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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / June 2006Konica Minolta Dynax/Maxxum 5D - USB 2.0 speed and firmware updates
[This followup was posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems and a copy was sent to the cited author.] Hi group after years with compact digital cameras including a Sony Cybershot P150 I finally bought a dSLR camera. And an 18-200 lens. Quite happy with functionality and picture quality.... But, really unhappy about the poor (USB 1.1 - like) data transfer rate. My CF card is a Sandisk Extreme III, so the CF card is definitively not slowing things down. Anybody has an idea about whether this can be improved to the standard USB 2.0 high-speed transfer rate ?? For the D7 the firmware can be upgrade (and improve data transfer rate) - is this also possible on the D5 ?? I find nothing (yet) on the Konica Minolta web pages. Kind Regards, Erik M R > [This followup was posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems and a copy > was sent to the cited author.] [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > D5 ?? I find nothing (yet) on the Konica Minolta > web pages. I doubt hardware can be updated with firmware. The 7D was USB 1.1, and now that Konica-Minolta is out of the camera business it's doubtful any more support will be offered. You can but an USB 2 high speed card reader and get the full speed transfer. Darrell Larose (spam@this.invalid) wrote in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems: > I doubt hardware can be updated with firmware. The 7D was USB 1.1, and now > that Konica-Minolta is out of the camera business it's doubtful any more > support will be offered. The Minolta Maxxum 7D is a USB 2.0 device. The first firmware was not well written, and transfer speeds were around 7-8Mbps, which is USB 1.1 speed. The 1.10 version firmware corrected this, and gives 20-30Mbps speeds. This is not the full 480Mbps spec of USB 2.0, but then no other D-SLR camera comes close, and 20-30Mbps is about what most of them score.  SignatureJeff Rife | | http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/Dilbert/Evaluation.jpg Hi there I had hoped that some tech genius knew about a nifty trick - or someone had access to a beta-version of a firmware update (that will never be released now :-(... As said, otherwise I am quite happy about the camera+lens - marvelous pics and good, logical functionality. Just seen pics of Sony alpha-100 dSLR: the Konica Minolta parentage is more than visible as it looks extremely much as a D5/D7. But with 10 MP instead of 6.1 MP. Regards, Erik M R [This followup was posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems and a copy was sent to the cited author.] > Darrell Larose (spam@this.invalid) wrote in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems: > > I doubt hardware can be updated with firmware. The 7D was USB 1.1, and now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > speeds. This is not the full 480Mbps spec of USB 2.0, but then no other > D-SLR camera comes close, and 20-30Mbps is about what most of them score. Actually the trick here is to take the card out of your camera and pop it into a $5 card reader, fast and you don't have to have the camera switched on. > Hi there > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> speeds. This is not the full 480Mbps spec of USB 2.0, but then no other >> D-SLR camera comes close, and 20-30Mbps is about what most of them score. > Actually the trick here is to take the card out of your camera and pop it > into a $5 card reader, fast and you don't have to have the camera switched > on. I don't understand why the camera power even needs to be used to read the card. The USB should be enough power to power up the CF and read from it without involving the camera. I predict this "innovation" will soon (or eventually anyway) occur... Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > I predict this "innovation" will soon (or eventually anyway) occur... well while you are waiting, the rest of us will just use card readers > I doubt hardware can be updated with firmware. The 7D was USB 1.1, and now The 7D is USB 2. There was an initial transfer rate problem that has been fixed and released by firmware upgrade (well over a year ago). Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > really unhappy about the poor (USB 1.1 - like) > data transfer rate. My CF card is a Sandisk Extreme III, > so the CF card is definitively not slowing things down. I've got a 5D and never even unwrapped the USB cable. Just take the card out and put it in a cheap reader. Saves the camera batteries and/or you can be reformatting other cards in the camera while you're uploading photos to the PC. >>really unhappy about the poor (USB 1.1 - like) >>data transfer rate. My CF card is a Sandisk Extreme III, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and/or you can be reformatting other cards in the camera while you're > uploading photos to the PC. I only worry about wear and tear on the male pins in the camera body. So I prefer to hardwire the images over. > I only worry about wear and tear on the male pins in the camera body. I keep seeing similar statements from people and it's got me wondering what all the hub-bub is about. I've been popping CF cards in an out of various devices (camera, PDA, printers, etc.) on almost a daily basis for 5 or 6 years now and have never, and I do mean NEVER, had a device's CF slot fail. Nor have I ever personally seen someone else have this problem. I'm not exactly someone you would describe as having a delicate touch so I have to wonder, has anyone actually had this happen to them?? >> I only worry about wear and tear on the male pins in the camera body. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm not exactly someone you would describe as having a delicate touch so > I have to wonder, has anyone actually had this happen to them?? No. I do no a lady who somehow managed to insert her card sideways into her new D70 and bent most of the pins... I know it's not a "great" reason, but it's what I do. I only have one card so it's not necessary for me to be popping them anyway. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > No. I do no a lady who somehow managed to insert her card sideways into DOH!!! "no" a lady? Sigh. >> No. I do no a lady who somehow managed to insert her card sideways into > > DOH!!! "no" a lady? Sigh. :-) I do that sort of thing myself when typing fast, usually catch it before posting but sometimes don't. Neil > No. I do no a lady who somehow managed to insert her card sideways into > her new D70 and bent most of the pins... Actually I "no" a lady who bought 12 cards before she realised they were reuseable! (I also use a card reader with my 5D - one from Photomax that automatically uploads to my on-line photosite as well as leaving a copy on the computer - very handy.) John www.pictureofhealth.myphotomax.com - Free 5Gb of photo storage www.pictureofhealth.pictureyourbusiness.com - making sharing those pictures a business >> No. I do no a lady who somehow managed to insert her card sideways into >> her new D70 and bent most of the pins... > > Actually I "no" a lady who bought 12 cards before she realised they > were reuseable! <GUFFAW!> Reminds me of a camera salesman decades ago who told me about a lady who brought a sleeve of used flashbulbs (anyone remember flashbulbs?) into the store and said, "I'd like to have these developed." I only worry about wear and tear on the male pins in the camera body. So > I prefer to hardwire the images over. forget it, compact flash is generally rated at a minimum 10,000 insertions, so 10 times a day would still take 3 years to do. I have never bothered to use the camera to d/load the images, only ever used card readers, never have had a problem over the last 5-6 years, so long as you don't try and stick the card in sideways in the typeII slot you won't have problems with bent pins either. |
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