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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / April 2006Anyone use a LCD hoods for their DSLR?
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has used one of those LCD screen cover (hoods) that help protect and flight glare on your camera's LCD screen. I see Hoodman makes them. The ones at the local store are in blister packs so I can't try one. A little help with glare while viewing the LCD might be worth the cost. Thanks, Dave >I was wondering if anyone has used one of those LCD screen cover (hoods) >that help protect and flight glare on your camera's LCD screen. I see >Hoodman makes them. The ones at the local store are in blister packs so I >can't try one. > >A little help with glare while viewing the LCD might be worth the cost. I don't use one for my Canon XT. I looked at a couple of them and didn't like the design, so instead I picked up a film sheet for the Gameboy (I think) and cut it to fit on my LCD for some simple protection. A friend has the Nikon D70s and it comes with a clear plastic cover for the LCD which I think is a great idea (D200 does as well). According to Bill <bill@c.a>: > >I was wondering if anyone has used one of those LCD screen cover (hoods) > >that help protect and flight glare on your camera's LCD screen. I see [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > like the design, so instead I picked up a film sheet for the Gameboy (I > think) and cut it to fit on my LCD for some simple protection. Of course, no help with the glare -- but a simple cupped hand can often do what is needed there. > A friend has the Nikon D70s and it comes with a clear plastic cover for > the LCD which I think is a great idea (D200 does as well). A minor warning about those. They tend to hook on belts or other things and go missing -- and it usually takes a while for the local camera store to order a new one and get it to you. What I have done (with my *second* cover) is to spend a little time making an eye splice in some nylon twine through the hole in the lower left-hand corner of the cover (presumably made for the purpose, but not mentioned in the manual), and a similar eye splice through the loop of the left-hand camera strap where it connects to the body. This has saved me from losing the second cover about a dozen times now -- it always pops off just as I am distracted doing something else, and I notice it dangling by the safety tether. I also have cut a protective film sheet for a second layer of protection -- especially for during those times when the cover is dangling. Enjoy, DoN.  SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- >According to Bill <bill@c.a>: >> A friend has the Nikon D70s and it comes with a clear plastic cover for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >other things and go missing -- and it usually takes a while for the >local camera store to order a new one and get it to you. I've broken my first one. It only took a week. It sticks out on the bottom of the camera a little. I lifted up the camera bag from what I thought was the top, but it was the front. The camera slid out and the bottom edge hit the table. The bottom clip busted. So when I replace it (after B&H reopens) maybe I should buy two? Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/> (e-mail link at page bottoms). >> A minor warning about those. They tend to hook on belts or >>other things and go missing -- and it usually takes a while for the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the table. The bottom clip busted. So when I replace it (after B&H reopens) >maybe I should buy two? You only need one...as long as you don't drop the camera again! :-) According to Don Wiss <donwiss@no_spam.com>: > >According to Bill <bill@c.a>: > >> A friend has the Nikon D70s and it comes with a clear plastic cover for [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the table. The bottom clip busted. So when I replace it (after B&H reopens) > maybe I should buy two? How quickly can B&H provide replacements? Perhaps a lot quicker than my local stores. But a spare is not a bad idea, even if you mount a tether as I suggested before to keep intact ones from going missing. Enjoy, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- >> >According to Bill <bill@c.a>: >> >> A friend has the Nikon D70s and it comes with a clear plastic cover for >> >> the LCD which I think is a great idea (D200 does as well). > How quickly can B&H provide replacements? Perhaps a lot quicker >than my local stores. I don't know. They've been closed. But I do know that Unique Photo has them in stock, but I'm not going to bother them with a $10 mail order. If the 105VR macro lens were in stock I would have tacked it on that order. I need to get over to B&H next week anyhow. Don <www.donwiss.com/pictures/> (e-mail link at page bottoms). >> A friend has the Nikon D70s and it comes with a clear plastic cover for >> the LCD which I think is a great idea (D200 does as well). [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >time making an eye splice in some nylon twine through the hole in the >lower left-hand corner of the cover (presumably made for the purpose, Yeah, I noticed that's the first thing he did after he bought the camera. > I also have cut a protective film sheet for a second layer of >protection -- especially for during those times when the cover is >dangling. That's something I can suggest since he has had the cover pop off numerous times. He never thought to put a second bit of protection on there though. If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. Signature"I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ > If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the > basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. > > - You are a bit of an a.s, aren't you? >> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. >> >> - >You are a bit of an a.s, aren't you? No, I just think if you understand the basics you don't worry about insignificant things and spend the time improving the important skills like composition and lighting rather than looking at a rather useless tiny LCD. Signature"I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ >>> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > like composition and lighting rather than looking at a rather useless > tiny LCD. I think I've just come across another religion to add to my list of whacko Internet religions. Signature--John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) J. Clarke wrote (in article <e2al0p02vlj@news4.newsguy.com>): >>>> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>>> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I think I've just come across another religion to add to my list of whacko > Internet religions. LOL It's bizarre how subgroups are so insistent upon inventing new words for things. Note that if had simply described the behavior in actual English, most of this thread would not have even been necessary. SignatureRandy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR) "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw >No, I just think if you understand the basics you don't worry about >insignificant things and spend the time improving the important skills >like composition and lighting rather than looking at a rather useless >tiny LCD. You could probably learn quite a lot about composition and lighting by looking at an LCD. It's a pity that your misplaced air of superiority won't allow you to. >>No, I just think if you understand the basics you don't worry about >>insignificant things and spend the time improving the important skills [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >looking at an LCD. It's a pity that your misplaced air of superiority >won't allow you to. Much better to learn whilst the seen is still in front of you than after you get home, even if the information provided is limited. I don't often use mine, a couple of times when photographing a fast moving Golden Lion Tamarin because I suspected it had changed direction whilst taking the photograph. SignatureIan G8ILZ >Much better to learn whilst the seen is still in front of you than after >you get home, even if the information provided is limited. My point exactly. >>>No, I just think if you understand the basics you don't worry about >>>insignificant things and spend the time improving the important skills [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Tamarin because I suspected it had changed direction whilst taking the >photograph. What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. Signature"I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ According to John A. Stovall <johnastovall@earthlink.net>: [ ... ] > >Much better to learn whilst the seen is still in front of you than after > >you get home, even if the information provided is limited. I don't often [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. Which, of course, is blanked during the actual moment of the exposure, so you can see the direction just before the exposure, and just after, but not during the exposure, so I can see the need to chimp with a fast-moving subject which frequently changes direction. Enjoy, DoN. SignatureEmail: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- >>>>No, I just think if you understand the basics you don't worry about >>>>insignificant things and spend the time improving the important skills [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. What was seen before it blanks and what is seen after it blanks does not mean that the scene recorded is what I intended. I have usually had a good idea when using film and would take a few extra shots to improve the prospect of having the 'one good frame'(tm), but a quick glance at the thumbnail with burn-outs and histogram shown will let me know if I should spend time retaking or moving on to another subject. SignatureIan G8ILZ >What was seen before it blanks and what is seen after it blanks does not >mean that the scene recorded is what I intended. I have usually had a >good idea when using film and would take a few extra shots to improve >the prospect of having the 'one good frame'(tm), but a quick glance at >the thumbnail with burn-outs and histogram shown will let me know if I >should spend time retaking or moving on to another subject. You got it completely wrong. John A. Stovall is completely right. You should resist all temptation to look at the camera's LCD after taking a shot. It is there only to display menus, and you can only look at it before taking a shot . You must go straight home without looking at the LCD. Only then are you allowed to look at the results of your day's work, and only on the computer screen. The idea that anyone should look at their results on the camera's LCD just after taking a shot is preposterous. If you do this, you can only be a chimpanzee. A photographer would never do such a thing. > What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. Who do pros use polaroids in the studio? Even with completely controlled lighting. Paul Furman wrote (in article <cCt2g.70678$Jd.59530@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>): >> What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. > > Who do pros use polaroids in the studio? > Even with completely controlled lighting. Because pros aren't afraid of being told they are "chimping" when their responsibility is to get the correct shots, the first time, without having to redo the shoot? SignatureRandy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR) "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw >>>What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > when their responsibility is to get the correct shots, the first > time, without having to redo the shoot? I'm not afraid of chimping. If I'm being careful and thoughtful, I'll remember to check the LCD. Sometimes I'm too rushed or need to concentrate on the next shot & keep my eyes open. For studio type work the best setup is tethered to a laptop so I can preview full size & fine tune things. Paul Furman wrote (in article <Cbu2g.70690$Jd.5365@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>): >>>> What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I'm not afraid of chimping. I didn't say or imply that you are. I was referring more to John's apparent belief that using one is an admission of weakness or something. > If I'm being careful and thoughtful, I'll > remember to check the LCD. Sometimes I'm too rushed or need to > concentrate on the next shot & keep my eyes open. For studio type work > the best setup is tethered to a laptop so I can preview full size & fine > tune things. I find that it is useful primarily with flash photography, particularly portrait work. I rarely do it, apart from for friends and family, so not being well versed in it, I tend to have to do a lot of tweaking to get it like I want it. Also, not having a lot of good lighting equipment for that type of work makes it more difficult. When shooting "fast", i.e. in a location where I keep the camera to my eye most of the time, I don't care what the LCD has on it. SignatureRandy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR) "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw >>If I'm being careful and thoughtful, I'll >>remember to check the LCD. Sometimes I'm too rushed or need to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > not having a lot of good lighting equipment for that type of > work makes it more difficult. Yeah I just did the laptop thing the other day with backlit windows & flash. I suck at flash but managed to pull it off. I generally suck at studio type work so I need it. It took me dozens of tries with posing & lighting, window treatment, switching to an old larger flash, and heavy post processing (RAW for the final set) to get something decent: <http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/misc-photos/2006-04-19-glasses> The preview process forces me to be very methodical. Much more than I normally am. >I didn't say or imply that you are. I was referring more to >John's apparent belief that using one is an admission of >weakness or something. John's overt distaste for chimping is itself a sign of weakness. God help anyone who is so gratuitously aware of themselves. >> What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. > > Who do pros use polaroids in the studio? > Even with completely controlled lighting. So anyway, I did get a lens hood for my D70. But the problem was that I kept flipping it open to look, then forgetting to close it before putting my eye to the viewfinder and bashing my cheek with it. Seriously. Cynicor wrote (in article <8-qdnT0wtdig6tfZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>): >>> What's what you use the viewfinder of d-SLR for. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > kept flipping it open to look, then forgetting to close it before > putting my eye to the viewfinder and bashing my cheek with it. Seriously. A baseball cap works fine outdoors. :-) SignatureRandy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR) "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw > Cynicor wrote > (in article <8-qdnT0wtdig6tfZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>): [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > A baseball cap works fine outdoors. :-) My head is bigger than Ted Kennedy's. One-size-fits-all hats don't stretch over my head right, so I look like a 1970s outfielder the way my hair sticks out both sides. >> Cynicor wrote >> (in article <8-qdnT0wtdig6tfZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>): [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > way > my hair sticks out both sides. Child: Ma! The kids make fun of me! They say my head's too big. Ma: That's silly. Your head is not too big. Here, take this money and bring me ten pounds of potatoes from the store. Child: OK, Ma. Give me a bag to carry them in. Ma: Use your cap. >So anyway, I did get a lens hood for my D70. But the problem was that I >kept flipping it open to look, then forgetting to close it before >putting my eye to the viewfinder and bashing my cheek with it. Seriously. My friend has the D70s and I've used it on several outings. I've never felt that it needs a hood over the LCD since it has a very bright and clear menu display, a lot better than my Canon XT or my other friends 20D. I gotta give Nikon credit for the menus - much nicer than Canon. With my XT, I have to shade the display with my hand to see it. I don't usually review images on the display though, so maybe for that the display isn't as good outdoors...I'll try that next time and see how it works. >>> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > like composition and lighting rather than looking at a rather useless > tiny LCD. I was wrong, you are a supercilious, pompous twit. >>>If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>>basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > like composition and lighting rather than looking at a rather useless > tiny LCD. Aw, nuts! You're not going to start with the "my way or the highway" BS agin? Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' > If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the > basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. Chimp????? Signature--John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) >> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. > >Chimp????? Google Chimping digital photography. Signature"I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ >>>If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>>basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. >> >>Chimp????? > > Google Chimping digital photography. Nah, don't do that. Chimping is the excessive looking at the Review screen, pointing at the image, and making little grunting sounds, and waving an arm to get others to look. It's not to be confused with sensible review of histogram and image cropping in order to make adjustments. Signaturejohn mcwilliams >>> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. >> >>Chimp????? > >Google Chimping digital photography. But why "chimp"? SignatureIan G8ILZ >>>> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>>> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > But why "chimp"? See post about 3 hours earlier. Signaturejohn mcwilliams >>>>> If you don't chimp you don't needed them and if you know and use the >>>>> basic of good exposure technique you don't need to chimp. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >See post about 3 hours earlier. Sorry, but glancing at the LCD to confirm uncertain framing of a dynamic subject to save taking multiple frames is hardly the behaviour of Pan Troglodytes; I think you are being anthropomorphic and projecting your Homo Sapien behaviour on to non-humans. SignatureIan G8ILZ >>>> Google Chimping digital photography. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Troglodytes; I think you are being anthropomorphic and projecting your > Homo Sapien behaviour on to non-humans. I can't tell whether I've been insulted, complimented, or just whooshed.... so have a nice evening. SignatureJohn McWilliams I have a Hoodman hood. They work but are very cheesily constructed. I do not believe one brand is any less cheesy than another. The manufacturer replaced this one already but said it won't replace anymore. While they can indeed allow you to see the LCD in sunlight I do not know if they are indispensable. When, not if, this one breaks I will not replace it. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks, > Dave I use a Hoodman on my Nikon D70. The D70 comes with a plastic cover for the LCD which is fine for indoors, but the Hoodman makes it possible to view outdoors...only downside is that you really need to close it up to take a shot. George >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > George I had one of those on a Canon 20D. I agree that it is useful in the sun, and that it gets in the way unless closed. I'll add: it's not very well designed or put together. The first one (factory direct) was disassembled in transit, replaced quickly and cheerfully. The second one lasted a thousand shots before losing a spring and becoming a manually-operated appliance in both opening and closing procedures. A few shots in that condition and it became shelf-ware: another coulda-been that's now a "nice try." SignatureFrank ess > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks, > Dave I have a hoodman boot thing, but not mounted, just hanging on the string it comes with, hangs off the camera. I use it on sunny days when it is hard to see the LCD. Works very well. But mounted, it is too clumsy. Patrick |
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