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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2006HOW IMPORTANT IS "MADE IN"?
Wanna buy a D200... How much of importance is the country it was made in? Any sugestions? "No buys"? > Wanna buy a D200... > How much of importance is the country it was made in? > Any sugestions? "No buys"? Did you not get *any* useful answers in the other NGs you posted to a few days ago?  Signaturelsmft >> Wanna buy a D200... >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? >> Any sugestions? "No buys"? > Did you not get *any* useful answers in the other NGs you posted to a few > days ago? On the face of it you would hope that the quality control would be exactly the same no matter where they were made and so would produce the same product quality. > >> Wanna buy a D200... > >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the same no matter where they were made and so would produce the same > product quality. The Japanese do not have the same rules for products produced in plants in China (or wherever) as they do in Japan. There was a story about this about a month ago that told the history of Japanese production right back to the end of the Second World War. They also have different rules for export versus domestic distribution. From Olympus, the higher end stuff is Japanese, the plastic junk comes from China. >> >> Wanna buy a D200... >> >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > plastic junk comes > from China. I've noticed older Nikon lenses made in Japan (example 50 1.8 AF) are touted as such and bring a premium over the equivalent made in China. Then again, they may not be entirely mechanically equivalent as they learn to squeeze every last penny out of the raw cost of the product. > >> >> Wanna buy a D200... > >> >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > they may not be entirely mechanically equivalent as they learn to squeeze > every last penny out of the raw cost of the product. Comparisons should always be made if possible, but if they were within 20% of the cost of each other, err on the side of caution and go for the Japanese one. I've got two Olympus kit lenses, a 14-45 (Chinese made) and a 40-150 (Japanese). Guess which one works better? > > >> >> Wanna buy a D200... > > >> >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > (Japanese). > Guess which one works better? The Chinese one? Greg > > > >> >> Wanna buy a D200... > > > >> >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Greg Exactly! Just like when the 1DsIII's come out of China....made of plastic. And other fantastic stories. > > > Comparisons should always be made if possible, but if they were within > > > 20% of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Exactly! Cool. The Chinese make some good stuff. Greg > The Japanese do not have the same rules for products produced in plants > in China (or wherever) as they do in Japan. > From Olympus, the higher end stuff is Japanese, the > plastic junk comes > from China. I was very surprised to see "made in Japan" printed on both my Canon EOS-350D (Rebel XT) and the Sigma 17-70mm lens as they're both likely grouped under "consumer products". Please tell us more about those different rules in Japan vs. China. Do they have a stricter quality control in Japan? > > The Japanese do not have the same rules for products produced in plants > > in China (or wherever) as they do in Japan. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Please tell us more about those different rules in Japan vs. China. Do > they have a stricter quality control in Japan? Only for products exported. This comes from a plan they put in-place decades ago to change the perception of Japan as a junk producer (think early 1960s). They recently re-invigorated that mandate in order to differentiate themselves from things like Taiwanese or Chinese production. Japan is remolding itself as the "Germany" of the East, in-terms of products. It's a good move on their part. There will always be a market for quality. >>>The Japanese do not have the same rules for products produced in plants >>>in China (or wherever) as they do in Japan. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > their part. > There will always be a market for quality. "Germany of the East"? That didn't work out too well the last time they tried it. > Wanna buy a D200... > How much of importance is the country it was made in? > Any sugestions? "No buys"? How important do you want it to be? D200's are made in Japan. Signaturehttp://www.nikongear.com/ > D200's are made in Japan. All D200s are made in Thailand from day 1. As are the D2Hs ans the D2Xs. Tom >> Wanna buy a D200... >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? >> Any sugestions? "No buys"? The country of manufacture generally isn't a big deal these days since any respected company will most certainly have quality control levels that must be maintained by the manufacturing plant. Sometimes the first production run has a few glitches, but other than that, quality should be the same no matter where it's made. That's why so many companies are not getting items made overseas where it's much cheaper to produce. >How important do you want it to be? >D200's are made in Japan. I thought all recent Nikon bodies were made in Thailand. My friends D70s was definitely made there and I know at least some of his Nikkor lenses were too (D70s and 18-70 are sitting on my desk). My Canon XT was made in Japan, but I could care less where it's made as long as it works as advertised. > Wanna buy a D200... > How much of importance is the country it was made in? > Any sugestions? "No buys"? I don't know how good or how bad of the QC by Nikon at Thailand. But my experience with almost all Pentax DSLRs made in Philipinees and almost all Pentax DA/DFA digital lenses made in Vietnam are indeed very terrible. YMMV anyway. For more read of the story, see:- http://www.geocities.com/ricehigh/A_Letter_to_the_CEO_of_Pentax_Corporation.html All in all, I think stuff that marked with "Made in Japan" label is simply a guarrantee of quality, generally speaking. RiceHigh http://www.geocities.com/ricehigh I must have the best outcome then. My D200 was made in Thiland, Boxed and intended for the Japanese market, Purchased by me from the Chinese marketplace. So, if I get this right, I have up to the minute construction techniques and skills from Thiland, A tweak in quality control for the Japanese target market, and as I purchased from the Chineese marketplace , I got one hell of a deal in the UK!! Lifes too complicated!!!!!! But my D200 is abolutely perfect in every way. I think its a true partnership!!!! :-))) >> Wanna buy a D200... >> How much of importance is the country it was made in? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > RiceHigh > http://www.geocities.com/ricehigh > All in all, I think stuff that marked with "Made in Japan" label is > simply a guarrantee of quality, generally speaking. > > RiceHigh > http://www.geocities.com/ricehigh I also tend to lean towards "Made in Japan," but that might be in my head. I know that my favorite lenses are made in Japan, but the final result is up to the manufacturer, from design to materials to QC. Somebody will always do an objective review of every lens made, and you can make your choices that way. Part of the unknown is how well will the lens hold up over the years, and for that question I've always found that those lenses produced by the major companies (Canon and Nikon) often outlast lenses made by Tamron and others. Remember, it's not only glass but a lot of mechanics as well. My old Nikon lenses from the 60's and 70's are still going strong and still capture great images. Just not as convenient as today's newer lenses. |
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