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Peter - 13 Mar 2006 14:05 GMT
Is this flare?

http://peter.greatnowhere.com/g2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036&g2_navId=xd4c2221e

I think it is. Canon 28-135 IS USM lens, 20D body. Does this lens have a
known flare problem, or  I have a dud?

Any suggestions on how to clean up the flare thingy in Shop?

TIA,
Peter
Ray Fischer - 13 Mar 2006 17:57 GMT
>Is this flare?
>
>http://peter.greatnowhere.com/g2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036&g2_navId=xd4c2221e

Looks like it.

>I think it is. Canon 28-135 IS USM lens, 20D body. Does this lens have a
>known flare problem, or  I have a dud?

You're pointing the camera at the sun.  Pretty much every lens has
problems in that situation.

However, I notice that the flare is the same color of the sun.  To me
that indicates that it comes from uncoated optics.  And THAT indicates
that you're getting a reflection from the uncoated UV reflector you
have on the lens.

Light can travel through the lens, be reflected from the sensor in the
camera, travel back through the lens, get reflected off of the filter,
and then trvel back into the lens and appear as a ghost image.

>Any suggestions on how to clean up the flare thingy in Shop?

Since there isn't a lot of meaningful detail in the flare you could
just clone generic tree branch silhouettes.

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Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) - 14 Mar 2006 03:41 GMT
>>Is this flare?
>>
>>http://peter.greatnowhere.com/g2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036&g2_navId=xd4c2221e
>
> Looks like it.

If you mean the secondary image of the sun, no that is not
flare.  It is a reflection.

>>I think it is. Canon 28-135 IS USM lens, 20D body. Does this lens have a
>>known flare problem, or  I have a dud?
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> camera, travel back through the lens, get reflected off of the filter,
> and then trvel back into the lens and appear as a ghost image.

I think that is Pretty unlikely, especially in the corner because
the reflection off the sensor would be reflected out of the field of view.

The most probable cause is a reflection between the UV filter and the
front element of the lens.  Many modern lenses have a pretty flat
front element.  A poorly coated filter gets a reflection off
the front element and reflects the image back to the lens.  You can
demonstrate the filter is the problem by removing the filter
and seeing the problem go away.

Use only multicoated UV filters, like Hoya supercoated filters.

Roger
Peter - 14 Mar 2006 08:55 GMT
> The most probable cause is a reflection between the UV filter and the
> front element of the lens.  Many modern lenses have a pretty flat
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Use only multicoated UV filters, like Hoya supercoated filters.

Thanks for all the help, guys! Will take note! ;)

Peter
Jeremy Nixon - 13 Mar 2006 21:39 GMT
> Is this flare?

Yes, there is some flare.

> I think it is. Canon 28-135 IS USM lens, 20D body. Does this lens have a
> known flare problem, or  I have a dud?

It looks like you may have a UV filter on the lens that is causing the
flare.  When you're shooting in a situation where flare is likely -- like,
for example, into the sun -- you should remove the filter.

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D-Mac - 14 Mar 2006 09:00 GMT
>> Is this flare?
>>
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>> TIA,
>> Peter

I think you might find that particular lens was withdrawn from sale shortly
after it hit the market due to a flare issue. They are made in China and the
elements or how the glass was made had something to do with it. Depends on
the serial number if yours was affected. Call Canon and check with them.

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Ian Riches - 14 Mar 2006 12:42 GMT
> >> Is this flare?
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> elements or how the glass was made had something to do with it. Depends on
> the serial number if yours was affected. Call Canon and check with them.

No...you are thinking of the 24-105mm L f/4 IS lens.  The OP has the 28-
135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens.  

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