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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / March 2006Upgrade from 20D to 30 worth it ???
Hi All, I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new 30D when it becomes available in the US. Other than the larger screen size do you really think it will be worth upgrading to the 30D for the price or would you just keep your 20D ? Thanks Joey >I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new >30D when it becomes available in the US. > >Other than the larger screen size do you really think it will be worth >upgrading to the 30D for the price or would you just keep your 20D ? Price is absolute, but affordability is relative. Personally, I can not see myself upgrading from 20D to 30D. I see the 30D as the camera to get now, if you were about to get a 20D, but the 30D appeared on the scene. 1/3 stop ISOs, and spot metering are nice, but I really require the following to "upgrade" to the same sensor and RAW data: 1) auto-ISO for manual mode (you pick aperture, shutter speed, and EC, and camera selects ISO) that would really put the 1/3 stop ISOs to good use! 2) +3 in the EC dial 3) RAW RGB histogram. 4) Banding-free output  Signature<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> John P Sheehy <JPS@no.komm> ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< > I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new > 30D when it becomes available in the US. > > Other than the larger screen size do you really think it will be worth > upgrading to the 30D for the price or would you just keep your 20D ? I still haven't seen a good reason to upgrade from my 10D. >> In article <12241kmg57b4r4d@corp.supernews.com>, Joey >> <J_nospam_ls@moultriega.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> I still haven't seen a good reason to upgrade from my 10D. I'll give you one. Ultra violet light. The 10D can't cope with it anywhere near as well as a 20D or later. Otherwise I think the 10D is the pick of all Canon consumer DSLRs. Of course when you get into the 1 series of Professional cameras, you realize how crappy all the others really are. Signaturewww.photosbydouglas.com www.weprint2canvas.com If you really must write,use my name at an above domain. >>> In article <12241kmg57b4r4d@corp.supernews.com>, Joey >>> <J_nospam_ls@moultriega.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > when you get into the 1 series of Professional cameras, you realize how > crappy all the others really are. Or you could put a filter on the front. > I'll give you one. > Ultra violet light. > The 10D can't cope with it anywhere near as well as a 20D or later. > Otherwise I think the 10D is the pick of all Canon consumer DSLRs. Of course > when you get into the 1 series of Professional cameras, you realize how > crappy all the others really are. I can't justify that kind of $$ or I'd have done it in the beginning. >> I'll give you one. >> Ultra violet light. >> The 10D can't cope with it anywhere near as well as a 20D or later. >> Otherwise I think the 10D is the pick of all Canon consumer DSLRs. Of course >> when you get into the 1 series of Professional cameras, you realize how >> crappy all the others really are. >I can't justify that kind of $$ or I'd have done it in the beginning. The professional series cameras aren't always sterling imagers. I have spent a lot of time looking at RAW data from 1-series cameras on Rob Galbraith's Forums when people post problem pics, and there are many imaging problems. Some 1Ds cameras, for instance, tend to have different amplification every other line, so half the green pixels are at a different gain from the others, and most RAW converters treat that as luminance data (if different colors scaled differently, that would just be considered a WB issue). Signature<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> John P Sheehy <JPS@no.komm> ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< > > I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new > > 30D when it becomes available in the US. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I still haven't seen a good reason to upgrade from my 10D. For me it would be camera start up time, which was greatly improved from the 10D to even the 20D and then the FPS. So from a 20D to a 30D, eh... But 10D to 30D... A lot of things would make me consider the upgrade but the above 2 would be the main reason. However, if you're not pressed I might wait a bit and see if the 30D has any problems that pop up. Given that I just passed more than 14,000 shots on my 20D and have never had an error, lockup, or any other issue (knock on wood! ;-) I'm glad I got mine later and wasn't one of the first that supposedly had issues. > > I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new > > 30D when it becomes available in the US. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I still haven't seen a good reason to upgrade from my 10D. I did ;-) > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Other than the larger screen size do you really think it will be worth > upgrading to the 30D for the price or would you just keep your 20D ? I probably would - new features are "nice" and the difference I'll have to shell out is at least partially compensated by the fact that I'm well into the life of the existing shutter. It's probably one of those "if you can spare the $$$ do it, if you can't then don't" kinds of things. >>> Hi All, >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> It's probably one of those "if you can spare the $$$ do it, if you >> can't then don't" kinds of things. Yes, the 60,000 clicks of shutter is one thing but when you discover the mirror movement is also limited and the recommendation is to replace the whole assembly, the cost of early camera replacement is hardly a blimp on the radar. Signaturewww.photosbydouglas.com www.weprint2canvas.com If you really must write,use my name at an above domain. >Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Other than the larger screen size do you really think it will be worth >upgrading to the 30D for the price or would you just keep your 20D ? Take a look at Rob Galbraith's excellent analysis of how the 30D differs from the 20D, then decide. Personally, I cannot see any one feature that would tempt me to upgrade from the 20D to the 30D, but your mileage may vary. http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-7891-8214 In my opinion, your money would be far better spent on a new lens or flash gun rather than upgrading from one 8 MP Canon body to another. But that's just my opinion, and if there is at least one "must have" feature on the 30D that your 20D doesn't have, then you have a decision to make. >I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new >30D when it becomes available in the US. Optimistically: the 30D might be a little less buggy than the 20D. > >I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new > >30D when it becomes available in the US. > > Optimistically: the 30D might be a little less buggy than the 20D. I've got no complaints about the 20D. >> >I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new >> >30D when it becomes available in the US. >> >> Optimistically: the 30D might be a little less buggy than the 20D. > >I've got no complaints about the 20D. I won't upgrade my 20D for a 30D. As the previous poster said..money better spent on better glass. rgds Ken > >> >I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new > >> >30D when it becomes available in the US. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I won't upgrade my 20D for a 30D. As the previous poster said..money > better spent on better glass. I'm going to - I'm hoping that i'll be able to do it for around $500 kiwi dollars (around $300 USD) - I'd like more glass too, but unfortunately $500 kiwi doesn't even come close to anything with "L" on it (got two already anyway!) :) >> >> >I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the >new [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >kiwi doesn't even come close to anything with "L" on it (got two already >anyway!) :) The 50mm 1.4 will get ya near L mate. It's hot and tight enough to really push your F settings ...just get good shoes. About $300 US. Outstanding lens. rgds Ken > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Other than the larger screen size do you really think it will be worth > upgrading to the 30D for the price or would you just keep your 20D ? I am keeping my 20D which is a very good camera ... the 30D seems only a bit better. >> I'm thinking as many others here about upgrading from the 20D to the new >> 30D when it becomes available in the US. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I am keeping my 20D which is a very good camera ... the 30D seems only a bit >better. After using one briefly, I too have decided to hold off. I was thinking it might be the upgrade from my XT/350D, but it just doesn't offer enough to justify the cost. I'm not a sports fanatic, and even though I would like a spot meter, partial does the job. For me, I'm more concerned with high quality glass. That's why I use Canon L lenses on my XT - it gives me the performance I need at a reasonable price. I'm now wondering if Canon is thinking of combining the 5D and 30D into some sort of a new prosumer body in the consumer price range for summer or next spring. > I'm now wondering if Canon is thinking of combining the 5D and 30D into > some sort of a new prosumer body in the consumer price range for summer > or next spring. Somehow I can't see it. Personally, I think the 1DS Mk2 will be next in line for an upgrade. 1DS MK2N? 22MP? >> I'm now wondering if Canon is thinking of combining the 5D and 30D into >> some sort of a new prosumer body in the consumer price range for summer [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > line > for an upgrade. 1DS MK2N? 22MP? I'm pretty sure you're right. The 5D is too close to the 1Ds mkII in resolution, of not sturdiness, and less than 1/2 the price. SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >>> I'm now wondering if Canon is thinking of combining the 5D and 30D into >>> some sort of a new prosumer body in the consumer price range for summer [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I'm pretty sure you're right. The 5D is too close to the 1Ds mkII in >resolution, of not sturdiness, and less than 1/2 the price. Well if that's true, no upgrade for me. :-/ |
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