 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
| PhotoKB HomeDiscussion Groups Digital Photography Digital PhotoDSLR CamerasZLR CamerasPoint & Shoot CamerasFilm Photography 35 mmLarge FormatMedium formatDarkroomFilm and LabsOther EquipmentPhoto Technique Nature PhotographyPeople PhotographyTechnique GeneralGeneral Photo Topics General TopicsAustralian PhotographyUK PhotographyDirectoryPhoto Clubs |
Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / February 2006Canon Screws it's FF and Ultra Wide Lens Users at PMA.
Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and an a mechanical improvement to the 85L. But nothing to improve their pitiful Ultra Wide offering. When is Canon going to realize that the only option their FF users have are Zeiss and Leica lenses and are willing to pay of them. When will Canon give us a wide with the quality of the 21mm Zeiss and Leica lenses in the EF line? ********************************************************** "A combat photographer should be able to make you see the color of blood in black and white" David Douglas Duncan Speaking on why in Vietnam he worked only in black and white http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/ Maybe they can't? I'm sure they have very strict rules regarding price categories that lenses can fall into. What if Canon found that a 21mm that wouldn't vignette or suffer from astigmatism and coma would cost $3000 at retail? They probably just rationalize the things won't sell. Canon aims it's efforts at telephotos, which do cost thousands of dollars but sell in large numbers to professionals who use them for wildlife photography and especially sports events. When you see that phalanx of white telephotos at a football game, you realize where Canon's efforts lie. > Maybe they can't? I'm sure they have very strict rules regarding price > categories [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > telephotos at a football > game, you realize where Canon's efforts lie. Which is funny. FF sensors and telephotos. I think somebody at Canon is missing the point.  SignatureDavid Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/> RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/> Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/> Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/> > Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens > department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and > an a mechanical improvement to the 85L. Well, to be fair, we also got a significant price increase in the 85 f/1.2. I'm sure Canon thinks it's a *great* deal. > Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens > department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > When will Canon give us a wide with the quality of the 21mm Zeiss and > Leica lenses in the EF line? Canon never has before, why would they start now? Nikon Pentax and Olympus don't offer such quality in their glass, and those are Canon's competitors, not the moribund Contax and the nearly-on-life-support Leica. You can sit at home and pixel peep, or you can go out and use those "pitiful Ultra Wide" lenses. If you do the latter, you'll find, in the real world, that the vignetting isn't all that critical. SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >> Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens >> department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Ultra Wide" lenses. If you do the latter, you'll find, in the real world, >that the vignetting isn't all that critical. I said nothing about vignetting. I just want good corner sharpness and something a quality prime wider than 25mm and less than the 14mm. Which Canon Wides are you using? ********************************************************** "A combat photographer should be able to make you see the color of blood in black and white" David Douglas Duncan Speaking on why in Vietnam he worked only in black and white http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/ >>> Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens >>> department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Which Canon Wides are you using? The statement still stands. Right now, I'm using the 16-35 f2.8L and the 20-35 f2.8L. About to pull the trigger on something fixed focal length and faster, but I'm not sure which one, if I can swing the price, the 24mm f1.4L, the 20mm f2.8 doesn't present much of an advantage over my 20-35 f2.8L in quality, speed and width. The 15mm fisheye is a definite, I need to replace the Sigma version we're currently using. SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >>>> Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens >>>> department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >f2.8L in quality, speed and width. The 15mm fisheye is a definite, I need >to replace the Sigma version we're currently using. Skip, if I didn't know you did mostly wedding photography I would suggest the TS-E 24 f/3.5L. Having a larger-than-normal image circle gives good corner sharpness, and the T/S facility is an outstanding benefit for a much wider range of pictures than you might think. It is, to me, in itself a sufficient reason to buy a 5D, as the angle of view is a little inadequate on my 10D - I'm getting a bit fed up with carrying an EOS 1n and film everywhere just for this.... I had the chance to buy a 24/1.4L and 35/1.4L (brand new) at very advantageous prices a few years ago. As I had the TS-E 24 I thought it would be more useful to have the 35 model. It is outstanding for hand-held interior work. I think the 24 would also be very good, though the published MTF curves suggest a rather greater edge fall-off than with the 35. I may still get one later if extreme wealth should ever come my way. Must think about the 15mm fisheye though. Regards, David SignatureDavid Littlewood > Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens > department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and > an a mechanical improvement to the 85L. Please forgive me for being a little picky here, but I was not aware that PMA had started yet. I don't think we should assume that these latest announcements will be the only ones they make - surely they have the right to keep something under their hats until the event actually begins! Helen >> Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens >> department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >to keep something under their hats until the event actually begins! >Helen No, Helen, they don't have anything under wraps. They have opened the kimono and there was nothing there. ********************************************************** "A combat photographer should be able to make you see the color of blood in black and white" David Douglas Duncan Speaking on why in Vietnam he worked only in black and white http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/ >>>Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens >>>department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > No, Helen, they don't have anything under wraps. They have opened the > kimono and there was nothing there. Perhaps this "moment" underscores the fact that gear, be it lenses or bodies, doesn't have infinite room for improvement. John- Could you kindly put a sig. delimiter in, just above your series of asterisks? SignatureJohn McWilliams > John- Could you kindly put a sig. delimiter in, > just above your series of asterisks? The delimiter is, starting at the beginning of the line (column 1), two hypens and a space. SignatureYou'll notice that, when you reply to this message, *IF* your newsreader conforms to this particularly rule, the words that follow the delimiter are NOT quoted. :) JR >>Please forgive me for being a little picky here, but I was not aware that >>PMA had started yet. I don't think we should assume that these latest [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > No, Helen, they don't have anything under wraps. They have opened the > kimono and there was nothing there. Well if that's the case - what a bloody disappointing lineup. Couple of lenses and a 20D wearing a 5D's clothes. Hmmm. >>>Please forgive me for being a little picky here, but I was not aware that >>>PMA had started yet. I don't think we should assume that these latest [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Well if that's the case - what a bloody disappointing lineup. Couple of > lenses and a 20D wearing a 5D's clothes. Hmmm. If the camera were wearing 5D clothes, it might be less disappointing, but not much. I know the press release said it adapted many of the features of the 5D's body, but I'm hard pressed to pick one out, unless it's the chrome ring around the command dial... One thing to remember, Europe is Canon's main market, these days, and Photokina may be judged to be a better time and place to make a big splash than PMA. I have a feeling that the 35D, 3D and 50mm f1.2L or something like them, may raise their pretty little heads then and there. Actually, I do agree with one aspect of John's comment. The range of fast, wide glass is rather lacking. I've been looking to get one or two fast, wide fixed focal length lenses, but the only one that presents a real advantage over the zooms I already have is the 24mm f1.4L. Price aside, that's a pretty small offering. The 14mm f2.8 doesn't have that great of a reputation, the 20mm f2.8 isn't any wider or faster than my 20-35 f2.8L, which has great optical quality. SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >> Well, Canon fails to deliver anything at the PMA in the lens >> department. We get another pointless EF-S for the 1.6 crop crowd and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to keep something under their hats until the event actually begins! > Helen For the past few years no announcements are made at PMA or PhotoKina, they are anounced (or leakvertised) in the week before the show.. |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2009 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.