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20D forced D100 to "evolve."

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Rich - 25 Feb 2006 19:33 GMT
Notice that the casing of the D200 is now magnesium instead of the
"high impact" plastic of the D100.  This no doubt cost Nikon
considerably more money, but from a marketing standpoint, it made good
sense.  Not all marketing orientation is purely to sell.  Some of it
takes into account perceptions that the photographer  may not have
until some time after they've purchased the product.  This creates
brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
term used for this level of camera) camera is far more desirable than
a plastic one and is more likely to keep owners from looking longingly
at the competition.  Canon now has only 1 plastic-bodied DSLR, the
Rebel XT.  It has five or six that are metal.  
The absolute truth is that Nikon could have produced the D200
with a plastic body but they chose not to, even though it could have
been brought in at a price point possibly even lower than the 20D.
Look for the D70 to go metal at some point in the future too unless
they drop its price point to lower than it now is.
-Rich
Randall Ainsworth - 25 Feb 2006 20:31 GMT
> Notice that the casing of the D200 is now magnesium instead of the
> "high impact" plastic of the D100.  This no doubt cost Nikon
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> Look for the D70 to go metal at some point in the future too unless
> they drop its price point to lower than it now is.

Do us all a favor and STFU.
Darrell Larose - 26 Feb 2006 03:21 GMT
The soon to be announced Canon 40D will be built out of Chobham armour for
the rigors of Rich's techniques.
Eric Gill - 27 Feb 2006 04:19 GMT
> The soon to be announced Canon 40D will be built out of Chobham armour
> for the rigors of Rich's techniques.

And no longer require lenses, as it will use an offshoot of ultra-high
resolution MRI.
Rich - 28 Feb 2006 04:46 GMT
>> Notice that the casing of the D200 is now magnesium instead of the
>> "high impact" plastic of the D100.  This no doubt cost Nikon
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>
>Do us all a favor and STFU.

Shouldn't dictate to people, leftist.
Helen - 25 Feb 2006 21:10 GMT
> brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
> -Rich

Still confused between its and it's I see.
Or ... still confused. Period.  Go away.
Nigel Cummings - 26 Feb 2006 14:27 GMT
Who cares what the camera is made of, or made by. Get out and take some
pictures with the darn thing!

>> brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
>> -Rich
>
> Still confused between its and it's I see.
> Or ... still confused. Period.  Go away.
Helen - 26 Feb 2006 15:38 GMT
> Who cares what the camera is made of, or made by. Get out and take some
> pictures with the darn thing!

Learn:
a) Not to top post
b) To reply who you mean to reply to
Rich - 28 Feb 2006 04:47 GMT
>> brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
>> -Rich
>
>Still confused between its and it's I see.
>Or ... still confused. Period.  Go away.

Another leftist dictator.  I'll take your advice "under advisement."
G.T. - 28 Feb 2006 07:30 GMT
>>>brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
>>>-Rich
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>
> Another leftist dictator.  

Hypocrite.

Greg

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Rich - 01 Mar 2006 22:27 GMT
>>>>brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
>>>>-Rich
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>
>Greg

Oh?  Show me where I've ever told anyone get lost or shut up, ever.
-Rich
G.T. - 01 Mar 2006 23:58 GMT
> >>>>brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
> >>>>-Rich
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>
> Oh?  Show me where I've ever told anyone get lost or shut up, ever.

You told me I couldn't run my friend's WWII-era searchlight in my backyard.

Greg
Rich - 02 Mar 2006 21:22 GMT
>> >>>>brand loyalty and its obvious that a metal bodied "enthusiast" (the
>> >>>>-Rich
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>
>Greg

Darn that light pollution.
-Rich
Charles Schuler - 25 Feb 2006 22:28 GMT
Mike Rooney - 27 Feb 2006 17:40 GMT
> Notice that the casing of the D200 is now magnesium instead of the
> "high impact" plastic of the D100.  This no doubt cost Nikon
> considerably more money, but from a marketing standpoint, it made good
> sense.  Not all marketing orientation is purely to sell.  Some of it
> takes into account perceptions that the photographer  may not have
> until some time after they've purchased the product. ........

To take this thread to a different path with a question:  Does it matter if
the body on a dSLR is high impact plastic as long as the lens mount is
metal???

(Please note the intentional non-use of the word "its"....:)

Mike
Rich - 28 Feb 2006 04:49 GMT
>> Notice that the casing of the D200 is now magnesium instead of the
>> "high impact" plastic of the D100.  This no doubt cost Nikon
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>
>Mike

Apparently, to Canon buyers and Nikon buyers the answer is a BIG yes.
Otherwise they would not likely incur the cost.
-Rich
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 28 Feb 2006 13:33 GMT
> Apparently, to Canon buyers and Nikon buyers the answer is a BIG yes.
> Otherwise they would not likely incur the cost.

The D100 was supposed to be a semipro, or enthusiast camera.  I suspect
the reason it wasn't magnesium allow in the first place is that they
were still evolving their product and want to keep the price point low.
Now that the D70 really holds that position, the D200 was released as
the successor to the D100, and it better fits its niche, so it made
sense to make it magnesium alloy.  The price point is not as bit of an
issue thanks to the existance of the D70s.  Thus, the evolution was
natural, and not likely market induced.  The 20D was released directly
into this niche, at a time when the 300D already held a similar position
as the D70 (which did not exist when the D100 was released).

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