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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2006Any Mac users w/EOS-350D
Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best for my setup. I'm using a Mac (15" 1.67GHz Powerbook G4, MacOS 10.4.7, standard 512 Mbytes RAM). I've installed all the Canon software that came with the camera, but I don't have time to test everything to find out what's best, so for pictures storage I'm currently using iPhoto (5.0.4) together with "iPhoto buddy" (freeware) which allows me to create several different libraries meaning that I've created an entirely separate EOS-350D library separating it from my web-images, desktop patterns and everything else. The Canon equivelant is "Imagebrowser", isn't it? But it keeps crashing on me. If I open it then press on the "open" triangle next to the "pictures" folder (in order to open it and select images and/or sub-folders) it crashes. Opening other folders works fine. I also have Photoshop elements 2.0, so this would probably beat that Canon program which I haven't really bothered looked much at yet. > I also have Photoshop elements 2.0, so this would probably beat that > Canon program which I haven't really bothered looked much at yet. Also try Lightroom while it's a free beta from Adobe: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/ Use Photoshp Elements for editing.  SignatureRebecca Ore > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best > for my setup. > I'm using a Mac (15" 1.67GHz Powerbook G4, MacOS 10.4.7, standard 512 > Mbytes RAM). Buy more ram, it'll be much nicer. > I've installed all the Canon software that came with the camera, but I > don't have time to test everything to find out what's best, so for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I also have Photoshop elements 2.0, so this would probably beat that > Canon program which I haven't really bothered looked much at yet. I'm not a fan of iPhoto, and have been using iView media (pro version), however thats just been bought out by Satan, so I had another look at iPhoto 6 last night, and initial impressions were I still much preferred iView. Before iView I've just been keeping everything organised in finder (and still do), use Image Capture to download pictures from the memory card, and Photoshop for editing. Luckily got a copy of CS but if I was spending my own money it would be on a later version of PS Elements. It's worth having a look at Lightroom while it is under Beta, be interesting to see at what price point it comes out. SignatureJon B Above email address IS valid. <http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs. > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I also have Photoshop elements 2.0, so this would probably beat that > Canon program which I haven't really bothered looked much at yet. First I would strongly suggest buying more RAM for your Powerbook - that will help greatly with any photo related activity. RAM is relatively cheap these days - I'd install as much as it will support. Second, if Canon software is anything like Pentax software, and based on what I've read from Canon and Nikon users, I'd probably not even bother to install Imagebrowser. Camera makers just don't seem to have a knack for writing good software. I'm fairly happy with iPhoto 5 for organizing and browsing. iPhoto 6 is supposed to be a big improvement and there are other good browsers available. For editing and converting raw, I'm very happy with Elements 3. It's a good and cheap upgrade from Elements 2. SignatureOne is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can not grasp. - Ed Wood > First I would strongly suggest buying more RAM for your Powerbook - that > will help greatly with any photo related activity. RAM is relatively > cheap these days - I'd install as much as it will support. Yup, it's on my "stuff to spend my money on" list. That is, after an additional lens, flash, a polarizing filter, a camera bag, an additional memory card and perhaps an additional battery. Oh, and an external hard drive for the Mac. Too much to buy, too little money :-( > Second, if Canon software is anything like Pentax software, and based on > what I've read from Canon and Nikon users, I'd probably not even bother > to install Imagebrowser. Camera makers just don't seem to have a knack > for writing good software. Looks like it. I've given up on even trying Canon ImageBrowser. It's just plain trashcan material, so that's where it's gone now. Digital photo professional on the other hand looks like useful editing software for RAW files, so I'm going to keep that one for now. Photostitch works very well, though the user-interface isn't your typical Mac user-friendly, but I've successfully made two very nice panorama pics. > I'm fairly happy with iPhoto 5 for organizing and browsing. iPhoto 6 is > supposed to be a big improvement and there are other good browsers > available. For editing and converting raw, I'm very happy with Elements > 3. It's a good and cheap upgrade from Elements 2. So there are essential features in version 3 that isn't available in Photoshop Elements 2? I don't really care about software being "obsolete" as long as it does the job, and I feel like I haven't really scratched the surface of it yet. As for iPhoto... "Iphoto buddy" seems very useful for making different libraries (I assume my EOS-350D images will take up a lot of disk space), but I believe I'm using iPhoto in a very cumbersome way. What I do is press the "Import" button when I'm asked if I want to import my images. Then all those images show up "last roll", so I create a new library with the current date and finally copy all of those images (from "last roll") to the new library. I wish there was a more automated way of doing things -is there? On 6/30/06 7:03 AM, Arild P. posted the following: > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best > for my setup. > I'm using a Mac (15" 1.67GHz Powerbook G4, MacOS 10.4.7, standard 512 > Mbytes RAM). More RAM, a Gig or so, asap, regardless of your ultimate software choice. > I've installed all the Canon software that came with the camera, but I > don't have time to test everything to find out what's best, so for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I also have Photoshop elements 2.0, so this would probably beat that > Canon program which I haven't really bothered looked much at yet. Upgrade that; or simply do a 30 day free trial. I use iPhoto for slide shows and some web stuff, but not much else, preferring the full Photoshop, which if you get good with Elements, is a nice path. Also try Lightroom, currently in Beta, mac only. I like it, but just am not used to its interface yet. SignatureJohn McWilliams > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best > for my setup. > I'm using a Mac (15" 1.67GHz Powerbook G4, MacOS 10.4.7, standard 512 > Mbytes RAM). You could try installing the GIMP or one of its variants (I have GIMPshop which is a skin to make the GIMP menus more like Photoshop). If you want to work with raw files you'll also want to install UFraw. Get googling for the links :-P Signature-Take out Ron to reply- My random photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boggissimo/ > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best > for my setup. > I'm using a Mac (15" 1.67GHz Powerbook G4, MacOS 10.4.7, standard 512 > Mbytes RAM). I have a 20D (similar to the XT) and use a PowerMac G4 1.25gHz running OS X 10.4.7. I use iPhoto 6.0.4. I have had little use for the Canon applications. Signature:) JR PowerMac G4 MDD 1.25 SP Mac OS X 10.4.7 > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best > for my setup. > I'm using a Mac (15" 1.67GHz Powerbook G4, MacOS 10.4.7, standard 512 > Mbytes RAM). Hey, off the subject, but while I've got you here--is a G3 worth $150. I think I'll have to buy an OS and all the software, too, but I can get one at that price right now, and I'm considering it. Thanks. SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com > is a G3 worth $150. Possibly. Get precise details and specs and research it at http://www.everymac.com Signature:) JR >> is a G3 worth $150. > > Possibly. Get precise details and specs and research it at > > http://www.everymac.com Thank you, that looks like a great resource. SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com On the subject of EOS-350D and Mac... What happens when you connect the camera to the computer with the help of the USB cable that came with the camera, then turn the camera on? On my Mac, iPhoto starts up in a matter of seconds and asks me if I want to import so and so many photos. But there should be a desktop icon for the camera as well. Do any of you get a desktop icon which contains the CompactFlash card, or is it missing on your setups too? With another camera (a Nikon point-and-shoot), iPhoto starts up in the same way, but I also get a (generic white "NO_NAME") icon on the desktop. And on my Windows PC the EOS-350D shows up as yet another storage device. Another things, what's the "PC connection" setting for? the EOS-350D should be set to use "PTP" for transfers, shouldn't it? > On the subject of EOS-350D and Mac... > What happens when you connect the camera to the computer with the help > of the USB cable that came with the camera, then turn the camera on? > On my Mac, iPhoto starts up in a matter of seconds and asks me if I > want to import so and so many photos. A long time ago I told iPhoto to quit starting-up when I plug a card into the reader - or my 20D into the USB/computer. I Preview the images, deleting the rejects, before importing them into iPhoto. > But there should be a desktop icon for the camera as well. Should be? I'm not so sure. I can't get it to mount on my desktop set to either Normal or PTP. > Do any of you get a desktop icon which contains the CompactFlash card, > or is it missing on your setups too? MIA here. > With another camera (a Nikon point-and-shoot), iPhoto starts up in the > same way, but I also get a (generic white "NO_NAME") icon on the > desktop. Well, what do you expect? It's a Nikon! [ducking] <VBG> > And on my Windows PC the EOS-350D shows up as yet another storage > device. That's STILL not enough to get me to switch OSes. :) > Another things, what's the "PC connection" setting for? Dunno. Don't have one on my 20D (same processor as your XT). > the EOS-350D should be set to use "PTP" for transfers, shouldn't it? I suppose I could RFTM again, but it makes no difference on my setup. Using either Normal (my usual Communication setting) or PTP, my camera shows up on the Source pane in iPhoto. I do recall, however, that it DID make a difference when trying the same thing on my friends Linux system. I recall PTP was required to get his system to recognize the device (camera) and grab the pics. Signature:) JR PowerMac G4 MDD 1.25 SP Mac OS X 10.4.7 > On the subject of EOS-350D and Mac... > What happens when you connect the camera to the computer with the help [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > same way, but I also get a (generic white "NO_NAME") icon on the > desktop. It depends on the device and how it handles it, I don't think the drive icon pops up for either of my Canons [1] if I connect them to the mac, but the card in the reader does. Some Fuji point and shoot did at the office last week, I don't think a Nikon P&S I had connected a few months ago did... [1] D30 & G2 SignatureJon B Above email address IS valid. <http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs. > > On the subject of EOS-350D and Mac... > > Do any of you get a desktop icon which contains the CompactFlash card, > > or is it missing on your setups too? > It depends on the device and how it handles it, I don't think the drive > icon pops up for either of my Canons [1] if I connect them to the mac, > but the card in the reader does. Some Fuji point and shoot did at the > office last week, I don't think a Nikon P&S I had connected a few months > ago did... Thanks for confirming that the same thing is happening at your end. I finally found out what and why. Canon and Apple have in joint effort set things up deliberately to *not* have an icon pop up on the desktop. This is to make it more user-friendly since the user doesn't have to worry about unmounting/ejecting the camera before unplugging. So there we have it. No need to worry about a corrupt operating system for my part :-) > > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that price right now, and I'm considering it. > Thanks. (Please note I'm guessing slightly as I'm uk and doing lose pound - dollar conversions) Beige G3? Nope, $10 Blue & White Tower? Nope probably $100 iMac G3? for a late spec 500 or 600 then maybe, 400mhz would be pushing it I'd guess, early 350mhz no firewire etc would be sub $100 I'd say. Tray loader, definately under $100 nowadays iBook G3 then yes, even for a 'tonka', dual usb white iBooks prob fetch over double that. You can get a G4 tower for around $150 dollars, only be around the 400-500mhz but will outperform any of the above, cheaper to upgrade, uses bog standard VGA monitor connection, usb keyboard/mouse, so for experimentation you could hide one under the desk next to your standard PC desktop and just have one set of accessories on the desk. SignatureJon B Above email address IS valid. <http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs. > Having recently bought a Canon EOS-350D (which I'm slowly getting the > hang of) I'm wondering what kind of software solution would be the best > for my setup. > I'm using a Mac (15" 1.67GHz Powerbook G4, MacOS 10.4.7, standard 512 > Mbytes RAM). Arild- I also have a 1.67 GHz PB G4. It came with an OEM copy of GraphicConverter, which can be updated over the net. I don't do a lot of graphics manipulation, so GraphicConverter meets most of my needs. I've never installed the Canon software, and transfer photos to the Mac using a USB adapter. Unless you need the organizing capability of iPhoto or the manipulation capability of Photoshop, you may already be set. Fred |
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