70, D70S, D100, D2X, D2XS, most Coolpix >> models... Sony does make some good stuff, but a lot of cheap junk too.
Years ago they made some of the best electronic items, but over the years their outsourcing and cost cutting has really lowered their quality levels on many items.
Today Sony relies on the name they made with the good stuff to sell cheap junk to uneducated consumers. In many cases the cheap stuff is good enough, so no one complains.
There are some Sony products I would buy, but many that I would not.
Sony is not the only company to be put in this status.
>The D2X uses a CMOS sensor ... did Sony make that? Or did Nikon create it? It was custom made for Nikon by Sony.
Geir Eivind Mork - 21 Jul 2006 20:06 GMT DD skrev:
> I think they are worried about Sony for nothing. Sony makes crap. Always > will. I can't see them being successful in the DSLR market unless they > start paying half their profits to the retailers at POS. Good to know such a vivid fan of one brand, tags one entire corp. as a producer of crap.
The world moves ahead due to competition; Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus and all the rest makes great products. People buy them, love them and surprise - the world is big enough for all of them to survive.
I highly doubt Sony will bankrupt Nikon, Canon will neither drive Nikon out of business. Olympus, Pentax and Sony will probably never be the preffered brand of the majority of photo journalists and professionals due to the extensive framework build up over years and the lack of need for a new brand to rise up to take over that job. But photo amatours will buy into the brand they feel suits their need, and they will take as good photos as their skill allows them. The cameras are merely a tool for that purpose, and if you choose that or the other lineup it really doesn't matter.
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 21 Jul 2006 14:35 GMT > "Long in the tooth"? The "s" has only been around a short while and my > D70 only has about 5,000 frames on it! There is very little difference between a D70 and D70s. They are the same basic model camera, and for all intents and purposes can be considered the same as far as release goes ... IMHO.
> Sooner or later working photographers realise that trying to keep up > with the pixel race, or the feature race just isn't a feasible business > action. They find a camera they are happy with and work it until it > works no more. I agree. However, I believe 6MP is too small yet, as there is very little ability to crop when attempting to print an image greater than 8x10. I would like to be able to crop an image a bit and print an 10x15 image or 11x17 image without significant image degradation on the print. Having said that, without cropping, my D70 has done a fine job with creating images that print beautifully at 10x15.
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DD - 24 Jul 2006 06:14 GMT > I agree. However, I believe 6MP is too small yet, as there is very little > ability to crop when attempting to print an image greater than 8x10. I would > like to be able to crop an image a bit and print an 10x15 image or 11x17 image > without significant image degradation on the print. Having said that, without > cropping, my D70 has done a fine job with creating images that print > beautifully at 10x15. Yep, you will be amazed at what 6MP can do. In fact, I am going backwards and now I find that a 4.1MP D2H works fine for me (and the price was an absolute bargain).
I hate doing post-processing work. I have never liked doing it and I doubt I ever will take to it. If I can get near perfect images out of the camera, then I am happy. So far the D70 has been fantastic in jpg mode for me.
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Bill - 24 Jul 2006 08:20 GMT >I hate doing post-processing work. I have never liked doing it and I >doubt I ever will take to it. If I can get near perfect images out of >the camera, then I am happy. So far the D70 has been fantastic in jpg >mode for me. I agree that if it gives you what you want, that's all there is to it.
However, I've found the D70 loses some detail and sharpness in jpg mode, so I use it in raw mode and convert later - not too troublesome but I'm used to it though.
Since you like the results in jpg, have you considered running a simple batch conversion? If you fiddle with the settings a lot in jpg, then it might not work for you. But if you tend to just shoot, where all the basic settings are the same, a batch job might be useful.
DD - 24 Jul 2006 10:20 GMT > >I hate doing post-processing work. I have never liked doing it and I > >doubt I ever will take to it. If I can get near perfect images out of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > might not work for you. But if you tend to just shoot, where all the > basic settings are the same, a batch job might be useful. What I did at the A1GP in January was set it to shoot RAW and JPG simultaneously. I got such good jpgs that much of the RAW files were unneeded.
Must say though, that shooting RAW with the D2H seems to be a pre- requisite. Damn, that camera has a lot of settings to look out for!
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cjcampbell - 21 Jul 2006 01:23 GMT > Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. > http://nikonimaging.com/global/ > Seems a D70/s replacement is coming. > Entirely new Nikon model names have had trademark applications > registered at US Patent and Trademark Office. Nothing new there. Nice teaser images. I thought that the D70 replacement would have 8Mp, but it makes sense to use a sensor they already have.
The D70 stole a lot of sales from the D100, having almost all the features of that venerable machine for less than half the price. I suspect that this new camera will be a D200 lite -- a few minor differences, a plastic body instead of a magnesium one, not as well sealed, but otherwise having the most essential features of the D200. It might even use the same inexpensive remote control that the D70 uses, instead of the clunky wireless thing you need for the D200.
Adorama finally shipped my D200. I expect it sometime next week. If my daughter can keep her hands off of it. :-) She uses Canon, but when I asked her what she wanted for Christmas, she said, "I have it right here."
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 21 Jul 2006 14:39 GMT >> Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/ [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It might even use the same inexpensive remote control that the D70 > uses, instead of the clunky wireless thing you need for the D200. So many people call it a "plastic body". In reality, it is a poly-carbonate body. Poly-carbonate is not a tradition polymer like plastic and is a much more durible substance. I like it better than whatever the Canon products use.
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Bill - 21 Jul 2006 16:28 GMT >So many people call it a "plastic body". In reality, it is a poly-carbonate >body. Poly-carbonate is not a tradition polymer like plastic and is a much >more durible substance. Where did you get that idea?
Polycarbonate is a clear polymer plastic like "lexan" used to make bulletproof glass (additives are used to make it black and resistant to ultraviolet light to prevent fading).
> I like it better than whatever the Canon products use. Surprise!
Canon Digital Rebel, Rebel XT, some film bodies, lense housings, etc. are all made of polycarbonate plastics.
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 21 Jul 2006 16:47 GMT >>So many people call it a "plastic body". In reality, it is a poly-carbonate >>body. Poly-carbonate is not a tradition polymer like plastic and is a much [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > bulletproof glass (additives are used to make it black and resistant to > ultraviolet light to prevent fading). Fair enough ... you are correct, and I was mistaken. I derived this on the fact that they used to have plastic lenses in glasses and then the durable polycarbonate lenses. By definition, polycarbonate is based upon a polymer and therefor a plastic, but there are different plastics. We made specific use of polycarbonate over other types of plastic in college for use with failure testing and it was never referred to as simply plastic. Odd.
>> I like it better than whatever the Canon products use. > > Surprise! > > Canon Digital Rebel, Rebel XT, some film bodies, lense housings, etc. > are all made of polycarbonate plastics. Yes, surprise indeed based upon my preconceived terms above. In any event, the Canon Rebel bodies feel extremely cheap and now I have no explanation for that. :-)
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Bill - 21 Jul 2006 17:34 GMT > We made specific >use of polycarbonate over other types of plastic in college for use with >failure testing and it was never referred to as simply plastic. Odd. In technical labs and under the roof of an educational facility I would expect them to use the proper names, so not referring to it as plastic seems right.
Even in high school physics we called butane, naphtha, and propane by their names, not just "gas".
>> Canon Digital Rebel, Rebel XT, some film bodies, lense housings, etc. >> are all made of polycarbonate plastics. > >Yes, surprise indeed based upon my preconceived terms above. In any event, >the Canon Rebel bodies feel extremely cheap and now I have no explanation for >that. :-) Well I have the Canon XT and Nikon D70s sitting beside me here and I've used both extensively. I don't think the Canon feels any different from the Nikon from a durability standpoint.
The two cameras have different handling characteristics where the Nikon is bigger and heavier, and people may take that to imply somewhat better construction, but I don't believe that's true.
G.T. - 21 Jul 2006 17:44 GMT > the Canon Rebel bodies feel extremely cheap and now I have no explanation for > that. :-) I do. Blind brand loyalty.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse - 21 Jul 2006 18:09 GMT >> the Canon Rebel bodies feel extremely cheap and now I have no explanation for >> that. :-) > > I do. Blind brand loyalty. No, I don't believe so. I like the 20D. I almost bought the 20D over the D70, but decided the best value at the time was with the D70. I have since committed myself to a brand for obvious reasons.
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DoN. Nichols - 21 Jul 2006 23:41 GMT According to Thomas T. Veldhouse <veldy71@yahoo.com>:
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> > Polycarbonate is a clear polymer plastic like "lexan" used to make > > bulletproof glass (additives are used to make it black and resistant to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > use of polycarbonate over other types of plastic in college for use with > failure testing and it was never referred to as simply plastic. Odd. That is because in a technological enterprise such as a failure testing lab, precision is important -- including in terminology. "Plastic" is too imprecise a term -- you need to know *which* "plastic" is under test -- it makes a *big* difference.
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cjcampbell - 21 Jul 2006 03:14 GMT > Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. > http://nikonimaging.com/global/ > Seems a D70/s replacement is coming. > Entirely new Nikon model names have had trademark applications > registered at US Patent and Trademark Office. Nothing new there. Thom Hogan speculates that the new model is *not* a D70/s replacement, as it is touted as an addition to Nikon's line. That would mean the D80. It still does not address the gaping hole in the lineup between the D200 and the D2xs. But what if it did?
frederick - 21 Jul 2006 04:32 GMT >> Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/ [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > D80. It still does not address the gaping hole in the lineup between > the D200 and the D2xs. But what if it did? What gaping hole between D2x and D200? The price?
cjcampbell - 21 Jul 2006 08:42 GMT > >> Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. > >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/ [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > What gaping hole between D2x and D200? The price? Good point. What really needs to be done is reduce the price on the D2xs and introduce a $4000 D3. But then, as long as I am wishing, how about we just cut all the prices by 2/3? :-)
Michael Schnell - 22 Jul 2006 07:34 GMT > and introduce a $4000 D3. With a 35mm sensor :). (Just dreaming.) -Michael
cjcampbell - 31 Jul 2006 05:33 GMT > Well announced that it will be announced in 20 days. > http://nikonimaging.com/global/ > Seems a D70/s replacement is coming. > Entirely new Nikon model names have had trademark applications > registered at US Patent and Trademark Office. Nothing new there. Ken Rockwell has pictures of the Nikon D80 up on his web site, along with a description. It will be interesting to see how accurate it is.
Those of you who read Rockwell know where to find his site. Those of you who hate him do, too. Personally, I like him. He does a good job of letting some of the hot air out of the balloons sent up by some of the more bombastic toads that dwell here. Most of the people who criticize him for accuracy are themselves even less knowledgeable.
Espen Stranger Seland - 31 Jul 2006 23:42 GMT >Most of the people who criticize >him for accuracy are themselves even less knowledgeable. Guess you use the same empirical method that Rockwell use.
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SMS - 02 Aug 2006 11:46 GMT >> Most of the people who criticize >> him for accuracy are themselves even less knowledgeable. > > Guess you use the same empirical method that Rockwell use. I still chuckle about when Rockwell insisted that there was no D70s coming, only a couple of days before it was announced.
Still, the D80 appears to be real, but looks like an upgrade of the D50, not the D70.
Bill - 02 Aug 2006 15:10 GMT >>> Most of the people who criticize >>> him for accuracy are themselves even less knowledgeable. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Still, the D80 appears to be real, but looks like an upgrade of the D50, >not the D70. Speculation.
If this D80 turns out to be an upgrade from the D50, then I would expect Nikon has a D90 or whatever in the works to upgrade from the D70s.
But something I noticed, if the pictures are accurate, it has a DOF preview button as well as a programmable button on it. There are two control dials, not one. It also looks like it has a remote shutter port. On top of all that, it has 10mp.
That's quite a lot more than the D70s offers, and the only thing that indicates a D50 upgrade is the SD card usage. And Nikons teaser shows it as an addition, not an upgrade.
But it's all speculation.
I guess we'll know for sure in a week...
ian - 02 Aug 2006 19:04 GMT >>>> Most of the people who criticize >>>> him for accuracy are themselves even less knowledgeable. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I guess we'll know for sure in a week... canons launch dates for printers and dslr tend to be september onwards. Nikon go for around january or so at least in the uk. If nikon do anything new the uk will probably officially hear it in january with the uk pma in birmingham nec around march april time.
Bill - 02 Aug 2006 20:47 GMT >> If this D80 turns out to be an upgrade from the D50, then I would expect >> Nikon has a D90 or whatever in the works to upgrade from the D70s. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >new the uk will probably officially hear it in january with the uk pma in >birmingham nec around march april time. I don't know if you realize it or not, but Nikon has a teaser campaign running right now with an official announcement date next week on Wednesday August 9th 2006.
This includes the UK site:
http://www.nikon.co.uk/
Which is different from the US:
http://www.nikonusa.com/
Many of the other Nikon sites are running these teasers as well, such as Canada, China, Hong Kong, Korea, Singapore, Brazil, Turkey, etc.
Geo - 18 Jan 2007 02:57 GMT it's going to be the D34 1/8 soon
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> > If this D80 turns out to be an upgrade from the D50, then I would expect > > Nikon has a D90 or whatever in the works to upgrade from the D70s. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > new the uk will probably officially hear it in january with the uk pma in > birmingham nec around march april time. jhthurman - 18 Jan 2007 16:18 GMT Maybe I came into this late, but I believe the D80 is targeted as the replacement for the D70s, and the new D40 is the replacement for the D50.
I have a D200 and from what I've seen, the D80 gives you about 90% of what a D200 will do, at a much lower price.
The new D40 is a great little camera....I bought two for Christmas to give to my son and daughter. It's very light and fast, and takes really good pictures. While it's only a 6MP camera, Nikon did a great job with the image processing and the picture quality is outstanding....perfect for that target audience of DSLR beginners or casual shooters. The camera is very small and light, making it easy to carry almost anywhere.
> it's going to be the D34 1/8 soon > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> new the uk will probably officially hear it in january with the uk pma in >> birmingham nec around march april time. Dr. Georg N.Nyman - 18 Jan 2007 18:21 GMT I can only agree to your comments regarding the D40. Currently, I am testing it to write another review for my website and what I have seen and tested until now is impressive for such a low priced, smallish and lightweight 6MPx DSLR - very good color, nice resolving power, a lot of features and excellent image processing algorithms. Georg Nyman http://www.gnyman.com
> Maybe I came into this late, but I believe the D80 is targeted as the > replacement for the D70s, and the new D40 is the replacement for the D50. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>> new the uk will probably officially hear it in january with the uk pma >>> in birmingham nec around march april time. Not Disclosed - 18 Jan 2007 23:31 GMT > Maybe I came into this late, but I believe the D80 is targeted as the > replacement for the D70s, and the new D40 is the replacement for the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > casual shooters. The camera is very small and light, making it easy > to carry almost anywhere. As Nikon removed features from the D50, I would consider the D40 a new camera. I look at replacements as a slight upgrade, therefore the replacement for the D50 is the D80, and the replacement of the D70s is the D200. Especially in light of the price drops (now sells in Ottawa for $1,650cdn body)
Not Disclosed - 18 Jan 2007 23:27 GMT > it's going to be the D34 1/8 soon > > g > >>> If this D80 turns out to be an upgrade from the D50, then I would expect >>> Nikon has a D90 or whatever in the works to upgrade from the D70s. The D200 is the D70/D70s replacement, now that the D200 body (in Ottawa) sells for $1650cdn. THe D50 was replaced with the D80, and the D40 is a new entry level camera that competes with the Pentax K100D and the new Canon 3000D (6 MP, entry level dSLR)
The expected Canon 50D is to compete with the D200. Expect a 20D to 30D type of upgrade for the 5D.
The Fuji S5 Pro price in Canada is pegged at $2,499.99. (http://www.fujifilm.ca/documents/Fuji_S5Pro_CB.pdf)
Expect the normal leaks and leakvertisements to start shortly, as the Spring PMA 2007 show runs March 8-11, 2007
cjcampbell - 20 Jan 2007 05:56 GMT >> it's going to be the D34 1/8 soon >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Expect the normal leaks and leakvertisements to start shortly, as the > Spring PMA 2007 show runs March 8-11, 2007 No kidding. The Nikon rumors are a D200s (possibly in-camera VR, sensor cleaner), the D3h (fast, sports photography camera), the D3x (35mm sensor), and maybe a D90.
I would expect only one or two of the above to actually be introduced. My guess is the D200s and the D3h or D3x.
Whatever new camera you get excited about (Canon 50D or one of the above Nikons or whatever) my advice would be to hold off at least six months before getting one. Wait at least for the first firmware update to be released and RAW converters for your favorite software. Almost every new camera introduced seems to have some bugs that need ironing out.
Mind, I don't always listen to my own advice. :-)
Little Green Eyed Dragon - 20 Jan 2007 15:39 GMT > Whatever new camera you get excited about (Canon 50D or one of the above > Nikons or whatever) my advice would be to hold off at least six months before > getting one.
>Wait at least for the first firmware update to be released and > RAW converters for your favorite software. Almost every new camera introduced > seems to have some bugs that need ironing out. > > Mind, I don't always listen to my own advice. :-) That's a good thing probably because:
That all makes it a year from introduction, and by that time the new generation is under way. The best policy "imop" is to use what you have until it no longer suits the need, then do some research and decide...otherwise you drive yourself bonkers.
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Richard H. - 20 Jan 2007 17:19 GMT >>Expect the normal leaks and leakvertisements to start shortly, as the >>Spring PMA 2007 show runs March 8-11, 2007 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I would expect only one or two of the above to actually be introduced. My > guess is the D200s and the D3h or D3x. Many of Nikon's DSLR lines were refreshed last year (D40/D80/D2Xs). Those aren't due for an update until 2008, if only for the practical need to recoup the development & tooling costs and turn a profit.
Looking at recent history, Nikon's DSLR refresh cycle has been 16-21 months. That makes D2Hs (23 months) and D200 (15 months) the most likely candidates.
> Whatever new camera you get excited about (Canon 50D or one of the above > Nikons or whatever) my advice would be to hold off at least six months before > getting one. Wait at least for the first firmware update to be released and > RAW converters for your favorite software. Almost every new camera introduced > seems to have some bugs that need ironing out. Or, buying one generation back from the cutting-edge can be a great value, more stable, and offers more complementing software / accessories. But those are rational points - it's emotionally tough to make a major purchase that's not the latest tech. :-)
Cheers, Richard
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