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3/8 ball head to 1/4 tripod

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woops - 24 Jun 2006 06:48 GMT
Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
tripod ?
Ball head has female 3/8 x 16 and tripod is male 1/4 x 20.

I bought a 3/8 bolt that will eventually work after some drilling and
grinding but there must be a better way.
Tim - 24 Jun 2006 06:57 GMT
> Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
> tripod ?
> Ball head has female 3/8 x 16 and tripod is male 1/4 x 20.
>
> I bought a 3/8 bolt that will eventually work after some drilling and
> grinding but there must be a better way.

I have an small adapter that goes into my tripod head socket and makes
it fit on the smaller male post of the tripod legs. I don't recall if
the size is the same that you mentioned though. I suspect that bigger
camera stores should be able to help you. You might check the
bogen/manfrotto web site for parts too.
John Bean - 24 Jun 2006 09:05 GMT
>Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
>tripod ?

Yes, it's a standard part that's often included with tripods
and/or heads. It's usually a small insert that you can
either screw into the head to make it 1/4" or alternatively
screw over the tripod thread to make it 3/8". Any dealer
that sells tripods/heads should have one.

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Mark - 24 Jun 2006 12:17 GMT
> Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
> tripod ?
> Ball head has female 3/8 x 16 and tripod is male 1/4 x 20.
>
> I bought a 3/8 bolt that will eventually work after some drilling and
> grinding but there must be a better way.

The Manfrotto item is 088LBP in Europe. If you're in US it will have a
different Bogen number, but I expect if you are you'll be able to do a
search on it and get the number you need.  Hope this helps.
Mark
Pat - 25 Jun 2006 15:52 GMT
> > Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
> > tripod ?
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> search on it and get the number you need.  Hope this helps.
> Mark

Bogen is on the way out over here.  Manfrotto are readily available, so
I guess parts must be, too.
Tim - 25 Jun 2006 16:21 GMT
> > > Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my
> > > old
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> Bogen is on the way out over here.  Manfrotto are readily available, so
> I guess parts must be, too.

Bogen and Manfrotto are the same company.
J. Clarke - 25 Jun 2006 16:28 GMT
>> > Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my
>> > old tripod ?
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>
> Bogen is on the way out over here.

They are?  Since when and who is picking up their product lines?

> Manfrotto are readily available, so
> I guess parts must be, too.

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Tim - 25 Jun 2006 16:59 GMT
> >> > Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my
> >> > old tripod ?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> They are?  Since when and who is picking up their product lines?

They're not. Manfrotto is the parent company or new name, however you
want to look at it.
Pat - 26 Jun 2006 03:20 GMT
TTBOMN, they've been using Manfrotto in Europe and Bogen in US.  They
are consolidating the lines into the Manfrotto name and moving that to
the US.  Hence, it is now available here and Bogan is on the way you.

> > >> > Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my
> > >> > old tripod ?
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> They're not. Manfrotto is the parent company or new name, however you
> want to look at it.
Hunt - 25 Jun 2006 02:20 GMT
>Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
>tripod ?
>Ball head has female 3/8 x 16 and tripod is male 1/4 x 20.
>
>I bought a 3/8 bolt that will eventually work after some drilling and
>grinding but there must be a better way.

Yes, Linhof has packaged one, that works very well. It is stainless steel (
most are brass and crack easily), and I keep about 3 around various camera
bags. Most pro-photo shops carry some version, but after a dozen cheapies,
I've standardized on the Linhof and have never broken a single one over 15
years.

Hunt
Tim - 25 Jun 2006 14:11 GMT
> >Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
> >tripod ?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Hunt

Just out of curiousity, how did the others crack? Did the cracking have
any impact on the head or the safety of the camera?
Hunt - 27 Jun 2006 01:44 GMT
[SNIP]

>Just out of curiousity, how did the others crack? Did the cracking have
>any impact on the head or the safety of the camera?

Mostly just heavy use, probably coupled with a bit of over-tightning over
time. As the device is an internally & externally threaded boss, with a
slotted flange on the top for a broad screwdriver, most of the cracks came in
the slotted flange area, though I had one gave way below the flange. With the
MUCH more expensive Linhof units (aren't all things Linhof expensive?), I've
gotten over 15 years of service out of four. Amortized over the time, maybe
they're not THAT expensive.

Hunt
DoN. Nichols - 25 Jun 2006 04:48 GMT
According to woops <w3cyykcv7q8gjpv@jetable.org>:
> Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my old
> tripod ?

    Yes.  I have several which came with various things.  Your ball
head (especially if new) should have come with such an adaptor.  They
are typically a collar threaded externally with the 3/8-16 and
internally with the 1/4-20.  They typically have a bit of a flare (like
a countersunk screw except that the overall diameter is just a little
beyond the OD of the 3/8-16 thread (to keep the adaptor from going too
deeply into the hole in the camera or the ball head in this case), and
they also typically have a slot bridging the 1/4-20 hole so you can use
a coin as a screwdriver.

> Ball head has female 3/8 x 16 and tripod is male 1/4 x 20.

    O.K.

> I bought a 3/8 bolt that will eventually work after some drilling and
> grinding but there must be a better way.

    Check the packaging for your ball head.  I find it difficult to
imagine it being shipped without one.

    Yes -- you could *buy* one.  Try going to your camera store and
seeing what they have.  I would expect them to be in a blister pack on a
rotating rack somewhere.

    Or -- if you have a lathe, turn the 3/16" OD with a bit of a
chamfer at the end, thread it using the lathes' threading gears, drill
through the center with a #7 drill bit (tap drill for 1/4-20, and tap it
to 1/4-20, and only then part it off.  I would suggest brass as being a
good material for the product.

    If you have a milling machine, also set up to mill a slot for
use in removing it when the time comes that you need to do so.

    Grinding is probably a poor way to make one.

    Enjoy,
        DoN.
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Say Cheese - 25 Jun 2006 14:42 GMT
> According to woops <w3cyykcv7q8gjpv@jetable.org>:
>> Is there a standard adapter that will let my new ball head attach to my
>> old
>> tripod ?
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> Or -- if you have a lathe, turn the 3/16" OD with a bit of a
> chamfer at the end, thread it using the lathes' threading gears, drill
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Enjoy,
> DoN.

Thanks for all the advice folks.  Guess I could have checked Ritz but don't
think of them as a pro camera shop.  Got one off e-bay - - cheaper than BH
or Adorama once you figure in shipping.  Grinding down the head of the 3/8
brass cap screw I bought to fix the clearance problem on the tripod IS a bad
idea like you said.
 
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