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DD - 11 Jul 2006 13:53 GMT

...and I am in awe!

What a great camera! I can't wait to get it home and check it out
properly. Been reading the manual most of the day and it looks like I am
going to have to pay close attention to what is in there if I want this
thing to give me some good output. I am so chuffed about being able to
use my manual focus lenses on a DSLR without hand metering now (and with
a much better focussing screen than my D70).

The speed is unbelievable.

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Smith Jr - 12 Jul 2006 00:32 GMT

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Ed Smith"I came into the world with nothing and I still have most of it"

> ...and I am in awe!
>
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> The speed is unbelievable.

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C J Southern - 12 Jul 2006 02:43 GMT

> ...and I am in awe!

I'm holding out for Canon's 22MP 1DSMK2 replacement due out in Jan / Feb 07

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Bill - 12 Jul 2006 03:22 GMT

>> ...and I am in awe!
>
>I'm holding out for Canon's 22MP 1DSMK2 replacement due out in Jan / Feb 07
>:)

Where do you get your erroneous info?

It's going to be the Canon 42mp 1Ds Mk III full frame out in 3 weeks, 2
days, and 13 hours.

Orders will only be taken if you have your first-born with you.

Sheesh...

;-)

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C J Southern - 13 Jul 2006 05:12 GMT

> >> ...and I am in awe!
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> ;-)

Box of chocolate fishes says I'm right - you on for it?

(I feel it's only fair to warn you that I've won quite a few in the past
(which accounted for an expanding waiteline for a while!)

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Bill - 13 Jul 2006 06:05 GMT

>Box of chocolate fishes says I'm right - you on for it?

I'd make that bet if I had some chocolate to coat the Catostomidae, but
I'm afraid I'm not a big chocolate eater.

:-)

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DD - 12 Jul 2006 06:31 GMT

> > ...and I am in awe!
>
> I'm holding out for Canon's 22MP 1DSMK2 replacement due out in Jan / Feb 07
> :)

Make sure you hold your wallet out very far, and your chequebook, and
all your credit cards. Canon needs your money for R&D.

22MP is ridiculous.

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C J Southern - 13 Jul 2006 05:12 GMT

> Make sure you hold your wallet out very far, and your chequebook, and
> all your credit cards. Canon needs your money for R&D.
>
> 22MP is ridiculous.

So you're saying they won't be releasing a 22MP model in the next 12 months?

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DD - 13 Jul 2006 06:32 GMT

> > Make sure you hold your wallet out very far, and your chequebook, and
> > all your credit cards. Canon needs your money for R&D.
> >
> > 22MP is ridiculous.
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> So you're saying they won't be releasing a 22MP model in the next 12 months?

No, I'm saying that putting 22MP into an SLR based on 35mm technology
with 35mm lenses is ridiculous. But I'm sure there will be a boatload of
"photographers" who believe they simply can't do without it and will pay
whatever Canon asks just so that they can say they got the biggest and
the best.

I'm betting that it comes in at close to $10k.

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Mick Anderson - 13 Jul 2006 10:52 GMT

>> > Make sure you hold your wallet out very far, and your chequebook, and
>> > all your credit cards. Canon needs your money for R&D.
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> I'm betting that it comes in at close to $10k.

What usually happens in these situations is that the new model comes on the
market for a short time at a premium price - then after a few months drops
to the price of the old model (which is either reduced further in price or
removed).

Personally, I'll take all the MP I can get - it gives me more options when
it comes to cropping (eg I may be able to do with a 200mm lens that may
previously have required a 300mm or 400mm)

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DD - 13 Jul 2006 12:21 GMT

> What usually happens in these situations is that the new model comes on the
> market for a short time at a premium price - then after a few months drops
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> it comes to cropping (eg I may be able to do with a 200mm lens that may
> previously have required a 300mm or 400mm)

I prefer to get what I want in camera. I hardly ever crop an image.

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C J Southern - 14 Jul 2006 01:53 GMT

> > What usually happens in these situations is that the new model comes on the
> > market for a short time at a premium price - then after a few months drops
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> I prefer to get what I want in camera. I hardly ever crop an image.

Sounds like you've also got all the lenses you need as well.

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DD - 14 Jul 2006 06:54 GMT

> > I prefer to get what I want in camera. I hardly ever crop an image.
>
> Sounds like you've also got all the lenses you need as well.

You can never have enough lenses, but if you are spending copious
amounts of money on a rapidly depreciating asset (i.e. a DSLR with 22MP)
simply to use increased resolution as a substitute for good long glass,
you are making a huge mistake.

Trust me on this one, it would be far better to invest in glass and go
for a cheaper DSLR body with lower resolution.

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Siggy - 14 Jul 2006 13:36 GMT

>>> I prefer to get what I want in camera. I hardly ever crop an image.
>> Sounds like you've also got all the lenses you need as well.
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> Trust me on this one, it would be far better to invest in glass and go
> for a cheaper DSLR body with lower resolution.

But how does that help you print big?

My main interest in that concept is the one of noise and reduced DR. How
can you fit more pixels into the same area without decreasing the size
of the pixel without simultaneously increasing noise whilst decreasing
full well capacity?

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