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Canon, Canon, Canon; Probs with 30D!

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RichA - 08 Apr 2006 00:43 GMT
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John A. Stovall - 08 Apr 2006 02:05 GMT
Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?

Don't know about the 30D but my 5D is a great camera and performs
wonderfully.

I suspect most of the people who have problems with Cameras and Lenses
just don't know how to use much more than a throwaway camera anyway or
just like to whine for the sake of whining rather than mastering the
art of photography.

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Pentax Fan - 08 Apr 2006 02:38 GMT
> Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> just like to whine for the sake of whining rather than mastering the
> art of photography.<<

Aren't overly large cameras a bit like flashy powerful cars? - a subliminal
compensation for a small penis?

Get yourself a Pentax, and discover truly masculine photography.
Skip M - 08 Apr 2006 05:17 GMT
>> Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Get yourself a Pentax, and discover truly masculine photography.

Comparing the size of penises, cars and cameras only matters to those who
don't use them...

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Pentax Fan - 08 Apr 2006 11:20 GMT
>>> Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Comparing the size of penises, cars and cameras only matters to those who
> don't use them...

If there is one thing that Pentax owners know how to do, it's use their
equipment.

Small, but perfectly formed.........as the saying goes

Actually, camera ownership does rather mirror life;  we have Canon owners -
well, they're the giggling slappers putting themselves about on a Friday
night, anyone's for a few extra buttons and a pretty box.  Nikon owners are
a good deal more thuggish - shaven headed oiks with 'NIKON' tattooed across
their knuckles whom decent people cross the road to avoid.

The Bronica and Leica crowd are timid aesthetes with delicate sensibilities
and even more delicate lenses, who rarely venture out amongst the seething
masses, lest they contract a dreaded working class disease and die within a
week.

Pentax owners, on the other hand, are the honest backbone of camera owners -
neither pretentious, nor flighty, nor unpleasantly aggressive, their solid
no-nonsense respectability and tireless dedication to their craft is the
rock upon which photography is built.
Siggy - 08 Apr 2006 11:23 GMT
8<

> Pentax owners, on the other hand,

And soon to become extinct.

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ian lincoln - 08 Apr 2006 15:46 GMT
"Pentax Fan" <photography@thecuttingedge.com> wrote in message

> Pentax owners, on the other hand, are the honest backbone of camera
> owners - neither pretentious,

I do hope this a humourous, sarcastic post.
John McWilliams - 08 Apr 2006 16:25 GMT
>>Comparing the size of penises, cars and cameras only matters to those who
>>don't use them...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Small, but perfectly formed.........as the saying goes

Well, you said it.

> Actually, camera ownership does rather mirror life;  we have Canon owners -

previously posted stuff snipped....

> Pentax owners, on the other hand, are the honest backbone of camera owners -
> neither pretentious, nor flighty, nor unpleasantly aggressive.....

Then why do some of them post so unpleasantly to usenet?

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unconcerned - 09 Apr 2006 02:44 GMT
>>>Comparing the size of penises, cars and cameras only matters to those who
>>>don't use them...
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Then why do some of them post so unpleasantly to usenet?<<

Your own post nicely sums up the difficulties posed by Americans on the
'net - without humour, without common sense, without any ability to laugh at
themselves, whatsoever, they lumber and crash their way along the
information super-highway like great supine politically correct beasts.

No wonder your corrupt politicians so easily slip their rope through your
nose rings and lead you off to war.
Skip M - 09 Apr 2006 06:35 GMT
> Your own post nicely sums up the difficulties posed by Americans on the
> 'net - without humour, without common sense, without any ability to laugh
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> No wonder your corrupt politicians so easily slip their rope through your
> nose rings and lead you off to war.

That was probably the most unfair, least thought out and most incorrect off
topic post I've seen here, in a while.  I can't even begin to enumerate the
inaccuracies, they are so numerous, an astounding feat for such a short
post.  Let me just say that any society that produces a Mark Twain and a
Will Rogers cannot be said to be unable to laugh at itself.

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Skip M - 08 Apr 2006 16:41 GMT
>> Comparing the size of penises, cars and cameras only matters to those who
>> don't use them...
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> their solid no-nonsense respectability and tireless dedication to their
> craft is the rock upon which photography is built.

I hope I detect humor in this post.  To continue the idea, though, Pentax MF
users, the guys who are REALLY serious about what they do, fit in the the
niche filled in the real world by the guys who lift weights on Malibu
beach...

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RW+/- - 08 Apr 2006 17:37 GMT
>>> Comparing the size of penises, cars and cameras only matters to those who
>>> don't use them...
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> niche filled in the real world by the guys who lift weights on Malibu
> beach...

I'm sure you meant Venice Beach, in Malibu the trainers do it for you. ')
(Santa Monica/Venice)
Skip M - 08 Apr 2006 18:30 GMT
>>> Pentax owners, on the other hand, are the honest backbone of camera
>>> owners - neither pretentious, nor flighty, nor unpleasantly aggressive,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'm sure you meant Venice Beach, in Malibu the trainers do it for you. ')
> (Santa Monica/Venice)

You're right, meant Venice, not Malibu.

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Rich - 08 Apr 2006 05:39 GMT
>> Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Get yourself a Pentax, and discover truly masculine photography.

Not with a plastic body you won't.  I think Pentax's flagship digital
has a metal body, but it's hard to tell the three of them apart.
-Rich
Rich - 08 Apr 2006 05:38 GMT
>Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?

Well, maybe I do?

>Don't know about the 30D but my 5D is a great camera and performs
>wonderfully.

The 5D seems to be a particularly flawless example of Canon product.

>I suspect most of the people who have problems with Cameras and Lenses
>just don't know how to use much more than a throwaway camera anyway or
>just like to whine for the sake of whining rather than mastering the
>art of photography.

No...I think the thread pointed out they weren't all cranks and that
there are problems.  Read it again, with the attachments.
-Rich
Skip M - 08 Apr 2006 06:13 GMT
>>Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> there are problems.  Read it again, with the attachments.
> -Rich

You mean the part where the OP said, "I did. I reread it. I'm bad with
comprehension. I get it now. I think once you use the multi-controller, it
stays on that focus point, so yes, it was not random. This is one of those
times where technology gets in the way (for me). Now that I know, I know to
press the [+] right-thumb button after doing a selective AF point with the
multi-controller. I wish the viewfinder display wouldn't sleep so fast
though."
That looks like inexperience to me, doesn't it to you?
Non of the replies to that thread indicate any problems with the camera
other than a lack of knowledge on the part of the operator. And I read every
one up to 2 hours ago.
Rich, you are getting as bad as Preddy...if not worse.

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Gizmo - 08 Apr 2006 15:11 GMT
> Why to do you care Rich, since you don't own a dSLR of any kind?

Because he knows someone will bite    ;o)

Killfile the twat, and move on !
G.T. - 08 Apr 2006 05:31 GMT
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=17936912

You're f.cking disturbed to be so excited about other's misfortunes.  Do
you cheer car accidents?

Greg

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RichA - 08 Apr 2006 09:15 GMT
Only a Canon fanatic would relate a problem with a camera to
equivalency with a car accident!!!
G.T. - 08 Apr 2006 19:29 GMT
> Only a Canon fanatic would relate a problem with a camera to
> equivalency with a car accident!!!

Only a sociopath would relish in other's misfortunes.  You are seriously
f.cked up.

Greg

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Skip M - 09 Apr 2006 06:37 GMT
>> Only a Canon fanatic would relate a problem with a camera to
>> equivalency with a car accident!!!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Greg

That would be true, if it were someone's misfortunes he's relishing.  But he
makes 'em up as he goes along.  If you read the thread, it's unfamiliarity
with the camera that caused the problem, not anything endemic to the camera
itself.  Unless inexperienced users could be said to be endemic to Canon
30Ds...

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G.T. - 09 Apr 2006 09:15 GMT
>>>Only a Canon fanatic would relate a problem with a camera to
>>>equivalency with a car accident!!!
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> itself.  Unless inexperienced users could be said to be endemic to Canon
> 30Ds...

He's still relishing in someone's discomfort with their camera.
Sociopathic behavior.

Greg

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Rich - 09 Apr 2006 23:15 GMT
>>>>Only a Canon fanatic would relate a problem with a camera to
>>>>equivalency with a car accident!!!
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Greg

Like a car wreck?
John A. Stovall - 08 Apr 2006 14:13 GMT
>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=17936912
>
>You're f.cking disturbed to be so excited about other's misfortunes.  Do
>you cheer car accidents?

Rich does this when he can't get to his dominatrix or can't pay her,
so others will kick him around a bit.  
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Siggy - 08 Apr 2006 14:51 GMT
>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=17936912
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Rich does this when he can't get to his dominatrix or can't pay her,
> so others will kick him around a bit.

And you lot are happy to oblige him. I wonder what the term is for that
particular psychosis?

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John McWilliams - 08 Apr 2006 16:28 GMT
>>Rich does this when he can't get to his dominatrix or can't pay her,
>>so others will kick him around a bit.
>
> And you lot are happy to oblige him. I wonder what the term is for that
> particular psychosis?

Chronic postitis....
ian lincoln - 08 Apr 2006 15:46 GMT
>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=17936912
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Rich does this when he can't get to his dominatrix or can't pay her,
> so others will kick him around a bit.

If you don't pay your dominatrix does she kick the sh.t out of you or be
very nice to you? ;oP
Skip M - 08 Apr 2006 16:43 GMT
>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=17936912
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Rich does this when he can't get to his dominatrix or can't pay her,
> so others will kick him around a bit.

If that's the problem, I can put him in touch with one or two that I've
photographed.  I'll even pony up the difference between the pittance he
usually pays and what these charge...

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RW+/- - 08 Apr 2006 17:39 GMT
>>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=17936912
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> photographed.  I'll even pony up the difference between the pittance he
> usually pays and what these charge...

I'll pay for the glass chards in the cat'o'nine tails. (sp)
Skip M - 08 Apr 2006 18:31 GMT
>>>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=17936912
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> I'll pay for the glass chards in the cat'o'nine tails. (sp)

Lead tips are what the Romans used to use...nothing like going back to the
classics...

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RichA - 09 Apr 2006 00:42 GMT
Why pay a dominatrix?  If I wanted that kind of treatment, I'd buy a
new model Canon!!!
G.T. - 09 Apr 2006 01:30 GMT
> Why pay a dominatrix?  If I wanted that kind of treatment, I'd buy a
> new model Canon!!!

Wow, Rich made a funny.  Will wonders never cease?

Greg

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Randall Ainsworth - 09 Apr 2006 03:00 GMT
> Why pay a dominatrix?  If I wanted that kind of treatment, I'd buy a
> new model Canon!!!

At least you'd actually *own* a camera, which you don't now.
Skip M - 09 Apr 2006 06:41 GMT
> Why pay a dominatrix?  If I wanted that kind of treatment, I'd buy a
> new model Canon!!!

Ah, well, it had to happen.  The idiot spoke.  Please, Rich, buy a camera,
will you?  You can't find anything to do, now, with your time, so maybe, if
you had a camera, you'd fill it up taking pictures to bore your friends,
family and casual acquaintances with.  You made up a story about problems
with the 30D, you've continually carped on imagined limitations of Canon
lenses on the 5D, all because you can't find documented instances of these
problems you so cheerfully trumpet to all and sundry.
You're a loser, Rich, in all the nuances of that word.

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Rich - 09 Apr 2006 08:15 GMT
>> Why pay a dominatrix?  If I wanted that kind of treatment, I'd buy a
>> new model Canon!!!
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>problems you so cheerfully trumpet to all and sundry.
>You're a loser, Rich, in all the nuances of that word.

Canon whore's opinion noted and dispensed with.
-Rich
Randall Ainsworth - 09 Apr 2006 13:58 GMT
> Canon whore's opinion noted and dispensed with.
> -Rich

Get a life.
Rich - 09 Apr 2006 23:16 GMT
>> Canon whore's opinion noted and dispensed with.
>> -Rich
>
>Get a life.

How old is your life, 15?
-Rich
Skip M - 10 Apr 2006 04:13 GMT
>>> Why pay a dominatrix?  If I wanted that kind of treatment, I'd buy a
>>> new model Canon!!!
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Canon whore's opinion noted and dispensed with.
> -Rich

Better than a slut for attention.

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Randall Ainsworth - 08 Apr 2006 17:51 GMT
OK, one guy is retarded (well, two if we include you).
RichA - 09 Apr 2006 00:44 GMT
I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
worshipped product is
like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"
Charles Schuler - 09 Apr 2006 00:56 GMT
>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
> worshipped product is
> like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"

And we need your crap to understand this or anything else?
Rich - 09 Apr 2006 01:46 GMT
>>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
>> worshipped product is
>> like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"
>
>And we need your crap to understand this or anything else?

Glad you admit you understand it.
Randall Ainsworth - 09 Apr 2006 03:01 GMT
> I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
> worshipped product is
> like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"

The only button you've ever pushed is the one in your pants.
Skip M - 09 Apr 2006 06:42 GMT
>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
> worshipped product is
> like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"

What "shortcoming" did you point out, Rickie?

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Rich - 09 Apr 2006 08:17 GMT
>>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
>> worshipped product is
>> like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"
>>
>What "shortcoming" did you point out, Rickie?

That Canon is seriously unable to launch a model that doesn't have to
be debugged by the initial users.  A happy "error 99" to you!  :)
-Rich
Helen - 09 Apr 2006 09:44 GMT
>>What "shortcoming" did you point out, Rickie?
>
> That Canon is seriously unable to launch a model that doesn't have to
> be debugged by the initial users.  A happy "error 99" to you!  :)

I bet you sit there, deliriously happy and secure in the knowledge that you
can't possibly ever encounter any problems whatsoever with a digital
camera - because you simply don't own one.  I'll bet you squeak in damply
orgasmic delight whenever you spot any negative comments about cameras
because you can then say "Banding? Back focus? Plastic? Error 99? Yay,
those'll never happen to me!"
Rich - 09 Apr 2006 23:15 GMT
>>>What "shortcoming" did you point out, Rickie?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>because you can then say "Banding? Back focus? Plastic? Error 99? Yay,
>those'll never happen to me!"

You forgot susceptability to moisture.
I'd leave plastic out because it doesn't actually prevent use of the
camera, at least until those plastic-backed Sony CCDs started failing.
But you are right, it won't happen to me even though I do own a
camera.
-Rich
Skip M - 10 Apr 2006 04:15 GMT
>>>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
>>> worshipped product is
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> be debugged by the initial users.  A happy "error 99" to you!  :)
> -Rich

There was absolutely no problem noted in the thread you quoted except that
the posting gentleman misread the manual.  You still haven't pointed out the
"shortcoming" you so resolutely claim you showed.
(And no Canon camera I've ever had showed an Error 99 with any Canon lens.
You just can't resist, can you?)

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Rich - 11 Apr 2006 00:35 GMT
>>>>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
>>>> worshipped product is
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>(And no Canon camera I've ever had showed an Error 99 with any Canon lens.
>You just can't resist, can you?)

Well then, I guess then it IS no problem since YOU bought every one of
Canon's million-selling DSLRs?  Is THAT your argument?
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,430,000 for canon error 99.
Skip M - 11 Apr 2006 01:50 GMT
'Bye, Rich

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Helen - 09 Apr 2006 09:40 GMT
>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
> worshipped product is
> like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"

At least we have cameras, with buttons to push.
Unlike you.
Rich - 09 Apr 2006 23:16 GMT
>>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
>> worshipped product is
>> like pushing a button that says "Do not Push!"
>
>At least we have cameras, with buttons to push.
>Unlike you.

All evidence to the contrary.
-Rich
Skip M - 10 Apr 2006 04:17 GMT
>>>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
>>> worshipped product is
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> All evidence to the contrary.
> -Rich

The only evidence you've shown is that you are a middle aged man with a
pathological need for attention, and no legitimate way to get it.

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Rich - 11 Apr 2006 00:33 GMT
>>>>I love Canon fanatics.  Pointing out any shortcomings in their
>>>> worshipped product is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>The only evidence you've shown is that you are a middle aged man with a
>pathological need for attention, and no legitimate way to get it.

Just admit you Canon fanatics are thin-skinned clowns who just
HATE it whenever someone points out a problem with one of your
cameras.  My advice?  Write to Canon and TELL them to stop selling
cameras that have so many QC problems.
-Rich
Siggy - 11 Apr 2006 10:45 GMT
> Just admit you Canon fanatics are thin-skinned clowns who just
> HATE it whenever someone points out a problem with one of your
> cameras.  My advice?  Write to Canon and TELL them to stop selling
> cameras that have so many QC problems.
> -Rich

You do yourself no favours with this sort of nonsense, Rich.
Look at what happened to the Kodak DSLR. They killed it because owners
returned them and people stopped buying them. Not by writing letters.
Helen - 11 Apr 2006 20:41 GMT
> Just admit you Canon fanatics are thin-skinned clowns who just
> HATE it whenever someone points out a problem with one of your
> cameras.

Hey knobhead - at least we HAVE cameras.
Rich - 12 Apr 2006 01:28 GMT
>> Just admit you Canon fanatics are thin-skinned clowns who just
>> HATE it whenever someone points out a problem with one of your
>> cameras.
>
>Hey knobhead - at least we HAVE cameras.

Do you ever use them?
 
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