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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / June 2006Don't buy a plastic camera if you have a prostate!
The EVIL of polycarbonate! Research studies risks of plastic chemical U.S. researchers say a chemical used in plastic products such as baby bottles and microwave cookware permanently altered genes in newborn lab rats. The study by researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Cincinnati found the changes in the animals from exposure to the chemical, used in making hard, polycarbonate plastics, affect the development of prostate glands, reports The Los Angeles Times. Such glands could be precursors to the most common form of cancer in males. The incidence of prostate cancer in men has gone up in the last 30 years, says the study whose findings were reported Thursday in the journal Cancer Research. The researchers cautioned the study was done on rats, which sometimes react differently to chemicals than humans. A spokesman for the American Plastics Council called it a "fascinating research" which should be studied further. He also said the real question is how its affects humans. Copyright 2006 by United Press International I doubt many people would have the camera near their prostates. ;-) If they do, I hope they don't post the sh___y pictures. <more crap from RichA snipped> Do you have a life, or do you just sit around all day looking for moronic things to post? Please buy a camera and learn something useful. ><more crap from RichA snipped> > >Do you have a life, or do you just sit around all day looking for >moronic things to post? Please buy a camera and learn something useful. Randall, Randall; Get the stick! That's it boy, get the stick! >><more crap from RichA snipped> >> >>Do you have a life, or do you just sit around all day looking for >>moronic things to post? Please buy a camera and learn something useful. > > Randall, Randall; Get the stick! That's it boy, get the stick! Aww Rich, that's a bit rough, rough. Randall doesn't get computers and he doesn't get photography. I think that even asking him to get a stick is asking a bit much. > Aww Rich, that's a bit rough, rough. > > Randall doesn't get computers and he doesn't get photography. I think that > even asking him to get a stick is asking a bit much. You amateurs are so cute. >> Aww Rich, that's a bit rough, rough. >> >> Randall doesn't get computers and he doesn't get photography. I think that >> even asking him to get a stick is asking a bit much. > >You amateurs are so cute. And some professionals aren't. >>> Aww Rich, that's a bit rough, rough. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And some professionals aren't. If Randall is a "professional", it sure ain't in the fields of photography or computers. And frankly, I'm a little disturbed that he finds us "cute" - I'm begininning to think he fancies us. Don't get me wrong, if he is one of the "alternative sexual orientation brigade" then I respect his choice, but it's just not for me. Woa. It's sometimes hard to agree with Randall, much less defend him. But I think your comments are going over the line. Even if you think he's a complete idiot who doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground, then flame him on that, his ignorance, or whatever. To make comments like that out of the blue is beyond flaming, unless you know more about him than the rest of us do. So please, if you are going to flame somebody, at least stick to the matter at hand. BTW, I think he's been around news groups long enough to get rather thick skin. That type of insult in not necessarily effective. Finding inconsistancies or errors in information would be much more insulting. Given that, fire away. OTOH, if you are going to get personal, at least be humorous. Maybe a few "Your Momma" lines would lighten thing up a bit. > Woa. It's sometimes hard to agree with Randall, much less defend him. > But I think your comments are going over the line. Even if you think [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > OTOH, if you are going to get personal, at least be humorous. Maybe a > few "Your Momma" lines would lighten thing up a bit. Jo Momma was so dumb that she never quoted the posts to which she was responding.  Signature--John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) > Woa. It's sometimes hard to agree with Randall, much less defend him. > But I think your comments are going over the line. Even if you think > he's a complete idiot who doesn't know his butt from a hole in the > ground, then flame him on that, his ignorance, or whatever. To make > comments like that out of the blue is beyond flaming, unless you know > more about him than the rest of us do. It doesn't bother me. He can call me a queer or whatever. I know the truth. >> Woa. It's sometimes hard to agree with Randall, much less defend him. >> But I think your comments are going over the line. Even if you think [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >It doesn't bother me. He can call me a queer or whatever. I know the >truth. Like most schizos do. > Like most schizos do. You're the plastic camera troll who doesn't even own a camera...not me. >Woa. It's sometimes hard to agree with Randall, much less defend him. >But I think your comments are going over the line. Even if you think [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >OTOH, if you are going to get personal, at least be humorous. Maybe a >few "Your Momma" lines would lighten thing up a bit. Thank you, Mrs. Ainsworth. >Such glands >>> could <<< be precursors to the most common form of >cancer in males. "could" > The incidence of prostate cancer in men has gone up in the last 30 > years, says the study whose findings were reported Thursday in the > journal Cancer Research. Gone up how much? Prostate cancer is strongly correlated with age. The proportion of the population in an elderly age range has been rising... Tom Nelson >> The incidence of prostate cancer in men has gone up in the last 30 >> years, says the study whose findings were reported Thursday in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Tom Nelson True, but then they warn people to start getting tested regularly at 45. > > The incidence of prostate cancer in men has gone up in the last 30 > > years, says the study whose findings were reported Thursday in the > > journal Cancer Research. > > Gone up how much? Prostate cancer is strongly correlated with age. The > proportion of the population in an elderly age range has been rising... My doctor says if I live long enough, eventually I will die of prostate cancer. That thought alone is enough to make me want to start eating red beef. Heart attack is a lot quicker way to go. I might even move to England and start eating deep fried Mars Bars. >> > The incidence of prostate cancer in men has gone up in the last 30 >> > years, says the study whose findings were reported Thursday in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >My doctor says if I live long enough, eventually I will die of prostate >cancer. True, it has risen as a cause of death in men dramatically. About in-line with the increased uses of...plastic! >> > The incidence of prostate cancer in men has gone up in the last 30 >> > years, says the study whose findings were reported Thursday in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > My doctor says if I live long enough, eventually I will die of prostate > cancer. Unless you've had the pesky thing removed or irradiated into uselessness. But otherwise, yes, I understand that 100% of men who died at age 80 or more, on autopsy were found to have prostate cancer. In most cases they just died of something else first. If not for the something else, eventually the prostate cancer would have gotten 'em. > That thought alone is enough to make me want to start eating red beef. Yes. We all have to die some time, but prostate cancer is a particularly nasty way to go. > That thought alone is enough to make me want to start eating red beef. > Heart attack is a lot quicker way to go. I might even move to England > and start eating deep fried Mars Bars. Deep fried Mars bars is Scotland. They also do a kebab which the shop powner will only sell one per week to customers because it's so unhealthy. From memory it's a big fat donner kebab deep fried and has something insane like 5000cals. Iain > > That thought alone is enough to make me want to start eating red beef. > > Heart attack is a lot quicker way to go. I might even move to England [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > From memory it's a big fat donner kebab deep fried and has something > insane like 5000cals. Which explains why Scotland has such a high rate of heart disease. Better than prostate cancer, though. I saw deep fried Mars bars at the Puyallup Fair in Washington State a couple years ago, so maybe I won't have to move. A couple of those, some elephant ears, and some onion burgers and I could probably do myself in right on the spot! All while listening to some Country music.... > I saw deep fried Mars bars at the Puyallup Fair in Washington State a > couple years ago, so maybe I won't have to move. A couple of those, > some elephant ears, and some onion burgers and I could probably do > myself in right on the spot! All while listening to some Country > music.... They also have deep-fried Twinkies at the Puyallup Fair. > > I saw deep fried Mars bars at the Puyallup Fair in Washington State a > > couple years ago, so maybe I won't have to move. A couple of those, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They also have deep-fried Twinkies at the Puyallup Fair. Ugh. Maybe the cure for prostate cancer is worse than the disease! :-) Well, I have a few more years left before I need to really start worrying about it. I figure the optimum time to start a high cholesteral diet is about 67. Give it a decade or so for it to start to take effect, and you can be sure that you will go peacefully in your sleep instead of after months of painful chemotherapy. George Burns said "Smoke one cigar every day for 100 years and you will live to a ripe old age". > > > I saw deep fried Mars bars at the Puyallup Fair in Washington State a > > > couple years ago, so maybe I won't have to move. A couple of those, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > take effect, and you can be sure that you will go peacefully in your > sleep instead of after months of painful chemotherapy. >> > I saw deep fried Mars bars at the Puyallup Fair in Washington State a >> > couple years ago, so maybe I won't have to move. A couple of those, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > take effect, and you can be sure that you will go peacefully in your > sleep instead of after months of painful chemotherapy. You probably won't need chemotherapy at all if you catch it early. I was diagnosed (early stage) four years ago, decided on radiation rather than surgery, went through the 40-treatment course and that was that. My PSA fell to 0.8 with a year after treatment, and isn't increasing at all. So I'll eventually die of something else, which is good news in a kind of grim way. > >> > I saw deep fried Mars bars at the Puyallup Fair in Washington State a > >> > couple years ago, so maybe I won't have to move. A couple of those, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > to 0.8 with a year after treatment, and isn't increasing at all. So I'll > eventually die of something else, which is good news in a kind of grim way. So keep getting those check-ups, eh? >> >> > I saw deep fried Mars bars at the Puyallup Fair in Washington State >> >> > a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> You probably won't need chemotherapy at all if you catch it early. I was >> diagnosed (early stage) four years ago, Correction, nearly five years ago. I finished the course of treatments more than four years ago. >> decided on radiation rather than >> surgery, went through the 40-treatment course and that was that. My PSA [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So keep getting those check-ups, eh? You bet! Every year. But I don't think my prostate will develop cancer again (or do anything else again, for that matter). "John Falstaff" <not@home.today> wrote in message > You bet! Every year. But I don't think my prostate will develop cancer > again (or do anything else again, for that matter). just don't sit on a roll of film or you will fog it ;P > "John Falstaff" <not@home.today> wrote in message >> >> You bet! Every year. But I don't think my prostate will develop cancer >> again (or do anything else again, for that matter). > > just don't sit on a roll of film or you will fog it ;P Probably, but as long as it doesn't hurt CompactFlash cards I don't care. ;-) > The EVIL of polycarbonate! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > bottles and microwave cookware permanently altered genes in newborn lab > rats. I'll make sure my lab rats don't use plastic cameras. >> The EVIL of polycarbonate! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I'll make sure my lab rats don't use plastic cameras. it may be present during manufacture but once set hard does the material radiate, emit, vapourise or otherwise impart the carcinogen into the atmosphere? Otherwise its only petrochemical workers at risk. >>> The EVIL of polycarbonate! >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >radiate, emit, vapourise or otherwise impart the carcinogen into the >atmosphere? Otherwise its only petrochemical workers at risk. They call it outgassing and it's one of the reasons why they stripped the plastic garnish of the Hasselblads when NASA took them to the Moon. >>>> The EVIL of polycarbonate! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the plastic garnish of the Hasselblads when NASA took them to the > Moon. I thought the main reason was that they were eliminating as much flammable material as possible from the cabin. That's the reason they adopted the Space Pen as well, less flammable than a pencil. Signature--John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) >>>>> The EVIL of polycarbonate! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > material as possible from the cabin. That's the reason they adopted the > Space Pen as well, less flammable than a pencil. the flaw with a pencil is when you sharpen it you have shavings floating all round the ship get into places they shouldn't and shorting things out. Ever drawn a pencil line down the side of a spark plug? >>>>>> The EVIL of polycarbonate! >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > round the ship get into places they shouldn't and shorting things out. > Ever drawn a pencil line down the side of a spark plug? Except that NASA did not use wooden pencils prior to the 1967 adoption of the Space Pen, they used mechanical pencils. And there do not appear to have been any real-world problems with broken leads. But there _was_ a real world problem with a fire in a pure oxygen environment. Signature--John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) make sure my lab rats don't use plastic cameras. >>it may be present during manufacture but once set hard does the material >>radiate, emit, vapourise or otherwise impart the carcinogen into the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the plastic garnish of the Hasselblads when NASA took them to the > Moon. Thankyou. outgassing. Does this study prove outgassing? The link suggested it was before the hardening took place or during. What about afterwards? > The EVIL of polycarbonate! > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Copyright 2006 by United Press International Good news! All is not lost: capsicum, the "hot" in the hot pepper, and most kinds of peppers, has recently been demonstrated to kill prostate cancer! http://ezinearticles.com/?Prostate-Cancer-Cells-Killed-by-Capsicum&id=163952 SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com > Good news! All is not lost: capsicum, the "hot" in the hot pepper, and most > kinds of peppers, has recently been demonstrated to kill prostate cancer! > > http://ezinearticles.com/?Prostate-Cancer-Cells-Killed-by-Capsicum&id=163952 Er, good news, but how does one apply the pepper?? Signaturejohn mcwilliams >> Good news! All is not lost: capsicum, the "hot" in the hot pepper, and most >> kinds of peppers, has recently been demonstrated to kill prostate cancer! >> >> http://ezinearticles.com/?Prostate-Cancer-Cells-Killed-by-Capsicum&id=163952 >Er, good news, but how does one apply the pepper?? Don't ask. ----- Paul J. Gans ... talk about a burning sensation when you pee .... > ... talk about a burning sensation when you pee .... Capsicum does that even if you simply eat it. Now, I have a recipe for chili that will probably prevent your getting prostate cancer, ever, if you eat it. But it burns just as much going out as it does going in.... This is where you say that the cure hurts as much as the disease??? > This is where you say that the cure hurts as much as the disease??? Pat- What others have alluded to I will say straight: It's a good thing to quote enough of the previous post to show to whom you are replying and about what mas o menos. Using Google, there's a way to get the text quoted, and that's to hit Show Options (at the top), then Reply. You can trim the quoted material easily. Signaturejohn mcwilliams "Matt Clara" <hey.wood.y@buzz.off> wrote in message news:bp-dncUBYdnKZx3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s- > Good news! All is not lost: capsicum, the "hot" in the hot pepper, and > most kinds of peppers, has recently been demonstrated to kill prostate > cancer! > > http://ezinearticles.com/?Prostate-Cancer-Cells-Killed-by-Capsicum&id=163952 "It also significant slowed the development of prostate tumors created by those human cell lines grown in mouse models. " my mouse doesn't have a 'ball' it has an led now. >The EVIL of polycarbonate! > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >research" which should be studied further. He also said the real >question is how its affects humans. I'll try to remember to keep my plastic cameras away from rats. If I shorten the strap, so that the camera is away from my prostate, will this help? Not to self: never sit on my plastic cameras! Hunt Second note to self: Evacuate premises if some say "stop taking pictures or I'll take that camera and shove it ...." >Second note to self: Evacuate premises if some say "stop taking >pictures or I'll take that camera and shove it ...." LOL Good one mate! Hunt > The EVIL of polycarbonate! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Times. Such glands could be precursors to the most common form of > cancer in males. So the important thing is, then, if you buy a polycarbonate camera don't stick it up your a.s. (Did everyone write that down? I hope so.) > So the important thing is, then, if you buy a polycarbonate camera don't > stick it up your a.s. > > (Did everyone write that down? I hope so.) I got a real laugh out of that. Very creative ;-D >> So the important thing is, then, if you buy a polycarbonate camera don't >> stick it up your a.s. >> >> (Did everyone write that down? I hope so.) > > I got a real laugh out of that. Very creative ;-D <chuckle> Thanks! |
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