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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / June 2006Tony Polson's Portfolio Photos
Many of you know this fellow from his rather eloquent and seemingly expert posts about the technical aspects of cameras and their various accessories... But did you also know he is a Professional Photographer who claims to have had cover shots on a reputable magazine - Paris Match and he is also an accomplished train spotter? There must have been a mix up in his photographs or his name because when I asked the editors for the edition numbers he had supplied photos for, they didn't know who I was talking about! ...Hmmm. Well this man also claims to shoot 50 rolls of film a week and take building inspection photographs as part of his daily workload. In fact I can't recall a section of Photography he hasn't claimed mastery over. To listen to him rattle off his long list of achievements you'd be forgiven for thinking you were in the presences or a rare photographic genius. When he starts to lambaste working Professionals, you start to get the feeling he must take some really fantastic photos himself to have the balls to take on someone who owns a Photographic business and makes a living from their trade, eh? Well, I'd like to invite all and sundry to view this self proclaimed expert's portfolio of British trains. Please feel free to pass critical assessment on them as he has done so many times with other people's pictures... http://abpr.railfan.net/abpr.cgi?/september98/09-24-98 Just scroll down a few lines until you reach "Tony Polson" as the contributor and click the images. Absolutely amazing photographs. Far more than I'd expect from such a vocal supporter of himself. Can you imagine what the ones he withholds from publication must look like? The mind boggles at this Fraudsters capabilities... And people actually engage him in conversation as if he was what he claims to be. ROTFL! Go ahead, make my day! More ROTFL!!! Now all we need is some Wedding photos from Randall Ainsworth to complete the circuit!  SignatureFrom Douglas... My photographic site: http://www.douglasjames.com.au Canvas and Metallic Prints: http://www.canvasphotos.com.au Douglas i think you will have to look elsewhere to find someone that actually gives a toss. >... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ROTFL! Go ahead, make my day! More ROTFL!!! Now all we need is some > Wedding photos from Randall Ainsworth to complete the circuit! Doug, would you care to take a look at http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/argenteus/jpg/xmas-card.jpg and pass judgement on the quality/ composition/ suitability/ etc of this little print? Its a Xmas card that my Granddad received some years ago. The b/w print is only a little more than 50mm square, so what you see in the jpg is about what you get in the flesh. I've pixellated out the sender's name for the sake of relative's privacy. So... Whadd'ya reckon, huh? (dSLR content: Geez I'm having fun with my D50 - sadly, I like it even more than my *1stDS.) -- Jeff R. >>... >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > -- > Jeff R. You missed my point Jeff. Polson has for at least 5 years passed judgment on other and promoted himself as some sort of Photographic Guru. These are the only published examples of his "Professional" Photographer claims. SignatureFrom Douglas... My photographic site: http://www.douglasjames.com.au Canvas and Metallic Prints: http://www.canvasphotos.com.au > You missed my point Jeff. > Polson has for at least 5 years passed judgment on other and promoted > himself as some sort of Photographic Guru. These are the only published > examples of his "Professional" Photographer claims. Yes Douglas it is certainly time to send out the "Professional" Photographer Police and tell him off. Oh Doug, just in case you missed it, this is Usenet, where even you can say stuff and no one will care that much at all! > >>... > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >>-- > >>From Douglas... The photoeditor from a modeling agency I have worked for recent said that she has never had one photographer compliment another, That is probably whats going on here. Tom > >>My photographic site: http://www.douglasjames.com.au > >>Canvas and Metallic Prints: http://www.canvasphotos.com.au [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > My photographic site: http://www.douglasjames.com.au > Canvas and Metallic Prints: http://www.canvasphotos.com.au >> Doug, would you care to take a look at >> http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/argenteus/jpg/xmas-card.jpg [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > himself as some sort of Photographic Guru. These are the only published > examples of his "Professional" Photographer claims. Don't think I have missed the point, Doug. The train photos I saw seemed adequate to the task. Noisy, granted. Imperfect exposures, sure. Composition probably limited by opportunity. One has to ask, however: "What was the brief for the photos?" Were they intended to be covers for an international glossy, or just snaps intended to ID some big machines? Are they his "only published examples", or just the only ones we know of? Back to the quaint little xmas card. Does it betray a professional hand? Does it look like it was produced by a skilful practitioner? Could/would any of us do better, with our snazzy new CanoNikOlymPentaxes? Is it adequate - or even *good* for the intended use? Should the photographer be proud of it - proud enough to distribute it? http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/argenteus/jpg/xmas-card.jpg In the context of passing critical judgement on a fellow photographer's published work, I think its fair enough to use this example to set standards. Yes? Cheers from chilly Sydney -- Jeff R. > >> Doug, would you care to take a look at > >> http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/argenteus/jpg/xmas-card.jpg [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > -- > Jeff R. I'm not an expert with respect to photography but I rather liked your Granddad's photo. I wish I was in Sidney because it's too bloody hot here. Bill in Lake Charles >> http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/argenteus/jpg/xmas-card.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > here. > Bill in Lake Charles Thanks Bill. Actually, Granddad *received* this card with attached image. It came from a friend - a fellow member of his camera club. (This was Xmas 1931) I was kinda hoping to make a point, but the time has probably passed now. I love this time of year in Sydney - particularly when its sunny and chilly. The winter sun is just so-o-o-o nice. Our summer is way too long and way too hot. The colour of the treetops at sunset is magic, too. -- Jeff Pollyanna R. >>> http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/argenteus/jpg/xmas-card.jpg >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Jeff Pollyanna R. Sydney? Chilly? HA! It was minus 4 here this morning! > Sydney? Chilly? HA! It was minus 4 here this morning! You talking C or F? It was minus 1 a few km west of here this morning; expecting -2 tonight. That's deg C of course. -- Jeff R. >> Sydney? Chilly? HA! It was minus 4 here this morning! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Jeff R. C, Canberra. >>> ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > himself as some sort of Photographic Guru. These are the only > published examples of his "Professional" Photographer claims. We all take images for different reasons. Some are for framing, and others are for publishing. Some are for simple nostalgia, and others are for documentation of our own experiences. I don't think you or I are in any position that even remotely resembles preparation to make a judgement in what his purposes were in those particular shots, but I suspect they were the first two. I note that they are very much in keeping with the tendencies of the images posted by others on the site. When you post superior work, Doug, perhaps you'll have room to talk. So far, I haven't seen it from you. I make no claims of greatness, because I don't believe I merit it. But you've made ridiculous claims for years now about your own photographic skills, Doug, and given the level of your own preposterous claims, you...of all people, should be slow to slam. That said, I DO appreciate when people post examples of their own work--whether it be great or mediocre. This DOES lend a certain level of credibility, or at least a context for placement of their blatherings. Tony might want to consider this, but in the mean time, I'm not prepared to make the assumptions you are making here. Some of the most talented people are irritating (Take me, for example...ha ha--kidding about the talent part, at least...). :) I fully recognise my tendency to grate... -Mark² SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>> ... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > keeping with the tendencies of the images posted by others on the > site. Oops! Note the correction with the addition of the word, "not" above! -Mark² SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson . > That said, I DO appreciate when people post examples of their own > work--whether it be great or mediocre. This DOES lend a certain level of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Mark² So far markie old boy, you and Polson have a highly similar lack of social skills and an uncanny willingness to insult and criticize anyone who disagrees with anything you say. I wonder why? Are you the sort of jerk who yells at people on the telephone but is quiet and polite in person? It certainly sounds like it. What on earth makes you feel so forthright in your insults and condemnation you think you can do with a keyboard what you would get cuffed over the ears for if you tried it in person? No way in the world would you insult people face to face, the way you do on Usenet. Do you do it because you think you can escape a personal confrontation? If you do, you are a member of an elitist group of idiots who without provocation or reason, attack other who do no more or less than communicate their views, findings and opinions to others with a similar interest. Not good enough for you though, is it? You, Tony Polson and Al Denelsbeck both grow ball big enough the tackle Hulk Hogan every time you log on to Usenet. What's the problem with you, Markie? Your missus belt you over the ears when you don't eat all your dinner or something? Make you hand over all your earnings so she can control your rampant spending? Your comments about my Photography are at odds with those of my paying clients... Who should I concern myself about? You, with an over fertile imagination and an attitude to match or those who provide my living by buying my photographs? Get a life, fool. You'll find no joy in your quest to tumble me with your twisted wit and stupid attitude problems. Get some help before you delude yourself into thinking you can insult a real person and not have them retaliate. > . >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > yourself into thinking you can insult a real person and not have them > retaliate. LOL. > "Dmac" <Dmac@this.group> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LOL. :-) me too! What a maroon.. SignatureStacey >> "Dmac" <Dmac@this.group> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > :-) me too! What a maroon.. Pretty funny, I will be up that way later in the year, I now will have to drop in and see this guy in person just to show myself that he actually exists. He has got to be the worlds funniest man!! ;-) > . >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > condemnation you think you can do with a keyboard what you would get > cuffed over the ears for if you tried it in person? You're a funny guy, Doug. --You create a brand new thread for the sole purpose of ridiculing someone, and then you make accusations of condemnation. That's funny. Who created this new thread for that purpose alone, again? -Not me, chump. BTW--My joking (see above in the "( )" was a cut against MY OWN talent, you dolt. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >> . >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > BTW--My joking (see above in the "( )" was a cut against MY OWN talent, > you dolt. Mark, don't try and make sense from his postings, no one ever has, it is totally futile. >>> . >>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Mark, don't try and make sense from his postings, no one ever has, it > is totally futile. Yes, I know... Doug's "issues" are well known to me. I tried to be gentle, but he's always a ticking bomb... SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson > . >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > condemnation you think you can do with a keyboard what you would get > cuffed over the ears for if you tried it in person? Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... How ironic/predictable. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>. >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > How ironic/predictable. Good new Markie, old boy... I'll be in you neck of the woods in about 11 weeks. Want to try again then? SignatureFrom Douglas... My photographic site: http://www.douglasjames.com.au Canvas Archival and Metallic Prints: http://www.canvasphotos.com.au >>> . >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Good new Markie, old boy... I'll be in you neck of the woods in about > 11 weeks. Want to try again then? Try...what again, when, and for what? SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>> . >>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Try...what again, when, and for what? LOL >> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... >> >> How ironic/predictable. >> > Good new Markie, old boy... I'll be in you neck of the woods in about 11 > weeks. Want to try again then? Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. I'll gladly give you keyboard commandos a face to face personal lesson in basic civility. > >> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. I'll gladly give you keyboard > commandos a face to face personal lesson in basic civility. A fight, a real fight! haha. >>>> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > A fight, a real fight! > haha. Oh, I doubt it. Douglas is very nearly insane, and this is just another manifestation. Personally, I thought my original post was quite civil, but he blew a rod... SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>>> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Personally, I thought my original post was quite civil, but he blew a > rod... You better learn how to read headers, or do a little Google groups search, I have nothing to do with your "Douglas" character. I couldn't give a rodents derriere what your issue is with him. I just can't believe how totally inappropriately you keyboard commandos get while hiding behind your keyboards in the bowls of your mothers basements. I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, the vast majority of you would never dream of spouting off like you do. Like I said, I'll gladly give either of you keyboard commandos a face to face personal lesson in basic civility. >>>>>> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Like I said, I'll gladly give either of you keyboard commandos a face to > face personal lesson in basic civility. NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH, pffft! Think you're any different, think again? >>>>>> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > search, I have nothing to do with your "Douglas" character. I > couldn't give a rodents derriere what your issue is with him. That makes sense, since you are obviously completely unaware of the history and issues of the people you're talking about. If you had even a parital understanding, you wouldn't be preaching anything to me with regard to "Douglas." > I just can't believe how totally inappropriately you keyboard > commandos get while hiding behind your keyboards in the bowls of your > mothers basements. Please quote the statement I've made that that you are specifically basing your preaching on. Otherwise, I'd suggest keep your generalizations to yourself, since they are without merit--short of specifics. > I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, > the vast majority of you would never dream of spouting off like you > do. You wouldn't be speaking as you are, either, chum. > Like I said, I'll gladly give either of you keyboard commandos a face > to face personal lesson in basic civility. Part of civility extends to educating yourself as to the particulars of a situation before you stick your nose in, and clearly demonstrate your lack of situational awareness. This is a case in point, and you would do well to follow your own advice. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>>>>> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > of situational awareness. This is a case in point, and you would do well to > follow your own advice. Exactly how big are your balls, Mark? Certainly you have more hide and less brains than anyone I know. >>>>>>>> Bravely spoken...from your safe corner of Australia... >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > Exactly how big are your balls, Mark? > Certainly you have more hide and less brains than anyone I know. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Doug considering you have three dicks that is just an amazing thing to say!!! > I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, the vast > majority of you would never dream of spouting off like you do. Actually you do not. Your supposition is baseless, and in my particular case I would say to your face what I would say online. > Like I said, I'll gladly give either of you keyboard commandos a face to > face personal lesson in basic civility. Heh, a veiled threat to kick someones a.s? Afraid to speak it straight out, eh? Something you would also do on a F2F? LOL, I doubt it. Why the hell don't you just back off your ugly a.s, you're not a net cop, just a wannabe. >> I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, the >> vast [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Why the hell don't you just back off your ugly a.s, you're not a net cop, > just a wannabe. Actually in your context, you do not have a clue and your supposition is unquestionably baseless. I know from first hand experience, even the most belligerent fools can be taught to behave civilly. In your particular case, you would converse with me in a civil manor or be sucking you meager sustenance through a straw for a few months. If that is not straight forward enough for you I suggest you look into some remedial English classes. Now, get off your mothers computer, quickly before she catches you and locks you back in your closet. While you're dishing out the remedial English, "mothers" is missing an apostrophe. >>> I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, the >>> vast [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Now, get off your mothers computer, quickly before she catches you and > locks you back in your closet. >>> I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, the >>> vast [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Now, get off your mothers computer, quickly before she catches you and locks > you back in your closet. Heh, as I figured, a dolt. Big mouth, hiding behind a keyboard, feeling safe like hiding behind your daddy's skirt. It is rather obvious that you have yet to be taught about civility and keeping your nose out of other peoples a.ses. I wouldn't consider you belligerent, seeing as you obviously do not use more than a half lid on your commode, one whose mannerisms are rather boorish and smacks of some queer guy cloaking his style in what he considers a masculine way. Best you stick to conversing with the sheep. > Best you stick to conversing with the sheep. It's almost magical how only the people it applies to take offense... Hopefully you keyboard commandos will venture out into the real world soon, and get your lesson in civility... LMFAO >> Best you stick to conversing with the sheep. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LMFAO May you LYF(friggin, that is...)A(arse)O as you slide down the bannister...and make a lovely little "klink" sound upon landing. :) There. Was that civil enough for you? Bye bye, and have a nice day. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >> Best you stick to conversing with the sheep. > > It's almost magical how only the people it applies to take offense... Shrugs, PKB? ayup! > Hopefully you keyboard commandos will venture out into the real world soon, > and get your lesson in civility... It most certainly won't come from the likes of your sorry a.s, now run along boi, that's it, keep moving on. > LMFAO Laughing your fat a.s off? >>> I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, >>> the vast [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Now, get off your mothers computer, quickly before she catches you > and locks you back in your closet. Surely you must recognize that little or nothing in this post of yours is "civil." I see only insult after insult. What do you see? SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>>> I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, >>>> the vast [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I see only insult after insult. > What do you see? What do I see, Mark²? I see escalating aggression in response to a bunch of keyboard commandos who were being uncivil to each other, then to me. I never professed to not being able to be uncivil, I simply warned Douglas to be careful what he asked for, because he may get it, and that I'd gladly give any of you keyboard commandos a face to face personal lesson in basic civility. I much prefer to ask a belligerent individual to behave, but if they can't take a hint, I also know that peace is achieved by superior fire power, not passivism. I firmly believe that you get what you deserve, and I have no qualms about being the one to give you what you deserve. If you treat other people inappropriately, expect to be treated inappropriately in return. Having had a rather unrefined childhood then an outstanding military career, I am well versed in slapping belligerent wanna be tough guy bullies into shape, verbally or physically. Like I said, I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room together, the vast majority of you would never dream of spouting off like you do while hiding behind your keyboards. Talk about NOT being able to follow along, My original post was a reply to Douglas "Dmac" as he was threatening to be in "Mark²'s" neighborhood. The most amusing part is, my responses and statements seem to only have galled the people who are most likely to need an attitude adjustment.. :-0 My offer still stands. >>>>> I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room >>>>> together, the vast [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > My offer still stands. Your offer is as cheap or cheaper than any other around here. The only difference in quality is that yours is closer to your ego. When it goes pop, you'll weasel just like the softest of the folks you hope to impress, and then go wooshing off into the void, alone and deflated. Do you really intend carrying that burden throughout your life? Will you pretend to kill your opponent so he can sail off to his reward? Poor kid. It must be very wearing. Toodles. SignatureFrank ess "I often think how wasteful it is that those with real capabilities should doubt their abilities, while bunglers seem so damn sure of themselves." -- Gil Amelio, "On the Firing Line" >>>>>> I know for a fact if we were all sitting in the same room >>>>>> together, the vast [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Toodles. Hah ha ha ha, thanks for the laugh, do you feel better now? You may need to go adjust your tutu, I think it is cutting off your circulation... :-) > We all take images for different reasons. Some are for framing, and > others [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > what his purposes were in those particular shots, but I suspect they were > the first two. Exactly, like this shot I did for ebay, does this mean I can't do anything more creative? http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/937049/grey2sm.jpg SignatureStacey >> We all take images for different reasons. Some are for framing, and >> others [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/937049/grey2sm.jpg Ding ding ding! Right. Doug's attempt at presenting some sort of "proof" regarding another's photographic prowess is just as silly as if we judged your Z pic to be representative of your best stuff. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson -- I think that's a nice shot, Stacey. Not an earth-stopper but I'm sure it accomplishes what it's supposed to do. I like the car, too Bill Isn't this a classic case of "the pot calling the kettle black"? In many previous posts we have all witnessed Douglas professing his Canon-bashing (and at times very suspect) photographic knowledge and in many ways promoting himself as a professional photographer ... ... and yet no true professional would act in such an immature & unprofessional way as Douglas has in this very thread (and many (most?)) others. Note to Douglas: "Professional is as professional does". Seems to me like Tony Polson is a lot more of a professional than you'll ever be. > Isn't this a classic case of "the pot calling the kettle black"? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Note to Douglas: "Professional is as professional does". Seems to me like > Tony Polson is a lot more of a professional than you'll ever be. Come on Tony... Stop clowning around. Do you think you can use this sock puppet and fool who? Yourself? OK. The fool is fooled. Now show us you pictures mate, tell us the Paris Match magazine edition number you shot the cover for. Come on, prove you can actually take a picture with that camera phone thing. Behave like a "real Professional" prove you are one. Your news server coughs up some interesting information: Aioe.org is an open source based project based on Debian GNU/Linux which aims at offering some services for free but with a good overall quality. All our services are accessible from every IP address and don't require neither a UserId nor a password. SignatureFrom Douglas... >> Isn't this a classic case of "the pot calling the kettle black"? >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > All our services are accessible from every IP address and don't require > neither a UserId nor a password. HAHAHAHAHA, sockpuppets? How many you up to now Doug? > Come on Tony... Stop clowning around. Do you think you can use this sock > puppet and fool who? Yourself? OK. The fool is fooled. Well I appear to have fooled you - you haven't even got the country right, let alone the right person. >Many of you know this fellow from his rather eloquent and seemingly >expert posts about the technical aspects of cameras and their various [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >mind boggles at this Fraudsters capabilities... And people actually >engage him in conversation as if he was what he claims to be. This is an equipment NG, and there is little correlation between artistic skill and the possession of credentials to advise or comment on equipment. These pictures look like quite old record photos. The locomotive was introduced in the early 1960s and withdrawn (I think) in the early 1980s. The livery is from the 60s not the 80s, but taking the coaches into account I would guess it is a preserved loco, in the livery of the 60s, but taken in the 80s. The grainy film stock also looks 1980s or earlier I doubt the photographer would claim any particular artistic merit for these photos. They are record shots, and fine for that purpose. To slag off anyone for 20+ year old record photos taken on grainy film and published on a special interest site as a service to those with a genuine interest smacks to me of someone who is scraping the barrel. Tony can be rude on occasions, sometimes even without much justification; most of us have crossed swords with him at some time or other. On the other hand, he has displayed substantial knowledge on many issues, and has been helpful to many contributors. A certain biblical quote about motes and beams springs to mind. David SignatureDavid Littlewood >> Many of you know this fellow from his rather eloquent and seemingly >> expert posts about the technical aspects of cameras and their various [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > many issues, and has been helpful to many contributors. A certain > biblical quote about motes and beams springs to mind. What? I can't see your point because of this plank in my eye! :) SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>....[ ] can be rude on occasions, sometimes even without much >> justification; most of us have crossed swords with him at some time or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What? I can't see your point because of this plank in my eye! I hope what David writes isn't too subtle, creating a certain empty pinging sound in a few sculls, and I don't mean Tony or Mark. But when I see a thread now with various combinations of replies, I can pretty much guess what it says. There are some old and deep resentments from before this NG was formed, and they get 'renewed' pretty often. Remember what your Mother taught you (well, me, although I was a slow learner): If you can't say something nice, don't say anything. So, Alan, Tony, Doug, Dallas, Mark, Bret, and a few others whose names or nyms I don't know, what about a 6 month truce? Or y'all can gang up on ..... Tony S. SignatureJohn McWilliams >>> ....[ ] can be rude on occasions, sometimes even without much >>> justification; most of us have crossed swords with him at some time [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I hope what David writes isn't too subtle, creating a certain empty > pinging sound in a few sculls, and I don't mean Tony or Mark. I was kidding with David, of course. I have a good deal of respect for him and his opinions/perspectives. We're all hypocrites of some kind or another at times, so its worth resisting the tendency. We've all had planks in our eyes as we point to the spec in someone else's...so Davids point was entirely appropriate. > But when I see a thread now with various combinations of replies, I > can pretty much guess what it says. There are some old and deep > resentments from before this NG was formed, and they get 'renewed' > pretty often. > Remember what your Mother taught you (well, me, although I was a slow > learner): If you can't say something nice, don't say anything. My mother didn't teach me that...Thumper did...who learned it from his dad. And heck.. -He was only a mere bunny rabbit! :) >So, > Alan, Tony, Doug, Dallas, Mark, Bret, and a few others whose names or > nyms I don't know, what about a 6 month truce? > > Or y'all can gang up on ..... Tony S. I actually think most here have acted with a fair amount restraint (with some notable exceptions). Dallas and I have already been practicing a truce... I don't mind Alan or Bret one bit...and Tony has his good points. Others have what I'd refer to as a clinical inability to control their behavior after a certain point. Trouble is, none of us really know what point that is. It is all too easy to fall into an argument with the wind. I never see Tony Spadaro any more. Is he still here? He's not in my klink file, so I wonder... -Mark SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>Many of you know this fellow from his rather eloquent and seemingly expert >>posts about the technical aspects of cameras and their various [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > This is an equipment NG, and there is little correlation between artistic > skill and the possession of credentials to advise or comment on equipment. That was always my argument when people would ask (order) Tony to put up pics or shut up. I'd say, the man could be blind for all I care, provided his advice about equipment is correct! SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
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