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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / February 2006

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Seeking tips on silhouettes

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ronviers@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 19:01 GMT
Hi, I have placed a picture here:

http://photoviki.com/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=10196&pos=1

or if that doesn't work, here:

http://photoviki.com/displayimage.php?pid=17263&fullsize=1

Notice how the lines of the shadows are not crisp and the dark is not
smooth.  Are there rules of thumb or other techniques for taking nice
silhouettes.  I have tried everything from nearby candles to distant
light source squeezed through a hole.  One trick seems to be, the more
parallel the rays the better.  But that is not enough.

Thanks,
Ron

Btw, if this looks odd it is because the camera is taking a picture of
its own silhouette.
eawckyegcy@yahoo.com - 21 Feb 2006 19:15 GMT
> Notice how the lines of the shadows are not crisp and the dark is not
> smooth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penumbra

> Btw, if this looks odd it is because the camera is taking a picture of
> its own silhouette.

You mean "shadow".  A "silhouette" is the object itself against a very
bright background.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silhouette
ronviers@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 19:31 GMT
My promiscuity surfaces yet again.  I will try to be more careful.
Notice the picture of the microscope next to the camera.  It is an
actual silhouette.  The request for tips still stands though.  Thanks
for the claification.
test - 21 Feb 2006 23:09 GMT
> My promiscuity surfaces yet again.  I will try to be more careful.
> Notice the picture of the microscope next to the camera.  It is an
> actual silhouette.  The request for tips still stands though.  Thanks
> for the claification.

Here's how to do a silhouette:
http://www.garryblack.com/ag02.htm

The key is to aim the light at the background (not the subject).  Also there
should be several stops less light falling on the subject than the
background. Use a hand held meter or a gray card for your measurements.
ronviers@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 19:31 GMT
My promiscuity surfaces yet again.  I will try to be more careful.
Notice the picture of the microscope next to the camera.  It is an
actual silhouette.  The request for tips still stands though.  Thanks
for the claification.
Paul Furman - 21 Feb 2006 20:16 GMT
For sharp shadows, I think you need a small light source, not a big wide
studio flash with reflectors.

>>Notice how the lines of the shadows are not crisp and the dark is not
>>smooth.
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>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silhouette
eawckyegcy@yahoo.com - 21 Feb 2006 22:06 GMT
Don't top-post.

> For sharp shadows, I think you need a small light source, not a big wide
> studio flash with reflectors.

This is indeed the message of:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penumbra

But the OP didn't understand or even read it.  "You can lead a horse to
water, but you can't make him drink..."
ronviers@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 23:27 GMT
What is top posting and why did you say I didn't read your links?

Thanks,
Ron
Paul Furman - 21 Feb 2006 23:33 GMT
top posting

> What is top posting and why did you say I didn't read your links?
Paul Furman - 21 Feb 2006 23:33 GMT
> What is top posting and why did you say I didn't read your links?

bottom posting
ronviers@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 23:46 GMT
Paul Furman - 21 Feb 2006 23:33 GMT
posting without reference
Paul Furman - 21 Feb 2006 23:32 GMT
>>For sharp shadows, I think you need a small light source, not a big wide
>>studio flash with reflectors.
>
> This is indeed the message of:
>
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penumbra

Ah, I didn't notice that either. Here's a better diagram:
<http://www.photonics.com/dictionary/lookup/XQ/ASP/url.lookup/entrynum.3823/lette
r.p/pu./QX/lookup.htm
>

Thinking more about the silhouettes... there is a difference between
backlit with a bright source hidden behind the object and an evenly
illuminated backdrop. The backlit situation gives more of a bright ring
at the edge like an over-sharpened image. Perhaps the shadow looks less
'real' lacking that. Interesting question.
 
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