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orion12 - 22 Apr 2006 18:52 GMT

heyall…(w/ apologies for duplicate postings

I really miss my (older) brother…as an ASMP (Nikon) pro…we'd worked together off & on over 20 yrs‚ had a studio together and at least phoned nearly everyday…He passed away last year after a 'bout w/ cancer‚ since suffering w/ Chrones' for 15+ yrs wasn't enough…Still amazed at how he kept a good attitude & made the 1000's of 1st rate images
I'd call him right now if I could…although‚ I probably know he'd tell me 'no comparison between the Nikkor –Nikon Glass and a Sigma or other aftermarket brand'
but‚ I have to make some choices here pretty quick and once I list 'em on my business plan‚ it's a one shot deal‚ so it's critical that I make the 'right?' choices

w/ two Nikon digital bodies (a D200 & maybe the 'spensive one that I don't wanna' jinx by naming it)…at any rate…I need to commit to my lens choices

(1)for the wide angle: can I get a great quality aftermarket fixed or zoom that's comparable to Nikon's DX–17–55mm f/2.8G IF–ED and save some real money?
(2)likewise on the portrait/midrange lens: Nikon 55–200mm f/4–5.6 DX G – a $150.00 Nikon zoom?…is there a sharper lens that's gonna' fill so many scenarios on a digital camera for less than $300?
(3)and then there's the tele: I have no idea – after reading and looking at everything…can I get SHARP images w/ a digital G–series telephoto – (zoom?) and carry a teleconverter (BRAND?)
bottom line: I'd really like to hear your views on which lenses you'd carry in the quiver…It's got to be new stuff (required)‚ w/ MINIMUM/NO quality difference‚ but keep in mind – any $$$$ saved can be used for other equipment/software…Again‚ your sincere advice is greatly appreciated

Oh‚ since I have completely run out of time – as far as turning in the business plan and just can't get enough stress…I've been considering changing everything over to the Canon line vs Nikon…**I saw some enlargements made on made on the EOS–20DA & the D200…& Canon's quality was 'truly like looking at chromes or film' whereas the Nikon file was obviously a digital image**….kinda' bothered me

Thanks again

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orion12

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Dave In WA - 22 Apr 2006 21:04 GMT

No pro here but I have done some investigation on this subject and have
decided to just stick with Nikon lenses, and particularly the "film"
versions if I can. My reason's are probably not justified...but if the
sensor gets bigger (remember Bill Gates said 'who needs more then 64Kb'),
film lenses will accommodate. I like the larger image area of the film
lenses, and when the sensor goes bigger, maybe to true 35mm size, they MIGHT
still work with the crystal focus or thought interface of the new cameras,
I plan on being in photography for the next few "leaps" in technology. A
good all around wide to tele is the new 18-200 VR Nikon "G" lens, it's a
little slow at f3.5-4.5, it's just for digital, but I might bend my rule for
this one.

I have also reviewed this website and find it's findings interesting and
probably accurate. go to the Reviews tab (top) and at the bottom are "user"
reviews, guys like us who rate our equipment. (User Performance Surveys)
http://www.photozone.de/active/news/index.jsp

I just got a Nikon 105mm "D" Macro lens ($539 import - BH Photo) and the
results were stunning, and I'll be using this September doing my own "school
portraits" with my kids.

good luck.

> heyall.(w/ apologies for duplicate postings)
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> Thanks again.

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Tony Polson - 22 Apr 2006 22:35 GMT

>No pro here but I have done some investigation on this subject and have
>decided to just stick with Nikon lenses, and particularly the "film"
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>still work with the crystal focus or thought interface of the new cameras,
>I plan on being in photography for the next few "leaps" in technology.

Wise decision. If Nikon really intended to standardise on APS size
sensors, they would have started withdrawing many full frame lenses
from production and introducing many new DX lenses. Instead, some
recent new lenses have been full frame.

I think it is a reasonable assumption that Nikon will introduce a full
frame DSLR in the near future. My contacts in Japan suggest that
there will be a major announcement around the time of Photokina.

Expect a full frame Nikon D3 with significantly more than 16 MP.

;-)

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Pete D - 23 Apr 2006 00:00 GMT

> No pro here but I have done some investigation on this subject and have
> decided to just stick with Nikon lenses, and particularly the "film"
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> lens, it's a little slow at f3.5-4.5, it's just for digital, but I might
> bend my rule for this one.

Only 35mm size, that will not be big enough, you really should be thinking
at least MF size. Personally I have bought what works for me now, I refuse
to worry about what might happen tomorrow cos I can't actually buy that yet.

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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 22 Apr 2006 21:43 GMT

>heyall(w/ apologies for duplicate postings)

No problem. But please wrap your posts to a reasonable line length.

>w/ two Nikon digital bodies (a D200 & maybe the 'spensive one that I don't wanna' jinx by naming it)at any rateI need to commit to my lens choices
>
>(3)and then there's the tele: I have no idea after reading and looking at everythingcan I get SHARP images w/ a digital Gseries telephoto (zoom?) and carry a teleconverter (BRAND?)

You have a D200 and a D2X and you want to put a really cheap long lens on
it? Best is the AF-S VR 70-200mm f/2.8 G IF-ED. This will work quite well
with the TC-20EII TC. Remember to get AF with a TC you have to keep the
combined max aperture greater than or equal to 5.6. Otherwise you will lose
AF.
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Rita Ä Berkowitz - 22 Apr 2006 22:20 GMT

Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:

> You have a D200 and a D2X and you want to put a really cheap long
> lens on it? Best is the AF-S VR 70-200mm f/2.8 G IF-ED. This will
> work quite well with the TC-20EII TC. Remember to get AF with a TC
> you have to keep the combined max aperture greater than or equal to
> 5.6. Otherwise you will lose AF.

This concept totally befuckles the mind! I agree with you that *IF* he has
these bodies he would be best suited to use the proper glass on them. Using
anything less than the AF-S VR 70-200mm f/2.8 G IF-ED, AF-S 17-35mm f/2.8,
AF-S 28-70mm f/2.8, and the Micro Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 is like buying a
Lamborghini and having the motor replaced with a Briggs and Stratton lawn
tractor motor. Of course, he should also pick up the 50mm and 85mm f/1.4
AF-D lenses when he gets around to it.

Rita

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