Hi all,
I am considering buying my first DSLR, and as I have a Nikon FM2, to
reuse the lenses I have, I am considering either the Nikon D50 or D70s.
>From other posts, I learned that in doing so, you will have to manually
adjust the exposure (or use an external meter).
So, I took my lense Tamron AF 24-70 mm, F3.3.-5.6, that I used with my
FM2, and tested in both D50 and D70s at a local Best Buy. I could not
make it work. Even though I set to manual (and also the focus to
manua), both cameras showed "F error"
What could be wrong? Everybody says that you CAN use a manual lense on
a D0 or D70s, as long as you calculate the exposure yourself. I am
concerned that my other lense is also Nikon compatible, a Vivitar
Series I 70-210
I also have a 2x converter.
Please let me know your experience using manual Nikon compatible lenses
on D70s.
Thanks,
Francisco.
David Dyer-Bennet - 10 Jul 2006 03:32 GMT
> I am considering buying my first DSLR, and as I have a Nikon FM2, to
> reuse the lenses I have, I am considering either the Nikon D50 or D70s.
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> make it work. Even though I set to manual (and also the focus to
> manua), both cameras showed "F error"
An AF lens should meter on a D70 or a D70. It's the older manual
focus lenses (the AI and AIS lenses) that will not meter on the
amateur bodies. I used such old lenses with my Fuji S2 a lot; they
don't meter (and of course don't autofocus, either; they were never AF
lenses), but they're still quite usable for me (but I've worked with
cameras without built-in meters before; I'm used to keeping an eye on
the light and adjusting, and making quick checks of the histogram
makes it very easy to keep the exposure on track).
Does that lens have an aperture ring? If so, make sure it's set to
minimum aperture (largest number, probably f/16 or f/22). There's
probably some kind of lock to keep it there, too. This is necessary
to enable aperture control from the camera body. I'm not certain this
is the right answer; I don't know if getting that wrong on those
models results in that error (obviously I don't have those exact
models to play with).
> What could be wrong? Everybody says that you CAN use a manual lense on
> a D0 or D70s, as long as you calculate the exposure yourself. I am
> concerned that my other lense is also Nikon compatible, a Vivitar
> Series I 70-210
I've used that lens on a Fuji S2 and I believe on the D200
successfully (no metering on the S2). So it should be okay. I've got
Tokina, Tamron, and Sigma AF lenses, as well as Nikon MF and AF lenses
I use. I've never had a compatibility issue with Nikon cameras and
lenses (though some exist, the old 21mm version that needs mirror
lockup, for example, it sticks in too far to be used with the mirror
down).

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Sheldon - 10 Jul 2006 04:29 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Francisco.
If I put an older AI lens on my D70 I also get an "F" error. That's because
the camera cannot read the aperture of your lens or couple to the meter.
The aperture will have to be set manually using the aperture ring on the
lens, and the lens will have to be focused manually. The camera should show
focus lock, however, as a green dot, even though you have to do it manually.
Shutter speed is controlled by the wheel on the camera body. If the camera
is on and set to M you should be able to take a photo. I have several older
AI non AF lenses that work just fine in M mode.
What surprises me is that most auto focus 35mm lenses will couple to the
camera and work automatically.
J. Clarke - 10 Jul 2006 05:19 GMT
> Hi all,
>
> I am considering buying my first DSLR, and as I have a Nikon FM2, to
> reuse the lenses I have, I am considering either the Nikon D50 or D70s.
>>From other posts, I learned that in doing so, you will have to manually
> adjust the exposure (or use an external meter).
Consider a Canon. Works fine in stop-down mode with older manual-focus
Nikon lenses with a suitable adapter.
> So, I took my lense Tamron AF 24-70 mm, F3.3.-5.6, that I used with my
> FM2, and tested in both D50 and D70s at a local Best Buy. I could not
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>
> Francisco.

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cjcampbell - 10 Jul 2006 09:54 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> concerned that my other lense is also Nikon compatible, a Vivitar
> Series I 70-210
You can use an AI or AI-S lens, but it will not autofocus, of course.
Also, the autofocus light will not work with a reflex lens. The lens
must also have a maximum aperture of at least 5.6 for the focus
confirmation light, so an old, slow reflex lens is just not going to be
very useful. Aperture priority (A), Shutter priority (S), Program (P),
and Auto (A) modes are unavailable. You will have to set aperture
manually. You will also have to turn off the "Auto" ISO mode in the
menu and turn the M/AF switch to M. My guess is that you still had
Auto ISO set in the camera and possibly also had the M/AF switch wrong.
With an AI-P lens you have to have a maximum aperture of 5.6 for the
focus confirmation to work in the viewfinder and it will not autofocus.
Also, you cannot use 3D matrix metering, so the meter will not use
distance in its calculation.
Your Tamron should work fine, but I am not sure I would trust the
doubler.
> I also have a 2x converter.
fjcarden@hotmail.com - 13 Jul 2006 01:46 GMT
Thank you guys for your answers.
I went back to Best Buy. I manually set the aperture ring of the lense
to F22, and I was able to take a picture this time. The drawback, is
that with any other setting (F16, F11, F8, F5.6) the Nikon D50 (or
D70s, same thing) is unable to take a picture.
Regards,
Francisco.
> > Hi all,
> >
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>
> > I also have a 2x converter.
Rina - 13 Jul 2006 03:25 GMT
You set the aperture with the camera, not the lens.
Leave the lens locked at F22, set the camera to aperture priority, then use
the wheel on the camera to set the aperture.
If you would go to a real camera shop the employee there should be well
enough acquainted with Nikon lenses and cameras to give you some real
assistance.
Rina
> Thank you guys for your answers.
>
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>>
>> > I also have a 2x converter.
cjcampbell - 15 Jul 2006 08:46 GMT
> Thank you guys for your answers.
>
> I went back to Best Buy. I manually set the aperture ring of the lense
> to F22, and I was able to take a picture this time. The drawback, is
> that with any other setting (F16, F11, F8, F5.6) the Nikon D50 (or
> D70s, same thing) is unable to take a picture.
Right. The camera sets the aperture, but for that to work all lenses
have to have the aperture set at the smallest opening. The newest
lenses don't even have aperture rings for that reason. You just have to
learn to use the camera to set aperture instead of the lens.