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Where to buy Nikon 18-200mm VR II?

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xkinetic - 13 Jul 2006 20:58 GMT
I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
have any leads?
J. Clarke - 14 Jul 2006 01:40 GMT
> I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
> Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
> have any leads?

Buy on ebay or get on a waiting list.  Check B&H every morning and if you
see it then buy it immediately.  The 18-200 and the D200 are very popular
items and Nikon is having trouble meeting demand.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse - 17 Jul 2006 16:55 GMT
>> I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
>> Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> see it then buy it immediately.  The 18-200 and the D200 are very popular
> items and Nikon is having trouble meeting demand.

Nikon is either having production troubles or they are intentionally limitting
supply to keep the price point on this lens.  At this point, I am beginning to
suspect the latter.

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J. Clarke - 17 Jul 2006 18:22 GMT
>>> I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
>>> Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> supply to keep the price point on this lens.  At this point, I am
> beginning to suspect the latter.

Or they just plain didn't anticipate the demand.  Limiting supply to the
extent that there is a 4 hour period each month in which one can actually
buy it suggests something more than market manipulation--I doubt that the
price would go any lower if you could buy it one day a week all day.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse - 17 Jul 2006 19:14 GMT
>> Nikon is either having production troubles or they are intentionally
>> limitting
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> buy it suggests something more than market manipulation--I doubt that the
> price would go any lower if you could buy it one day a week all day.

That more would be a production problem.  I think it is more than anticipating
demand.  Unless they make these things by hand, they just don't have an
explanation that I have seen.  I am suggesting that if it isn't a production
problem, then it is an intentional limit of supply.  I have a tough time
believing that they still have production problems more than seven months
after its release, which leads me to believe that they don't want the demand
satisfied and the price to go down (as happened with the 18-70 ... a known
bargain).

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 17 Jul 2006 23:30 GMT
> Nikon is either having production troubles or they are intentionally
> limitting supply to keep the price point on this lens.  At this
> point, I am beginning to suspect the latter.

Yes, Nikon is having a hard time keeping up with world demand.  No, Nikon is
*NOT* intentionally limiting supply to artificially inflate the price of
this lens.  After talking to the owner of a local photography supply house I
deal with, I sense the problem is Nikon selling in shipping container lots
to the likes of Best Buy, Circuit City, and various other scumbags.  This
nonsense is hurting the little shops while the big mega-chains are getting
the pick of the litter.

Rita
Bill - 18 Jul 2006 03:35 GMT
>> Nikon is either having production troubles or they are intentionally
>> limitting supply to keep the price point on this lens.  At this
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>nonsense is hurting the little shops while the big mega-chains are getting
>the pick of the litter.

Funny you should say that since a friend of mine who uses Nikon is still
looking for the 18-200, so I checked and found this info...

US sites:
Bestbuy.com - out of stock
CircuitCity.com - out of stock
BHPhoto - out of stock

CDN sites:
Bestbuy.ca - not listed
TheSourceCC.com - not listed (same as CircuitCity)
Henrys.com - out of stock

<sarcasm>
Wow you're right...the big mega-chains must be hoarding them so badly
that they don't even want to sell them.
</sarcasm>

Perhaps you could point us to a few mega-chains that have them stock?
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 18 Jul 2006 04:22 GMT
>> Yes, Nikon is having a hard time keeping up with world demand.  No,
>> Nikon is *NOT* intentionally limiting supply to artificially inflate
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Funny you should say that since a friend of mine who uses Nikon is
> still looking for the 18-200, so I checked and found this info...

And you are somebody so special that the mega-chain stores are going to save
you one before the thousands of first-come-first-serve customers with cash
in their hands get theirs?  You snooze you loose.

> US sites:
> Bestbuy.com - out of stock
> CircuitCity.com - out of stock
> BHPhoto - out of stock

All sold out in the first hour of getting them in.  Don't believe me, ask
B&H.

> CDN sites:
> Bestbuy.ca - not listed
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that they don't even want to sell them.
> </sarcasm>

WOW!  Reading comprehension and basic reasoning must not be one of your
strong points?  There is a difference between "hoarding" and almost
instantly selling out or reserving units for wait list customers.  Let me
break this down to first grade math for you.  Best Buy gets a shipping
container delivered to their main distribution hub that has 1,000 units of
the 18-200.  Let's say Best Buy has 100 stores across the continental US and
one main internet site.  You following?  This is where it gets very tricky.
The internet orders are *FILLED* first.  So, if the wait list has/had 500
customers on it that leaves 500 units left to be distributed to the 100
remaining stores for first come walk-in customers. So, this means that each
store should see five of them in a perfect world.  If you don't get off your
lazy a.s and get one as soon it arrive you lose.

> Perhaps you could point us to a few mega-chains that have them stock?

Maybe you can send your "friend" to eBay where there are literally hundreds
of them waiting for the morons that want to overpay way beyond MSRP for one.

Rita
Bill - 18 Jul 2006 11:13 GMT
>> Funny you should say that since a friend of mine who uses Nikon is
>> still looking for the 18-200, so I checked and found this info...
>
>And you are somebody so special that the mega-chain stores are going to save
>you one before the thousands of first-come-first-serve customers with cash
>in their hands get theirs?  You snooze you loose.

Ahh...so what you're saying is you just hate these stores because they
use their volume buying power to make a higher profit?

So does that mean you hate all chains?
Randy Howard - 18 Jul 2006 04:54 GMT
Bill wrote
(in article <IaSdnWwIUoh31SHZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@golden.net>):

>>> Nikon is either having production troubles or they are intentionally
>>> limitting supply to keep the price point on this lens.  At this
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Perhaps you could point us to a few mega-chains that have them stock?

I finally found one at buydig.com.  They got a bunch in, and
they were all sold within 2 hours.

I'm not sure why chains that buy large lots of camera equipment
are 'scumbags' in Rita's book.

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 18 Jul 2006 05:20 GMT
> I'm not sure why chains that buy large lots of camera equipment
> are 'scumbags' in Rita's book.

You're talking about Best Buy and Circuit City here.  I don't think we have
to rehash our feelings about these stores of why most people call them
scumbags.

As for buying large lots of camera equipment you should ask what these
mega-stores are doing to the small localized shops if you can find any left
in your town.  As I said earlier, I talked to the owner of one and he had to
jump through many hoops to become an authorized Nikon reseller.  Strangely
and unfairly enough Best Buy didn't have these same hoops.  Here's the best
part, he has a standing order with Nikon for 100 units of the 18-200 and has
only had 3 trickle in since they were introduced.  Something seems a bit
disproportional when a Best Buy can get them by the thousands and a small 20
year plus Nikon reseller can't get the other 97 he ordered.

As for Best Buy and Circuit City maybe you would feel differently if you
paid a couple thousand dollars for a new camera body and got a repackaged
used customer return of questionable quality and functionality?  I only buy
from trustworthy merchants.

Rita
Randy Howard - 22 Jul 2006 15:30 GMT
Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote
(in article <12boofu7hju3v47@news.supernews.com>):

>> I'm not sure why chains that buy large lots of camera equipment
>> are 'scumbags' in Rita's book.
>
> You're talking about Best Buy and Circuit City here.  I don't think we have
> to rehash our feelings about these stores of why most people call them
> scumbags.

Ok.  Just sling words around to make yourself feel better.

> As for buying large lots of camera equipment you should ask what these
> mega-stores are doing to the small localized shops if you can find any left
> in your town.  

There has never been a camera store in my town.  I prefer to
shop online anyway, so it's no great hardship.

> As I said earlier, I talked to the owner of one and he had to
> jump through many hoops to become an authorized Nikon reseller.  

So maybe some of the blame is Nikon's.

> As for Best Buy and Circuit City maybe you would feel differently if you
> paid a couple thousand dollars for a new camera body and got a repackaged
> used customer return of questionable quality and functionality?  

That hasn't happened to me.  I'm not particularly worried about
it either.  They have reasonable return policies.  I try to buy
from B&H, but their policy on queueing orders makes buying many
in-demand products ( most of them lately ) from them almost
impossible.  I wish it were otherwise.

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 23 Jul 2006 13:07 GMT
>> You're talking about Best Buy and Circuit City here.  I don't think
>> we have to rehash our feelings about these stores of why most people
>> call them scumbags.
>
> Ok.  Just sling words around to make yourself feel better.

The words don't make me feel one way or another.  I just don't like seeing
the clueless being fleeced by these scammers.  This is America and we all
know Americans never take responsibility for their actions.  If the word
saves one clueless individual from themselves then my work is complete.

>> As for buying large lots of camera equipment you should ask what
>> these mega-stores are doing to the small localized shops if you can
>> find any left in your town.
>
> There has never been a camera store in my town.  I prefer to
> shop online anyway, so it's no great hardship.

This is your loss.  I guess if you were born without legs it really wouldn't
be a hardship either since you really never knew anything else?  If you had
a *real* camera store, not Ritz, Best Buy, or Circuit City, you would have
more options available to you and feel differently.  I buy on-line as well,
but I support my local shop since they give me services and conveniences I
can't get on-line.  Plus, when the math is done if you are only worried
about the bottom line the local shop, at least for me, has blown away some
of the best prices found on the net, sometimes not.

>> As I said earlier, I talked to the owner of one and he had to
>> jump through many hoops to become an authorized Nikon reseller.
>
> So maybe some of the blame is Nikon's.

YES!  I blame Nikon for this.  Nikon screwed their authorized Nikon
resellers by allowing mega-chain stores to carry semi-professional and
professional gear.

>> As for Best Buy and Circuit City maybe you would feel differently if
>> you paid a couple thousand dollars for a new camera body and got a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> in-demand products ( most of them lately ) from them almost
> impossible.  I wish it were otherwise.

Yep, since it hasn't happened to you, you haven't had the embarrassment and
the aggravation of having to explain to the return department drone that you
got a rock or similar piece of garbage where the *NEW* merchandise you paid
for wasn't. That's one of the drawbacks of having a "reasonable return
policy" in place where incompetent or dishonest practices ultimately hurt
the consumer.  Amazingly you'll never get a rock or repack from B&H.

Rita
Randy Howard - 24 Jul 2006 01:15 GMT
Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote
(in article <12c6pu579et3p80@news.supernews.com>):

>> There has never been a camera store in my town.  I prefer to
>> shop online anyway, so it's no great hardship.
>
> This is your loss.  

It's my loss?  I know where brick and mortar camera stores are
if I really need one.  Duh.

> If you had a *real* camera store, not Ritz, Best Buy, or Circuit City,
> you would have more options available to you and feel differently.  

You're still not getting it.  None of the above are available
nearby.  I choose not to live in the strip-mall infested areas
of America, and enjoy it.

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 24 Jul 2006 01:56 GMT
>>> There has never been a camera store in my town.  I prefer to
>>> shop online anyway, so it's no great hardship.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> It's my loss?  I know where brick and mortar camera stores are
> if I really need one.  Duh.

Then you problems are solved and your life is complete.

>> If you had a *real* camera store, not Ritz, Best Buy, or Circuit
>> City, you would have more options available to you and feel
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> nearby.  I choose not to live in the strip-mall infested areas
> of America, and enjoy it.

So do I.  Let's see, I got trees, beach, water, and enough acreage for the
pup to do his thing, but I know where the camera store is.

Rita
Little Green Eyed Dragon - 18 Jul 2006 05:22 GMT
> I'm not sure why chains that buy large lots of camera equipment
> are 'scumbags' in Rita's book.

Clue for the clueless, they buy these at the lowest dealer net (below
Camera stores and possibly even B&H) Then raise the price to reflect the
MSRP or slightly below thus generating a profit of at least 30% above
net which most Camera stores are forced to charge a 1% profit on all
cameras and lenses so you and others can shop and buy elsewhere.  

Next comes employee wages (shall we say more).

I think that says it all whatyathink Rita?

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 18 Jul 2006 05:31 GMT
>> I'm not sure why chains that buy large lots of camera equipment
>> are 'scumbags' in Rita's book.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> I think that says it all whatyathink Rita?

You nailed it!  I'm sure B&H is feeling the heat from this as well.  As big
as B&H is they are still a minnow in a big pond compared to Circuit City and
Best Buy.  Fortunately, B&H is a highly respected, trustworthy, and
knowledgeable merchant.  Best Buy can call me and tell me they have an
18-200mm waiting with my name on it for $100 and I'll tell them to shove it
up their a.s.  I won't do business with them at any bargain price, period!

Rita
Randy Howard - 24 Jul 2006 01:17 GMT
Little Green Eyed Dragon wrote
(in article
<AShadeosPerceptionvanishez-
BBDF25.00282918072006@news.isp.giganews.com>):

>> I'm not sure why chains that buy large lots of camera equipment
>> are 'scumbags' in Rita's book.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> net which most Camera stores are forced to charge a 1% profit on all
> cameras and lenses so you and others can shop and buy elsewhere.  

Clue for the extra-clueless.  That couldn't happen if Nikon did
not allow it.  If you want to paint a scumbag, look at Nikon
(and Canon, and Pentax and .....)

It's called competition.  If the local guy can't compete, and
people don't support his store, that's too bad.  It'd be nice if
that didn't happen, but at some point you have to take off your
war paint and let reality soak in.

> Next comes employee wages (shall we say more).

You might at least add the punctuation.  :-)

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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 24 Jul 2006 01:56 GMT
>> Clue for the clueless, they buy these at the lowest dealer net (below
>> Camera stores and possibly even B&H) Then raise the price to reflect
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> not allow it.  If you want to paint a scumbag, look at Nikon
> (and Canon, and Pentax and .....)

Sure, Nikon is to blame, and I said they are.

> It's called competition.  If the local guy can't compete, and
> people don't support his store, that's too bad.  It'd be nice if
> that didn't happen, but at some point you have to take off your
> war paint and let reality soak in.

Hey, competition is great.  I was in Best Buy a few weeks ago and they had
the famous 5D tethered to the display case for everyone to fondle.  Sadly,
the clueless and their children sticking their hands where they don't belong
destroyed the innards.  Hey, maybe some unsuspecting fool will get to buy
this 5D as new.  After all, it's new.  A trip through the shrink-wrap tunnel
and nobody will know the difference.  You won't see this total disrespect
for merchandise at your local camera shop.

Rita
cjcampbell - 24 Jul 2006 05:24 GMT
> >> Clue for the clueless, they buy these at the lowest dealer net (below
> >> Camera stores and possibly even B&H) Then raise the price to reflect
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> this 5D as new.  After all, it's new.  A trip through the shrink-wrap tunnel
> and nobody will know the difference.

Eewwww. But seriously, Rita, I have never seen Best Buy sell a display
item as "new." They always mark it as a display item.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 24 Jul 2006 11:08 GMT
>> Hey, competition is great.  I was in Best Buy a few weeks ago and
>> they had the famous 5D tethered to the display case for everyone to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Eewwww. But seriously, Rita, I have never seen Best Buy sell a display
> item as "new." They always mark it as a display item.

I'm very impressed!  Maybe all the lawsuits they had over the years for this
practice helped them get the message?

Rita
Cynicor - 25 Jul 2006 18:06 GMT
>>> Hey, competition is great.  I was in Best Buy a few weeks ago and
>>> they had the famous 5D tethered to the display case for everyone to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'm very impressed!  Maybe all the lawsuits they had over the years for
> this practice helped them get the message?

Well, it's not like Best Buy bought one copy of software and used it
nationwide for the Geek Squad. Oh...wait.
http://www.winternals.com/Company/PressRelease77.aspx

I was in B&H this morning, by the way. The guy I spoke to there said
that they would get an occasional shipment from Nikon of three lenses,
or four D200 kits, and that they'd be gone within 20 minutes - it's been
killing them all summer. They don't even have any 10-pin remote cables
in stock. A lot like what we're seeing. He also said that photography is
a small enough part of Nikon's total product line that the distribution
isn't their primary concern. Which I think is really stupid, because it
makes up 90% of their brand image.

They did have the one 10-pin extension cable I need to complete my GPS
puck wireup before leaving for Scotland on Thursday.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 25 Jul 2006 23:01 GMT
> I was in B&H this morning, by the way. The guy I spoke to there said
> that they would get an occasional shipment from Nikon of three lenses,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the distribution isn't their primary concern. Which I think is really
> stupid, because it makes up 90% of their brand image.

Did you ask him about disproportionably large amount of Nikons going to Best
Buy and Circuit City?  I'm sure if he could have been forthcoming with his
feelings if he were allowed to do so.

Rita
Harry Krause - 25 Jul 2006 23:54 GMT
>> I was in B&H this morning, by the way. The guy I spoke to there said
>> that they would get an occasional shipment from Nikon of three lenses,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Rita

Are you positing that the big box stores are getting Nikons out of
proportion to their sales and numbers of stores?
Cynicor - 26 Jul 2006 01:23 GMT
>> I was in B&H this morning, by the way. The guy I spoke to there said
>> that they would get an occasional shipment from Nikon of three lenses,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Buy and Circuit City?  I'm sure if he could have been forthcoming with his
> feelings if he were allowed to do so.

I did mention that, and he agreed that Nikon was causing a nation-wide
shortage, and screwing the people who actually know what they're doing
by sending stuff to those stores.

I have it timed now so that if I take a particular train in, I get in at
8:50 AM and I can walk over just as B&H is opening, and have the run of
the store for a few minutes. You can talk to the clerks and ask more
questions then.
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 26 Jul 2006 02:08 GMT
>> Did you ask him about disproportionably large amount of Nikons going
>> to Best
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> shortage, and screwing the people who actually know what they're doing
> by sending stuff to those stores.

Yep!  There's lot's of frustration with this at the local shops.  If they
pissed off B&H you know this is serious.

> I have it timed now so that if I take a particular train in, I get in
> at 8:50 AM and I can walk over just as B&H is opening, and have the
> run of the store for a few minutes. You can talk to the clerks and
> ask more questions then.

You're a lucky man.  I would love to go there one day and see what they
have.  It must be nice?  I bet they pass out bibs at the front door to catch
all the drool?

Rita
Jeremy Nixon - 26 Jul 2006 02:43 GMT
> You're a lucky man.  I would love to go there one day and see what they
> have.  It must be nice?  I bet they pass out bibs at the front door to catch
> all the drool?

I am rarely in the city at any time when they're open, but their store is a
sight to be seen, if you're ever there.  It occupies the entire block and
it's kind of like an amusement park.  The conveyer system that moves products
around the store is quite interesting.

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Don Wiss - 04 Aug 2006 01:11 GMT
>I am rarely in the city at any time when they're open, but their store is a
>sight to be seen, if you're ever there.  It occupies the entire block and
>it's kind of like an amusement park.  The conveyer system that moves products
>around the store is quite interesting.

Remember that I have inside pictures of the store starting at:
http://donwiss.com/pictures/ManhattanStores/h0024.htm

Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/> (e-mail link at page bottoms).
cjcampbell - 26 Jul 2006 01:41 GMT
> >> Hey, competition is great.  I was in Best Buy a few weeks ago and
> >> they had the famous 5D tethered to the display case for everyone to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'm very impressed!  Maybe all the lawsuits they had over the years for this
> practice helped them get the message?

And yet, despite all this ill feeling you have for them, you continue
to shop there...
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 26 Jul 2006 02:08 GMT
>> I'm very impressed!  Maybe all the lawsuits they had over the years
>> for this practice helped them get the message?
>
> And yet, despite all this ill feeling you have for them, you continue
> to shop there...

Huh?  Where did I say I was shopping there?  Walking in with a friend and
not buying doesn't constitute "shopping there."

Rita
Cynicor - 26 Jul 2006 02:24 GMT
>>> I'm very impressed!  Maybe all the lawsuits they had over the years
>>> for this practice helped them get the message?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Huh?  Where did I say I was shopping there?  Walking in with a friend
> and not buying doesn't constitute "shopping there."

Whoa! Dude, you just totally shopped at Best Buy!!
cjcampbell - 26 Jul 2006 12:00 GMT
> >> I'm very impressed!  Maybe all the lawsuits they had over the years
> >> for this practice helped them get the message?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Huh?  Where did I say I was shopping there?  Walking in with a friend and
> not buying doesn't constitute "shopping there."

I hope you were in disguise. People might have thought you were
endorsing the place. And what kind of a friend are you to let somebody
shop there? :-)
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 27 Jul 2006 02:12 GMT
>> Huh?  Where did I say I was shopping there?  Walking in with a
>> friend and not buying doesn't constitute "shopping there."
>
> I hope you were in disguise. People might have thought you were
> endorsing the place. And what kind of a friend are you to let somebody
> shop there? :-)

Everyone needs a good cry once in a while.  I haven't cried in a long while
so I thought I'd go to Best Buy for a real tearjerker.  Damned if I didn't
get one.  Seeing a Canon 5D having its glory hole violate in such a manor is
painful in the least.  Granted, it was only a Canon, but nothing or nobody
should be violated in such a manor.  The only reason we went there was to
look at monitors so she can see what it looks like before ordering it
on-line from a reputable dealer at a better price.

Rita
Don Wiss - 18 Jul 2006 10:45 GMT
>Funny you should say that since a friend of mine who uses Nikon is still
>looking for the 18-200, so I checked and found this info...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>TheSourceCC.com - not listed (same as CircuitCity)
>Henrys.com - out of stock

The camera world is a lot bigger than North America.

Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/> (e-mail link at page bottoms).
Bill - 18 Jul 2006 11:16 GMT
>>Funny you should say that since a friend of mine who uses Nikon is still
>>looking for the 18-200, so I checked and found this info...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>The camera world is a lot bigger than North America.

Sure, but is it cost effective to order from the UK,  Japan, etc.?
Don Wiss - 18 Jul 2006 11:51 GMT
>>>Funny you should say that since a friend of mine who uses Nikon is still
>>>looking for the 18-200, so I checked and found this info...
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Sure, but is it cost effective to order from the UK,  Japan, etc.?

We're discussing supply, not price.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
DoN. Nichols - 18 Jul 2006 20:34 GMT
According to Don Wiss  <donwiss@no_spam.com>:

> >>>Funny you should say that since a friend of mine who uses Nikon is still
> >>>looking for the 18-200, so I checked and found this info...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> We're discussing supply, not price.

    What about the problems with warranty repair (or actually *any*
repair -- even out of warranty) with USA Nikon service centers refusing
to work on equipment purchased out-of-country?  If I were going to be
depending on that with a lens that complex, I would want to make sure
that I could get it repaired locally, instead of having to ship it
out-of-country for repairs.  Add in the zoom range of 11.1:1 (which
probably means lots of lens cells shuttling around as you zoom) and the
VR mechanism, added on top of the auto-focus mechanism, and unless the
lens had been around long enough to have a good reliability history, I
would want to make sure that I had a fallback.

    Enjoy,
        DoN.
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Don Wiss - 19 Jul 2006 00:30 GMT
>    What about the problems with warranty repair (or actually *any*
>repair -- even out of warranty) with USA Nikon service centers refusing

I didn't recommend buying a non-US lens. The point is the demand for the
lens is worldwide, and just because they are hard to get in the US doesn't
mean that Nikon isn't cranking them out and selling lots of them.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
Bill - 19 Jul 2006 03:38 GMT
>>    What about the problems with warranty repair (or actually *any*
>>repair -- even out of warranty) with USA Nikon service centers refusing
>
>I didn't recommend buying a non-US lens. The point is the demand for the
>lens is worldwide, and just because they are hard to get in the US doesn't
>mean that Nikon isn't cranking them out and selling lots of them.

Oh, so it's continental discrimination then. I'm gonna call my cousin at
the UN and get this rectified immediately.

:-)
cjcampbell - 18 Jul 2006 06:33 GMT
> Nikon is either having production troubles or they are intentionally limitting
> supply to keep the price point on this lens.  At this point, I am beginning to
> suspect the latter.

Nikon says that all their plants are running at full capacity. This
does not bode well for the introduction of any new products, including
the long rumored D90 and D3, not to mention any new lenses. They can't
produce anything new without taking some other very popular item off
the line.
cjcampbell - 15 Jul 2006 08:58 GMT
> I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
> Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
> have any leads?

I got mine in December from B&H. Just get on the waiting list.
Andrew Koenig - 19 Jul 2006 16:28 GMT
> I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
> Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
> have any leads?

B&H has them in stock today (July 20).
lmcidpe@gmail.com - 19 Jul 2006 16:44 GMT
> > I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
> > Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
> > have any leads?
>
> B&H has them in stock today (July 20).

July 20?... if they were in stock they went pretty fast :(
lmcidpe@gmail.com - 19 Jul 2006 17:40 GMT
> > > I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
> > > Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
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>
> July 20?... if they were in stock they went pretty fast :(

AARRRGGGHHH!!!!...  It is true, they had a few this morning
lmcidpe@gmail.com - 19 Jul 2006 16:44 GMT
> > I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
> > Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
> > have any leads?
>
> B&H has them in stock today (July 20).

July 20?... if they were in stock they went pretty fast :(
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 19 Jul 2006 17:56 GMT
>> I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
>> Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
>> have any leads?
>
> B&H has them in stock today (July 20).

I assume you posted that message via AT&T Worldnet in the USA ... so I think
you mean July 19th?

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Andrew Koenig - 19 Jul 2006 19:52 GMT
> I assume you posted that message via AT&T Worldnet in the USA ... so I
> think
> you mean July 19th?

Yes, that's what I meant.  And I could have sworn I checked the date before
posting, too.  Very odd.

Anyway, they're out of stock again.
DoN. Nichols - 19 Jul 2006 20:25 GMT
According to Andrew Koenig <ark@acm.org>:

> > I've been searching for weeks now, and no vendor carries the 18-200mm
> > Nikkor lens in stock.  Ebay is selling it way overpriced!  Does anyone
> > have any leads?
>
> B&H has them in stock today (July 20).

    Hmm ... since it is only the 19th of July here at this moment, I
guess that I should not be surprised at discovering that they are out of
stock at the moment -- and I should check back tomorrow?

    Or did you post from some other timezone in which it is already
the 20th?

    Enjoy,
        DoN.

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