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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / March 2006Nikon D70s Kit lens or Sigma 18-105 lens?
Hi, i am planning to buy the Nikon D70s. Should i opt for the kit lens (Nikon 18-70) or should i go in for the Sigma 18-105. The Sigma is cheaper, but does it compare to the kit lens? Also, are there any other lenses that i can consider. Thanks in advance, Anirudh > i am planning to buy the Nikon D70s. Should i opt for the kit lens > (Nikon 18-70) or should i go in for the Sigma 18-105. The Sigma is get Nikkor 18-70; it's best kit lens ever and beats Sigma hands down B. Thanks so much :) Thanks so much :) Thanks so much :) >> i am planning to buy the Nikon D70s. Should i opt for the kit lens >> (Nikon 18-70) or should i go in for the Sigma 18-105. The Sigma is > > get Nikkor 18-70; it's best kit lens ever and beats Sigma hands down Fully agree - the 18-70 kit lens is an exceptional lens...... I use it on both my D70s and D200...... PC > get Nikkor 18-70; it's best kit lens ever and beats Sigma hands down It's an excellent lens for an everyday carry-around; the only drawback I've found with it is being a bit too slow when shooting fast-moving subjects outdoors in the evening or on cloudy days. sounds like your familiar with nikon's. i'm planning on getting my first digital camera and am looking at the D50 and the D70. What's the main difference? Thanks > sounds like your familiar with nikon's. i'm planning on getting my > first digital camera and am looking at the D50 and the D70. What's the > main difference? Thanks Here is an excellent side by side comparison of the features. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond50/ I just bought a D50 and my friend has a one year old D70. There is very little difference between the two as far as most functions go. The D70 has a few more features and they may or may not be important to you. In some areas the D50 has improvements. As a serious amateur I like my much more affordable D50.  SignatureSeinfeld Lists - NEW URL http://seinfeld.freehostpro.com/index.html California Photos http://tinyurl.com/ann2l LOST - Sawyer's Nicknames http://tinyurl.com/dp8nb Thanks Mike. Great article comparing the two. Much appreciated. > Thanks Mike. Great article comparing the two. Much appreciated. As a D70 user, I'd say that the D70 features I'd miss most if I traded for a D50 are the ability to use its flash to wirelessly control remote SB600s or SB800s in TTL mode, its viewfinder grid (many of my pre-grid photos featured horizons sloping gently to the right), and its 2 control wheels (eg, one for aperture, one for shutter speed). The thing about the D50 I'd most like to have (apart from the apparently improved sensor and autofocus) is the USB 2.0 connection. The difference between CF and SD cards can be taken either way. The D70's CF cards make it easier to share cards with a more advanced DSLR if you have one (or at least to continue using the cards if you trade up) but the D50's SD cards make it a better bet for sharing cards with a compact as a second camera - these days compact cameras seldom use CF cards. SignatureApteryx Thanks for the input. Leaning toward the D50 over the D70, but want to handle them both first. Also think I'll be using the manual mode mostly. Coming off my old Canon F-1, won't be used to all the automatic stuff. Then again always time to learn something new with all the new features etc. Thanks again. > Thanks for the input. Leaning toward the D50 over the D70, but want to > handle them both first. Also think I'll be using the manual mode > mostly. Coming off my old Canon F-1, won't be used to all the > automatic stuff. Then again always time to learn something new with > all the new features etc. Thanks again. If you are inclined to old school style manual focus, you might consider the brighter viewfinder in a D200 and compatibility with old unchipped lenses... at least consider that upgrade path. That'll be the first thing you notice is they all have small dim viewfinders compared to film or full frame. Thanks. What do you use? > Thanks. What do you use? I have a D70 & looking at a D200. Looking for a 35mm f/1.4 as a fast normal prime for crop frame but I suppose for the money it'd be cheaper to buy a new one that meters. > I have a D70 & looking at a D200. Looking for a 35mm f/1.4 as a fast > normal prime for crop frame but I suppose for the money it'd be cheaper > to buy a new one that meters. On a D200 a used 35/1.4 that's AI or AI-S will work just like a new one; they'll meter. On a D70 you won't get metering with a 35/1.4 no matter what, since there is no version of that lens with a CPU. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com > That'll be the first > thing you notice is they all have small dim viewfinders compared to film > or full frame. That is my biggest gripe with APS-C sensor size digital cameras ... the viewfinder is too small and dim. It is much tougher to focus sharply and to distinguish detail. SignatureThomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 -- I'd like to see the government get out of war altogether and leave the whole field to private industry. -- Joseph Heller > > That'll be the first > > thing you notice is they all have small dim viewfinders compared to film [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > viewfinder is too small and dim. It is much tougher to focus sharply > and to distinguish detail. Actually, it is not that the viewfinder is small and dim. It really is no worse than my old Olympus OM-2. It is the inadequate focusing screen. There are third party manufacturers of better focusing screens: http://tinyurl.com/qtrwm > Thanks for the input. Leaning toward the D50 over the D70, but want to > handle them both first. Also think I'll be using the manual mode > mostly. Coming off my old Canon F-1, won't be used to all the > automatic stuff. Then again always time to learn something new with > all the new features etc. Thanks again. Keep in mind that two wheels rather than one wheel is a major selling point. It is nice to be able to adjust apeture and shutter speed independantly and simultaneously (manual mode) without switching modes. Most other Nikon cameras, from at least the N80 on up on the film side and all digital products (to my knowledge) except the D50 use the same same wheel configuration for these adjustments. BTW ... look at the D70s rather than the D70. I have the D70 and love it, but the D70s has the 2.5" LCD screen, which is bigger than that on the D70. I believe the D70s has a larger viewfinder as well. Also note that the D70s body is only about $100 or so more than the D50, so it is money well spent. SignatureThomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 -- I'd like to see the government get out of war altogether and leave the whole field to private industry. -- Joseph Heller > its viewfinder grid (many of my pre-grid photos featured horizons sloping > gently to the right), When I had the D70 I noticed that the top and bottom edges of the viewfinder were neither horizontal nor parallel. The viewfinder grid was an absolute necessity, as a result. > and its 2 control wheels (eg, one for aperture, one for shutter speed). That's very important, too. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com > sounds like your familiar with nikon's. i'm planning on getting my > first digital camera and am looking at the D50 and the D70. What's the > main difference? Thanks Thom Hogan writes very good instruction guides for Nikon cameras. He knows them inside and out. For his take on the differences between the two cameras, see here: http://www.bythom.com/D50REVIEW.htm On the whole, he seems to think that the D50 is a better camera than the D70 or D70s with lower noise and better image quality. It lacks some features, but it takes better pictures. Just because both cameras have 6.1 megapixel sensors does not mean that they use the same sensor. Nikon has definitely made some improvements since the D70. The biggest difference, as far as I can see, is that the D50 does not use CF memory cards. It is the only Nikon DSLR that does not use them. It takes only SD cards, so if you ever move up to a more expensive Nikon then you have to buy all new memory cards. Thom Hogan says that this limits the D50 as a backup camera to a certain extent, but I don't see that it makes all that much difference. I have a D70 and will probably use it until I return to the USA in November. Then I get myself the D200 for Christmas. :-) Thanks Christopher. A lot of information. Leaning toward the 50, but want to handle them both. First venture into digital and Nikon's. Always shot Canon f-1's. Thanks again. The main advantage of the Nikon 18-70 is low distortion, both linear and chromatic, at the wide end of the scale. It is truly remarkable for a lens of this price. The comparable Canon lenses just don't compare: they are the poster children for distortion. The Sigma is a better lens than many would think, probably better than the Canon kit lenses, however, and what matters is how you will use it and what your expectations are. That being said, I would get the Nikon 18-70 without a doubt. Just stay as far away as you can from the Nikon 55-200, the ultimate dog of a lens and probably the worst ever issued under the Nikon badge. > That being said, I > would get the Nikon 18-70 without a doubt. Just stay as far away as you > can from the Nikon 55-200, the ultimate dog of a lens and probably the > worst ever issued under the Nikon badge. Are you sure you're not speaking of my Nikkor 70-300mm 1:4.5-5.6 G? Ilaab > Just stay as far away as you can from the Nikon 55-200, the ultimate > dog of a lens and probably the worst ever issued under > the Nikon badge. I don't know about that. It would have to go a long way to beat the original 43-86mm f/3.5. SignatureMichael Benveniste -- mhb-offer@clearether.com Spam and UCE professionally evaluated for $250. Use this email address only to submit mail for evaluation. > Hi, > i am planning to buy the Nikon D70s. Should i opt for the kit lens > (Nikon 18-70) or should i go in for the Sigma 18-105. The Sigma is > cheaper, but does it compare to the kit lens? Also, are there any other > > lenses that i can consider. Very few lenses can compare in quality to the 18-70. Nikon hit a home run with that one. Surprisingly, the newer 18-200 AF-S VR comes awfully close, but it costs more than twice as much. Still, a fantastic lens once you learn to handle it properly and if you can get past a little stickiness in the zoom ring (and that goes away after awhile). > Hi, > i am planning to buy the Nikon D70s. Should i opt for the kit lens > (Nikon 18-70) or should i go in for the Sigma 18-105. The Sigma is > cheaper, but does it compare to the kit lens? Also, are there any other Kit lens. Far better. It is not even debatable. SignatureThomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 -- IN MY OPINION anyone interested in improving himself should not rule out becoming pure energy. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. |
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