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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / June 2006LCD Monitor for Photoshop work?
Hi there ... My trusty old Sony Trinitron monitor is finally fading to the point I am making wicked contrast and saturation errors when souping up D100 pics in Photoshop. Also the new workstation I have set up has BARELY enough room for a tube monitor. Question ... I've been looking all over the place for a LCD monitor that might do the job, but every last one of them seems to have angle contrast issues that are practically unbearable - for instance the brightness of the reds can be so different from one angle to the next that things appear a little different from one EYE to the next and actually makes it look like things are glowing. Now - I took at look at the iMac's and the Apple "Cinema" LCD monitors and they seem to be using some new technology that prevents (or at least reduces) the difference in brightness from one angle to the next. Question - does anyone make a 3:4, preferable 17" LCD monitor with similar technology? Thanks! Ax > Hi there ... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Ax Look into Lacie LCDs, I have an HP 1940 that is excellent for editing, good brightness that is adjustable, good contrast, and for the images I have had printed on a Chromira right on. This is a 19 inch which I feel is about minimum for editing. You don't have to be right in front of the monitor to see it either, as you do with my laptop. The Mac Cinema displays are excellent too, but not the only ones. Tom SNIP > Look into Lacie LCDs, I have an HP 1940 that is excellent for > editing, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of the monitor to see it either, as you do with my laptop. The Mac > Cinema displays are excellent too, but not the only ones. From (recent) experience I can second the LaCie suggestion. My Trinitron CRT expired its useful life, so I took the plunge (the Eizo one I was eyeballing was too expensive for me). I got the LaCie 321 (21 inch, 1600x1200 native resolution) and it is very insensitive to viewing angle. The gamut is roughly as large as the Trinitron was, although a bit better in Red/Yellow than Blue. Be aware that LCDs are more difficult to profile than CRTs, if you work in a color-managed environment. A good profiling solution will be able to 'tame the beast'. Bart > "tomm42" <tmonego@wildblue.net> wrote in message > news:1149698378.780583.246190@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The gamut is roughly as large as the Trinitron was, although a bit better > in Red/Yellow than Blue. Bart, just out of curiosity - which Eizo were you looking at? Cheers, ink SNIP > just out of curiosity - which Eizo were you looking at? From their ColorEdge CG Graphics series, http://www.eizo.com/products/graphics/index.asp , in particular the CG220 for its wide gamut, or as a compromise the CG210. The investment at this time was too steep for me, e.g. <http://www.colormall.com/Graphics-Monitors-C64.aspx> in particular if you recognize that LCDs also deteriorate over time, albeit at a slower pace than a CRT. Bart "Bart van der Wolf" wrote... > SNIP >> just out of curiosity - which Eizo were you looking at? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > in particular if you recognize that LCDs also deteriorate over time, > albeit at a slower pace than a CRT. Thanks a lot for that... woohoo! I can understand what you mean by "steep"... OTOH my wife-to-be asked me a couple of days ago what I wanted for my upcoming birthday... <chuckle> Cheers & thanks again! ink > "Bart van der Wolf" wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Cheers & thanks again! > ink Have a phillips 170B4 17" TFT monitor. has srgb setting, 9500K and 6500K for colour management. Seems fine to me. Good viewing angle and a spyder 2 calibrates it nicely. I remember reading somewhere about a kind of background displayed along with a photo that would indicate when you were viewing an LCD monitor at the optimum viewing angle. I think it was a checker board pattern that disappeared when the angle was correct, or something like that. Anybody hear about this kind of thing? or where can a person get it? Steve > Hi there ... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Ax > Hi there ... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Ax From a doc. I'm writing... It is highly recommended that your imaging workstation uses a CRT monitor (conventional Cathode Ray Tube) rather than a consumer grade flat panel display. In general LCD monitors have a poor rendition in the quarter tones and a small viewing angle that can make accurate density and colour adjustment difficult. Exceptions to the rule are high-end LCD monitors designed specifically for the creative worker. Some of these use 10-bit colour internally and are much better at displaying colour and a full tonal range accurately. They include: § Eizo Coloredge CG19 / CG210 / CG220 § Lacie 321 § NEC Spectraview 1980 / 2180 A cheaper option is an Apple Cinema Display. Avoid batches with uneven backlights. -- Simon http://www.simonstanmore.com http://www.pbase.com/stanmore Most high quality LCDs can be adapted even for finicky color managed work although it is not necessarily as straight forward as setting up even a medium quality CRT with color management. You may have to make some test prints to tweak monitor settings for contrast and saturation but the process is not all that difficult. I tell myself this but every time I use an LCD I am very glad that my now very old NEC CRT is still reliable for image processing . . . |
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