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How weatherproof is the Nikon D200?

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Roy Smith - 25 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
I've read about the D200's rugged body and weatherproof seals.  Just how
rugged is the thing?

I like to shoot sailboats out on the water (http://tinyurl.com/z3jcg).  I
used to take my OM-2, now I use my PS-400).  I'm careful to only go out in
benign conditions and protect the camera as much as possible, but the
occasional bit of salt water spray is inevitable.  Even if no visible water
ever touches the camera or lens, the air is saturated with salt droplets.  
Would I be nuts to take a D200 (and an expensive VR zoom lens) out on a
boat?
Charles Schuler - 25 Mar 2006 23:48 GMT
> I've read about the D200's rugged body and weatherproof seals.  Just how
> rugged is the thing?
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> Would I be nuts to take a D200 (and an expensive VR zoom lens) out on a
> boat?

Try it and let us know.
Skip M - 26 Mar 2006 14:51 GMT
> I've read about the D200's rugged body and weatherproof seals.  Just how
> rugged is the thing?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Would I be nuts to take a D200 (and an expensive VR zoom lens) out on a
> boat?

My wife, and her Canon 5D, got drenched by a direct hit from a wave on a
shoot at the beach a couple of months ago.  There was no damage to the
camera, only to her dignity.  We had the camera checked out, and there was
no sign of any leakage.  On the assumption that the D200 is better sealed
(that's the reputation, but still, only an assumption,) I'd say, in the
conditions you mention, you'll be ok.  If it were a problem, any use of less
than pro camera/lens combinations at the beach would be out of bounds.

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Jon B - 26 Mar 2006 18:25 GMT
> > I've read about the D200's rugged body and weatherproof seals.  Just how
> > rugged is the thing?
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> conditions you mention, you'll be ok.  If it were a problem, any use of less
> than pro camera/lens combinations at the beach would be out of bounds.

Isn't salt water meant to play absolute havoc with the seals? I'd
imagine salt would soon eat its way through the electronics inside too
if it gets that far.

I was chatting to a pro at a uk car rally event a few weeks ago, however
his main line of work is power boat racing, so he runs one of the D2
range for the much better seals (if it helps ID the model it does
wireless), however it still has to go off every few months for a
service, and in fact on that particular weekend he was covering the
event using his D200 as that is exactly where his D2 was, off for
service.

He didn't report any problems with the 70-200 [1] 2.8 VR lens he was
using.

Spending that kind of cash I'd be tempted to email Nikon, or one of the
boating magazines and ask what they use/recommend and any problems they
run into, I'd be inclined to think the extra £800 for the D2HS with its
enviromentally sealed body could be money well spent in saved servicing
over its life.

[1] Or was it 210? specs off top of head I'm not so familiar with Nikon
specs either.
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Skip M - 27 Mar 2006 13:44 GMT
>> > I've read about the D200's rugged body and weatherproof seals.  Just
>> > how
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> imagine salt would soon eat its way through the electronics inside too
> if it gets that far.

I'm not sure about the seals, but you're right about the electronics.  She
wiped the exterior of the camera down immediately, and we took it to a
repair center for a check up the next day.  No sign of damage.
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Jon B - 27 Mar 2006 15:24 GMT
> > Isn't salt water meant to play absolute havoc with the seals? I'd
> > imagine salt would soon eat its way through the electronics inside too
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> wiped the exterior of the camera down immediately, and we took it to a
> repair center for a check up the next day.  No sign of damage.

If you've immediately wiped it down you probably caught most of the
water before it had chance to seap through. My line of work means I do
get to see what happens when water and electrics mix, so I know how much
of a difference additives make, sugar is a killer to the boards.
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Skip M - 28 Mar 2006 05:34 GMT
>> > Isn't salt water meant to play absolute havoc with the seals? I'd
>> > imagine salt would soon eat its way through the electronics inside too
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> get to see what happens when water and electrics mix, so I know how much
> of a difference additives make, sugar is a killer to the boards.

That's what we figured, and why we carried a towel with us, as usual, on
these beach shoots.
As a long time sailor (as in sail boats, not the US Navy) I, too have seen
what water, especially salt water, can do to most everything, not to mention
electronics...

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cjcampbell - 28 Mar 2006 07:14 GMT
> That's what we figured, and why we carried a towel with us, as usual, on
> these beach shoots.
> As a long time sailor (as in sail boats, not the US Navy) I, too have seen
> what water, especially salt water, can do to most everything, not to mention
> electronics...

Salt water is extremely nasty all right. But with reasonable care (and
a towel) I have managed to care for the D70 and its lenses without any
damage from salt spray or sand. A D200 should be a piece of cake
(relatively speaking).
Skip M - 28 Mar 2006 13:38 GMT
>> That's what we figured, and why we carried a towel with us, as usual, on
>> these beach shoots.
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> damage from salt spray or sand. A D200 should be a piece of cake
> (relatively speaking).

I'd say so, too.  I think that this environmental sealing question is
overblown, frankly.  With reasonable care, any but the photographers who
shoot in rainforests or hurricanes will have no problems.  Treat your
equipment well, and it will reciprocate.

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cjcampbell - 29 Mar 2006 02:40 GMT
> >> That's what we figured, and why we carried a towel with us, as usual, on
> >> these beach shoots.
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> shoot in rainforests or hurricanes will have no problems.  Treat your
> equipment well, and it will reciprocate.

Um, actually, I do shoot in rain forests and hurricanes. And I still
have no problems.
Skip M - 29 Mar 2006 04:32 GMT
>> >> That's what we figured, and why we carried a towel with us, as usual,
>> >> on
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> Um, actually, I do shoot in rain forests and hurricanes. And I still
> have no problems.

Well, now, see?  There you go...

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Kyle Jones - 27 Mar 2006 04:45 GMT
> My wife, and her Canon 5D, got drenched by a direct hit from a wave on a
> shoot at the beach a couple of months ago.  There was no damage to the
> camera, only to her dignity.  We had the camera checked out, and there was
> no sign of any leakage.

What lens did she have mounted at the time?
Skip M - 27 Mar 2006 13:41 GMT
>> My wife, and her Canon 5D, got drenched by a direct hit from a wave on a
>> shoot at the beach a couple of months ago.  There was no damage to the
>> camera, only to her dignity.  We had the camera checked out, and there
>> was no sign of any leakage.
>
> What lens did she have mounted at the time?

24-70 f2.8L, which does have an o-ring on the mount.  That probably helped,
but in the conditions the OP mentioned, much less severe, that's a moot
point.

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Paul Furman - 26 Mar 2006 19:15 GMT
> I've read about the D200's rugged body and weatherproof seals.  Just how
> rugged is the thing?
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> Would I be nuts to take a D200 (and an expensive VR zoom lens) out on a
> boat?

I believe only a very limited number of lenses actually have rubber
seals in the mount... so if a wave hits, point down!
John A. Stovall - 26 Mar 2006 21:21 GMT
This whole issue of weatherproofing is too over rated by those who
have nothing better to do than worry and not take pictures.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/5d-field.shtml

"The Canon 5D is a typical prosumer camera in terms of weather sealing
and build quality. I would therefore expect that photographers will be
able to shoot in conditions where the photographer will give up long
before the camera does."

Read the complete section, "Compared to a 1Ds MKII", then go out and
take pictures...

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cjcampbell - 27 Mar 2006 03:46 GMT
> I've read about the D200's rugged body and weatherproof seals.  Just how
> rugged is the thing?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Would I be nuts to take a D200 (and an expensive VR zoom lens) out on a
> boat?

I shoot with the D70. It has no weatherproofing and many of the lenses
are not sealed, either. I have had this camera out in the weather
during the peak of a typhoon. I have stood on a jetty during a typhoon
and taken pictures of waves while I was being sprayed with salt water
and blasted with sand. The D70 and all of its lenses continue to work
just fine. I rather suspect that the D200 with a weather sealed lens
should hold up very well for the kind of work you want to do.

These pictures were taken on a nice day (the first one being taken by
my wife).

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