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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2006d70s can't defeat flash in manual mode?
i swear i was able to defeat the built in flash in manual mode before but i can't now? any ideas? Thanks, onanov I figured this out--nevermind. >i swear i was able to defeat the built in flash in manual mode before but i >can't now? any ideas? > > Thanks, > > onanov I was going to suggest super glue but will keep that to myself now. ;-) >I figured this out--nevermind. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> onanov > i swear i was able to defeat the built in flash in manual mode before but i > can't now? any ideas? What the hell is "defeat the flash"? Do you mean switch it onto manual mode? > i swear i was able to defeat the built in flash in manual mode before but i > can't now? any ideas? If it's like the D50 you have to be in Auto mode to turn the flash off. >> i swear i was able to defeat the built in flash in manual mode before but i >> can't now? any ideas? > >If it's like the D50 you have to be in Auto mode to turn the flash off. ??? I believe you mean the other way around. On my older D70 the flash will pop up automatically if needed in Auto mode. Set to P-mode if you still want automatic exposure mode, but don't want the flash popping up on it's own. You control whether or not it's used by leaving it down or raising it yourself. -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html > >> i swear i was able to defeat the built in flash in manual mode before but i > >> can't now? any ideas? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > own. You control whether or not it's used by leaving it down or raising it > yourself. The D50 decides if you need the flash, it will pop it up automatically (in Auto, portrait, child, macro and night portrait modes), unless you change the setting to specifically turn the flash off. According to the D50 manual, you cannot turn off the flash in P, A, S or M modes, which is presumably what the original poster meant by "defeat the flash".  Signature-Take out Ron to reply- My random photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boggissimo/ >The D50 decides if you need the flash, it will pop it up automatically >(in Auto, portrait, child, macro and night portrait modes), unless you >change the setting to specifically turn the flash off. According to the >D50 manual, you cannot turn off the flash in P, A, S or M modes, which >is presumably what the original poster meant by "defeat the flash". Please point that specific page out. I can find no such mention in fine manual for the D50, nor the manuals for my D70 and D200. I have a hard time believing the D50 would be so different. -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html > >The D50 decides if you need the flash, it will pop it up automatically > >(in Auto, portrait, child, macro and night portrait modes), unless you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > manual for the D50, nor the manuals for my D70 and D200. I have a hard time > believing the D50 would be so different. On the D50 manual PDF I downloaded from Nikon USA, it's on page 36. It explains the different flash sync modes and the cycle of what happens when you hold the flash button and rotate the command dial. Signature-Take out Ron to reply- My random photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boggissimo/ >On the D50 manual PDF I downloaded from Nikon USA, it's on page 36. It >explains the different flash sync modes and the cycle of what happens >when you hold the flash button and rotate the command dial. That's the flash synch modes, not flash modes. If you never manually raise the flash in P,A,S,M it will never fire, period. How much more off does it need to be? -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html > >On the D50 manual PDF I downloaded from Nikon USA, it's on page 36. It > >explains the different flash sync modes and the cycle of what happens [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the flash in P,A,S,M it will never fire, period. How much more off does it > need to be? Ah, I see what you mean. It depends what you call an "auto" mode I suppose (like in one of your other replies in this thread, you said "There's no need for this in any of the auto modes as the flash will never automatically pop up", but it will pop up in AUTO mode!). Signature-Take out Ron to reply- My random photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boggissimo/ >Ah, I see what you mean. It depends what you call an "auto" mode I >suppose (like in one of your other replies in this thread, you said >"There's no need for this in any of the auto modes as the flash will >never automatically pop up", but it will pop up in AUTO mode!). Auto mode is exactly that choosing AUTO on the mode dial on the D50/D70(s).To be honest I've never used this or any of the scene modes on my D70 and thankfully this stuff doesn't exist on my D200. I've found all it mainly does is confuse people, going all the way back to my CP-990 and CP-5700 days. I checked the thread and can't find where I may have stated this incorrectly as you mention. If I did it was unintentionally incorrect.. -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html > ??? I believe you mean the other way around. On my older D70 the flash will > pop up automatically if needed in Auto mode. Set to P-mode if you still > want automatic exposure mode, but don't want the flash popping up on it's > own. You control whether or not it's used by leaving it down or raising it > yourself. Nope, with the D50 if you go to Auto Mode and press the Flash Button you get a thumbwheel menu on the upper LCD one of which options is Disable Flash. Pushing the Flash Button in any other mode pops the flash up. >> ??? I believe you mean the other way around. On my older D70 the flash will >> pop up automatically if needed in Auto mode. Set to P-mode if you still [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Disable Flash. Pushing the Flash Button in any other mode pops the >flash up. But you're not seeing the forest for the trees. There's no need for this in any of the auto modes as the flash will never automatically pop up. If you don't want to use flash regardless of the exposure in P,A,S, or M modes just don't raise it. -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html >>> ??? I believe you mean the other way around. On my older D70 the flash will >>> pop up automatically if needed in Auto mode. Set to P-mode if you still [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >don't want to use flash regardless of the exposure in P,A,S, or M modes >just don't raise it. I think some people are confusing automatic modes with the program exposure modes on the Mode Dial. In the automatic modes (Auto, Portrait, etc) the camera will decide if the flash will be used or not, and if needed it will "pop-up" the flash by itself. Canon and Nikon both work the same way with the program modes (P,A,S,M) not using the built-in flash unless you specifically activate it by tapping the flash "pop-up" button on the camera body. Like Ed said, if you use the P,A,S,M modes then the flash is effectively disabled or turned off. The flash will not fire until you hit that button to activate it. >I think some people are confusing automatic modes with the program >exposure modes on the Mode Dial. Well on the D50/D70(s) the auto mode is marked AUTO on the mode wheel. At least that's what I mean and infer others meaning when they say auto mode. -- Ed Ruf (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html |
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