I think most people prefer the new 24-105/4 IS. And many sites agree
it's a sharper lens too. I sold the 50/1.4. After thoroughly thinking
over my style of photos, I like to take pictures of my dogs in action,
indoor or outdoor; inside church; indoor/outdoor portraits etc. I don't
need long reach for these, so would 24-70/2.8 be a better choice for me?
And why do you choose 24-105, besides lighter weight and size? [My
camera is 20d]
ian lincoln - 21 Mar 2006 15:17 GMT
>I think most people prefer the new 24-105/4 IS. And many sites agree it's a
>sharper lens too. I sold the 50/1.4. After thoroughly thinking over my
>style of photos, I like to take pictures of my dogs in action, indoor or
>outdoor; inside church; indoor/outdoor portraits etc. I don't need long
>reach for these, so would 24-70/2.8 be a better choice for me? And why do
>you choose 24-105, besides lighter weight and size? [My camera is 20d]
as you have a 20D you have to multiply by 1.6 so its 38.4-168. versus
38.4-112. You are quite correct that 112 is more than adequate for most if
not all portrait situtations. At this point i would also consider the
17-85IS and the new 17-55.
With an effective wideangle starting from 27.2 Your just inside landscape
territory or great family group shots without actual distortion.
As for a 2.8 zoom the 20D autofocus does benefit from a zoom this wide in
very low light. On the other hand i think the 24-105 is IS so you can do
more handheld without resorting to tripod. Weight and size are factors as
well as overall price. If you are really intent on portrait work then super
sharp lenses aren't necessary. Slightly soft focus is preferrable. As is
shallow depth of field. Here the 2.8 lens will come into its own. I take
it the 2.8 is the more costly?
jean - 21 Mar 2006 20:31 GMT
> >I think most people prefer the new 24-105/4 IS. And many sites agree it's a
> >sharper lens too. I sold the 50/1.4. After thoroughly thinking over my
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> shallow depth of field. Here the 2.8 lens will come into its own. I take
> it the 2.8 is the more costly?
Think about the weight too, I have a 24-70 f2,8 and also a 17-40 f4, the
17-40 is on more often than the 24-70 just because it is a LOT lighter. "L"
lenses are worth the asking price if you ask me.
Jean
l e o - 21 Mar 2006 20:45 GMT
>>> I think most people prefer the new 24-105/4 IS. And many sites agree it's
> a
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>
> Jean
I agree, the 17-40 is on my camera most of the time right now!
I think my semi-finial decision will be:
10-22, 24-105IS and 300IS. I can add a 85/1.8 later.
Tony Polson - 21 Mar 2006 23:11 GMT
>>>> I think most people prefer the new 24-105/4 IS. And many sites agree it's
>> a
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>I think my semi-finial decision will be:
>10-22, 24-105IS and 300IS. I can add a 85/1.8 later.
As you are using a 20D body, why not consider an EF 50mm f/1.8 which
makes a good equivalent 80mm portrait lens? The 85mm f/1.8 becomes an
equivalent 135mm telephoto, a little too long for most portraiture.
I suggested the 50mm because it is available used at low prices. The
discontinued Mk1 version was better built than the current Mk2.
l e o - 22 Mar 2006 00:01 GMT
>>>>> I think most people prefer the new 24-105/4 IS. And many sites agree it's
>>> a
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> I suggested the 50mm because it is available used at low prices. The
> discontinued Mk1 version was better built than the current Mk2.
I sold 50/1.4. It's too long to use indoor and too short for concert at
church. In fact, I think 24-105/4 with IS will do very well for me and
may not even need a f1.8 lens.
Tony Polson - 22 Mar 2006 02:08 GMT
>> As you are using a 20D body, why not consider an EF 50mm f/1.8 which
>> makes a good equivalent 80mm portrait lens? The 85mm f/1.8 becomes an
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>church. In fact, I think 24-105/4 with IS will do very well for me and
>may not even need a f1.8 lens.
OK, it was just a suggestion.
AaronW - 23 Mar 2006 01:43 GMT
> >>>>> I think most people prefer the new 24-105/4 IS. And many sites agree it's
> >>> a
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> church. In fact, I think 24-105/4 with IS will do very well for me and
> may not even need a f1.8 lens.
You can put tele or wide converter on the filter thread in front of the
lens, 62mm Olympus 1.45x and 0.8x with 50/1.4, 55mm Olympus 1.7x and
0.7x with 50/1.8.
You will miss f/1.4 or f/1.8 for indoor low light shots.
50mm is often used for portrait on 1.6x digital.
http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes - 21 Mar 2006 23:13 GMT
>> "ian lincoln" <dragonslayer@whocares.com> a écrit dans le message de
>> Think about the weight too, I have a 24-70 f2,8 and also a 17-40 f4, the
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> I think my semi-finial decision will be:
> 10-22, 24-105IS and 300IS. I can add a 85/1.8 later.
Or what about:
* 10-22 EF-S
* 17-40 EF L 4.0
* 28-70 EF L 2.8
* 70-200 EF L 2.0 IS
* 300 EF L 4.0 IS
* 500 EF L 4.0 IS
* 100 EF macro
* 135 EF soft-focus
* 24 EF L tilt-shift
... hmmm... still hasn't got the last one... :-)

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This old Bob - 23 Mar 2006 06:44 GMT
>>> "ian lincoln" <dragonslayer@whocares.com> a écrit dans le message de
>>> Think about the weight too, I have a 24-70 f2,8 and also a 17-40 f4, the
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> * 28-70 EF L 2.8
> * 70-200 EF L 2.0 IS
Now that is fast!
> * 300 EF L 4.0 IS
The 300 2.8 should be here
> * 500 EF L 4.0 IS
> * 100 EF macro
> * 135 EF soft-focus
> * 24 EF L tilt-shift
>
> ... hmmm... still hasn't got the last one... :-)
Me neither!
w.beckley@gmail.com - 23 Mar 2006 09:50 GMT
I don't think I'd say that most people prefer one or the other... users
pretty universally seem to love both, and any preference seems to be
just that - personal preference - and not a reflection of one's
superiority.
Shooting inside a church, I'd say grab the 24-70, because the 2.8 will
help (and IS might or might not help... remember, it might grab you
extra stops of shutter, but if you slow that shutter down, you need
nonmoving subjects). But I also have a preference for fast lenses and I
don't personally use IS as much as some. I've extensively used and
loved that lens. So like I say, a matter of personal preference.
Think about which is more important to you: a faster lens also capable
of shallower depth of field, or a slower lens with more range and IS.
Both options have merit. Both lenses are top-quality glass with scores
of supporters. Which is right for you?