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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / April 2006filename rollover in D70
I just recently got a 4GB CF card to use with my Nikon D70. Playing with the modes, I discover that I can get over 15000 images (camera estimated) using the "Small" format, and the "Basic" level of JPEG compression. While I don't expect to use that setting (after all, I got this card so I can shoot in Raw more of the time), I just happened to realize that the image filenames are of the format DSC_####.JPG, which means that the image filenames would roll over at DSC_9999.JPG -- unless it will expand into replacing the '_' with another digit. Has anyone actually seen what happens when you roll over? I reset my filename to "0000" at the start of each year, so I've never gotten that high. I guess that I could set the filename to "DSC_9999.JPG" and shoot a couple of shots to roll it over. Hmm ... nope, I could reset it to zero, but not preset it to a specific value. I *could* create another subdirectory (which they call "folder" in the menu), and switch to that in the middle of a shooting session, but that strikes me as awkward. Thanks, DoN.  SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- > I just recently got a 4GB CF card to use with my Nikon D70. > Has anyone actually seen what happens when you roll over? I >reset my filename to "0000" at the start of each year, so I've never >gotten that high. The folder # increments and the file numbering begins again. -- Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://EdwardGRuf.com According to Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) <egruf_usenet2@cox.net>: > > I just recently got a 4GB CF card to use with my Nikon D70. > > > Has anyone actually seen what happens when you roll over? [ ... ] > The folder # increments and the file numbering begins again. Thanks, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- >> I just recently got a 4GB CF card to use with my Nikon D70. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >The folder # increments and the file numbering begins again. If it is a FAT file system there is a limit of 512 files in a folder. The properties on my card says FAT. FAT32 can have 65,534 files or folders per folder. FAT also has a limit of 4GB per volume. So bigger cards will have to be FAT32. See: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=27253 Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/> (e-mail link at page bottoms). >>> I just recently got a 4GB CF card to use with my Nikon D70. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >FAT also has a limit of 4GB per volume. This is OS dependent. For instance 4GB under Windows, limited to 2GB under MS-DOS: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/100108/#E0KE0ACAAA http://support.microsoft.com/kb/118335/EN-US/ -- Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://EdwardGRuf.com > I just recently got a 4GB CF card to use with my Nikon D70. > Playing with the modes, I discover that I can get over 15000 images [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > reset my filename to "0000" at the start of each year, so I've never > gotten that high. Didn't know you could do that. Can you tell me how it's done? Thanx, > I guess that I could set the filename to "DSC_9999.JPG" and > shoot a couple of shots to roll it over. Hmm ... nope, I could reset [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > DoN. >> Has anyone actually seen what happens when you roll over? I >> reset my filename to "0000" at the start of each year, so I've never >> gotten that high. >> >Didn't know you could do that. Can you tell me how it's done? Doesn't anyone take 30 sec to RTFM anymore? Hint: get a copy of the manual in PDF off the Nikon Tech Support Site so you can keyword search or at least use the internal links. From p. 157: Folder Names On the memory card, folder names are preceded by a three-digit folder number assigned automatically by the camera (e.g., 100NCD70) Each folder can contain up to 999 photographs. If a photograph is taken when the current folder contains 999 files or a picture numbered 9999, the camera will create a new folder by adding one to the current folder number (e.g., 101NCD70). For the purposes of selection and naming, all folders with the same name are treated as the same folder. For example, if the folder NIKON is selected, pictures in all folders named NIKON (100NIKON, 101NIKON, 102NIKON, etc.) will be visible when Current is selected in the Playback fl dr menu ( 126). Renaming similarly applies to all folders with the same name. During shooting, pictures are stored in the highest-numbered folder with the selected name. and from p. 159: File No. Seq. When a photograph is taken, the camera names the new file by adding one to the last file number used. This option controls whether file numbering continues from the last number used when a new folder is created, the memory card is formatted, or a new memory card is inserted in the camera. Highlight File No. Seq. in the setup menu ( 155) and press the multi selector to the right. Press the multi selector up or down to highlight an option, then press to the right to make a selection. Option Description On When new folder is created, memory card is formatted, or new memory card inserted in camera, file numbering continues from last number used. If photograph is taken when current folder contains photograph numbered 9999, new folder will be created automatically and file numbering will begin again from 0001. Off (default) File numbering reset to 0001 when new folder is created, memory card is formatted or new memory card is inserted in camera. Reset As for On, except file numbering is reset to 0001 with next photograph taken (new folder will be created if current folder already contains photographs). -- Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://EdwardGRuf.com It would be nice if there was an option to use the time & date as the file name. That's what happens when you shoot tethered to a laptop and it's the only option in that mode AFAAIK so it kind of messes up the consistency. PS the second to last EXIF item is the number of shots done on the camera, mine reads 33119 as of yesterday evening but that includes some time lapse movies shot at that lowest smallest setting. SignaturePaul Furman http://www.edgehill.net/1 Bay Natives http://www.baynatives.com Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote: >>> Has anyone actually seen what happens when you roll over? I >>>reset my filename to "0000" at the start of each year, so I've never [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) > http://EdwardGRuf.com >It would be nice if there was an option to use the time & date as the >file name. That's what happens when you shoot tethered to a laptop and >it's the only option in that mode AFAAIK so it kind of messes up the >consistency. Is this through Nikon Capture? Then it's the software and not the camera firmware doing the naming. -- Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://EdwardGRuf.com Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote: >>It would be nice if there was an option to use the time & date as the >>file name. That's what happens when you shoot tethered to a laptop and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Is this through Nikon Capture? Then it's the software and not the camera > firmware doing the naming. Yes Nikon Capture control. Oddly, there doesn't seem to be a way to get normal file names that way. SignaturePaul Furman http://www.edgehill.net/1 Bay Natives http://www.baynatives.com According to Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) <egruf_usenet2@cox.net>: > >> Has anyone actually seen what happens when you roll over? I > >> reset my filename to "0000" at the start of each year, so I've never [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in PDF off the Nikon Tech Support Site so you can keyword search or at > least use the internal links. I read it through two or three times when the camera was relatively new. At the time, I could not get enough images to trigger the mode on the 1GB CF cards which I had, so I promptly forgot that part. (There are other things which I have forgotten as well, I am sure.) The PDF version for keyword-searchable mode is a good idea. The dead-tree manual lives in a pocket in my gadget bag, along with the manual for the SB-800. > From p. 157: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > will create a new folder by adding one to the current folder number (e.g., > 101NCD70). *This* is going to be a nuisance with the 4GB CF card, I can see. I have a script which copies the contents of 100NCD70 to a couple of unix directories on separate filesystems, and I'm going to need to re-write it to deal with multiple directories, and with the possible rollover of the image number as well. That means that it will need to detect the 9999 number and change the '_' to '1' in the subsequent filenames. I guess that I will still be safe with RAW images, at least. > For the purposes of selection and naming, all folders with the > same name are treated as the same folder. For example, if the folder NIKON [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > name. During shooting, pictures are stored in the highest-numbered folder > with the selected name. And -- *why* did the not start with "000NCD70" or "001NCD70", so it would be more obvious that this was the start of an automatic sequence. > and from p. 159: Which is what the index in the manual led me to. This one does not mention the folder increment with 999 images in a given folder. I wonder whether this is all a result of the limitations of the FAT filesystem (whichever version is actually used here). > File No. Seq. > When a photograph is taken, the camera names the new file by adding one to [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > taken (new folder will be created if current folder already contains > photographs). Thanks, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- > According to Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) <egruf_usenet2@cox.net>: > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > part. (There are other things which I have forgotten as well, I am > sure.) Been there, done that, must be my aging memory bank <G>. Thanks to Don and Ed for pointing me to the solution.> > The PDF version for keyword-searchable mode is a good idea. The > dead-tree manual lives in a pocket in my gadget bag, along with the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > will create a new folder by adding one to the current folder number (e.g., > > 101NCD70). According to Jim <jimmi3@adelphia.net>: [ ... ] > > Has anyone actually seen what happens when you roll over? I > > reset my filename to "0000" at the start of each year, so I've never > > gotten that high. > > > Didn't know you could do that. Can you tell me how it's done? Sure. Go to the "wrench" menu (bottom one on the first level). Select "File No. Seq." You will find three choices: Off On Reset The last of these resets the number to "0001", according to the manual, not "0000". The "Off" option causes it to reset to :0001" whenever you change to a new folder, format the CF card, or insert a new CF card in the camera. I don't want *that* option, because I use the image numbers to keep images sequenced within a given year. Enjoy, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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