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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2006Digital SLR that can dump to a USB drive
Hi all I have been wondering if there is a Digital SLR that can dump straight onto a USB drive without need for a PC interface - to explain, we were out at a party and someone was trying to offload some of their pics onto another storage media so they could take more. they didn't want to lose any but the CF card was full ....... got me wondering - especially in the situation where another person might immediately want a copy of the images taken and there is no PC access. this was the case the other night, as I borrowed the camera and shot off some pics which I will be waiting geological time to get. thanks Steve > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > camera and shot off some pics which I will be waiting geological time to > get. Not exactly as portable, and I'm not sure if it can function without a PC, but there are external hard drives with built in card readers, eg: http://tinyurl.com/jsjzt Alternatively, I wonder if the printing direct from the camera function could be exploited? If you had a suitable cable to connect the camera to another USB drive.....probably wouldn't work, but at least that would "send" the data out of the camera. (D50 has this, not sure about other cameras).  Signature-Take out Ron to reply- My random photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boggissimo/ > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > camera and shot off some pics which I will be waiting geological time to > get. There's a photo viewer/storage thing here which looks like it would do the job......for $400..... http://tinyurl.com/en336 Signature-Take out Ron to reply- My random photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boggissimo/ Why not just stick a USB External CF Reader in your camera bag? >Why not just stick a USB External CF Reader in your camera bag? Because those are useless unless you also pack a computer? As others have pointed out, you can get stand-alone hard drive storage units which can directly read memory cards. > >Why not just stick a USB External CF Reader in your camera bag? > > Because those are useless unless you also pack a computer? > > As others have pointed out, you can get stand-alone hard > drive storage units which can directly read memory cards. You can - at considerable cost. If one has the $$$ for those kinds of things then one may just as well buy a bigger CF card in the first place. The external reader is only a few dollars, and you don't need to pack a pc - you only need access to one. May not work for you, but it's never been a problem for me. > > >Why not just stick a USB External CF Reader in your camera bag? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You can - at considerable cost. If one has the $$$ for those kinds of things > then one may just as well buy a bigger CF card in the first place. I use an 'image tank', a Vosonic X's Drive with a 40 GB laptop (2½-inch) drive installed, and four card slots to take most cards commonly used, has usb2 connection to a computer, and I can preview the images on the built-in screen. I use it for my CF cards and my wife's SD cards. Cost about the same as a couple 4 GB CF cards, but 10 times the storage. Costwise a no-brainer. Colin D. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> >Why not just stick a USB External CF Reader in your camera bag? >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > never been > a problem for me. I bought a 30 GB Cintre OTG new for $ 80.00. That's not too considerable a cost for 30 GB of storage. > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve USB bridge, I believe Delkin has one. http://tinyurl.com/pv2vo There are other alternatives. > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Steve Yes, it can be done onto a device like this http://www.supergooddeal.com/Cintre_DATASync_USB_2_0_OTG_On_The_Go_pocket_siz_p/ hs40otg.htm. This unit has a USB host so it can recognize cameras on one condition: the camera does not require a driver in order for a PC to recognize it. If you have to install drivers onto a PC in order for it to recognize a camera, then it will not work with this unit. You can connect a card reader to this unit and download the files from the memory card onto the storage unit. Thanks everyone for the info and assistance looks like a portable HDD/Card Reader combo is the way to go - if I chuck one in my car, I will almost always be able to dump stuff from a CF Card etc. onto it - am just going to check that these things will read a USB drive as well and it will basically do it all Steve >> Hi all >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > reader to this unit and download the files from the memory card onto the > storage unit. > Thanks everyone for the info and assistance > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > etc. onto it - am just going to check that these things will read a USB > drive as well and it will basically do it all Take a look at <http://www.archos.com>. They have a number of devices that will do what you want and a lot of other useful stuff besides. Look particularly at the PMA-400, which is Linux-based and exceptionally flexible but limited to 30 gig (hardware limit, not OS) or the AV500 which is less flexible (it's based on Windows CE or whatever they're calling it this week) but has 100 gig of storage. A little bigger than an iPod and do most of what an iPod does, with reports that the sound quality is significantly better. Of course 400 bucks will buy a lot of CFs. > Steve > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Yes, it can be done onto a device like this http://www.supergooddeal.com/Cintre_DATASync_USB_2_0_OTG_On_The_Go_pocket_siz_p/ hs40otg.htm. >> This unit has a USB host so it can recognize cameras on one condition: >> the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> reader to this unit and download the files from the memory card onto the >> storage unit. Signature--John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) I've been wondering about the same thing. But I'd be a little worried about a hard drive for storing all my valuable photos when travelling. What if it crashes, gets stolen... gets full? I've started shooting RAW+JPG, and I'm sure something like that would fill up pretty quickly, so what do you do then? I'd feel a lot more comfortable transferring my photos over to DVD-Rs, making two (or more) copies where I'd keep one with me, send one copy home and possibly have a third copy somewhere else. But how do you burn DVDs (or CDs) on the go? Are there portable DVD burners that allow you to burn without the need of a computer? And would such a burner recognize *all* my files on the compact-flash card? I'd hate it if it would only read my JPG files and leave out my RAW files because it couldn't recognize them as valid digital camera files. According to Arild P. <no-spam2@lycos.com>: > I've been wondering about the same thing. > But I'd be a little worried about a hard drive for storing all my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > But how do you burn DVDs (or CDs) on the go? Are there portable DVD > burners that allow you to burn without the need of a computer? Not that I know of. There are laptops with CD-ROM burners, and I think also ones with DVD-ROM burners now. The one danger for laptops these days is the publicity given for the personnel databases stolen with laptops (several recently), giving thieves the feeling that *any* laptop would be a bonanza. > And would such a burner recognize *all* my files on the compact-flash > card? I'd hate it if it would only read my JPG files and leave out my > RAW files because it couldn't recognize them as valid digital camera > files. All it *needs* to do is to recognize them as *files*. Ideally, what I would want it to do is to duplicate the directory tree off the CF card, perhaps skipping the top-most one (which is a constant for a given camera.) It is DCIM on my Nikon D70 (and also on the D200) and probably on all Nikon digital cameras -- SLRs or no. The only time you want to put something that far up in the directory tree for a Nikon is when you are about to install a firmware upgrade. That is where the D70 (and presumably the others) wants it to be. I, personally, would do it on a laptop with OpenBSD (or perhaps a linux) installed, using mkisofs to form the image of the CF card directory tree, and then either "cdrecord" or "cdrw". (The latter comes with Sun's Solaris 10, so it is the choice for me. I seem to remember that "cdrecord" needs a special key downloaded to allow it to handle DVDs instead of CDs, but "cdrw" handles them both with no fuss. Enjoy, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- > All it *needs* to do is to recognize them as *files*. Ideally, >what I would want it to do is to duplicate the directory tree off the CF >card, perhaps skipping the top-most one (which is a constant for a given >camera.) It is DCIM on my Nikon D70 (and also on the D200) and probably >on all Nikon digital cameras -- SLRs or no. As it will be on practically all digital cameras - it's an ISO standard. Almost all cameras with removable media will format them with a FAT file system, and follow the DCF standard for file and directory naming. That's what allows third-party manufactures to make products (printers, image tanks, etc.) which can grab images directly from the memory cards. Because it's a regular FAT volume you can have other types of content elsewhere, not in the DCIM tree, so you can put MP3 files there as well and see them on a device which doubles as an image tank and MP3 player. For that matter you can put anything else you like on the volume; I've used CF cards when I didn't have a thumb drive handy. The camera will ignore the other files, and only look inside the DCIM subtree. > I've been wondering about the same thing. > But I'd be a little worried about a hard drive for storing all my [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > RAW files because it couldn't recognize them as valid digital camera > files. Yes there are portable DVD (and the older CD) burners as well. Most of the burners will run on batteries, but I tend to view the best use as copying in a hotel room at night with power. I've seen the recomendation that you burn two disks before reformating the card (probably using different media just in case), and mailing one disk to yourself with appropriate hardshell case and padding to survive the mail system. SignatureMichael Meissner email: mrmnews@the-meissners.org http://www.the-meissners.org > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > camera and shot off some pics which I will be waiting geological time to > get. The FlashTrax units are designed for portable storage of files by simply plugging your CF card into the unit and pressing copy. Unfortunately they seem to be fraught with software problems. I have had two units go haywire on me, the last one being a brand new 40GB XT. I eventually decided to just get another card or two and used the credit from the FlashTrax to get a Kirk BH-3 ballhead. SignatureNow with uploadable photo critique section in the forum http://www.nikongear.com/ > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > camera and shot off some pics which I will be waiting geological time to > get. I have been saying for a long time that the camera should be able to directly link to a external hard drive. Since they don't I bought one of these http://www.aleratec.com/usbcocrplpa3.html It works fairly well but is a bit slow. Scott I use a Delkin Bridge (purchased on eBay for $25, including shipping). It permits direct transfer from one USB device to another. I carry around a few flash cards (now about $15 for a good 512) and dump images either from a USB cable connected to my camera (several different Oly models) or a card reader. It's fast and works like a charm. The Bridge takes two AA batteries, and sets up a new file on the receiving USB device each time you transfer files. Reportedly, the Bridge will also work with many other USB devices (hard drives, MP3 players, etc.). It's tiny and eliminates the need for a PC altogether. Perfect for some kinds of travel. > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve >Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Steve Steve, before you go buying anything, you should check this out: http://www.mymediagear.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=55&products_id=90 As long as The DSLR uses Compact Flash cards, this should do the trick. Ibelieve they sell them at Office Depot, and that they may be available for Smartmedia abd Secure Digital card versions. John > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > camera and shot off some pics which I will be waiting geological time to > get. There are many devices that take media cards and copy the media card to an internal disk drive, and you can then hook this disk drive up to a computer with USB (or sometimes firewire). Some of the units can copy from USB device (like a camera) to another (like a disk drive), but that might these tend to be on the slow side. One place that offers a bunch of the units that I just bought my current PSD (Vosonic VP6230) from is mydigitaldiscount.com. If you have a spare laptop disk drive, geeks.com was offering a Jobo giga one unit for $20 that would do this. In the past I have copied files for friends who had run out of memory in the field, and then I made a CD for them, so I prefer PSDs that have a bunch of different options for media, even if I'm not shooting a camera that uses that media. SignatureMichael Meissner email: mrmnews@the-meissners.org http://www.the-meissners.org |
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