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RAW - File Size Changes when Saved as .psd

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AlanW - 19 Feb 2006 21:49 GMT
My thanks to all who responded to my post regarding RAW + Jpeg. I
downloaded the extractor and I am very pleased with the ability to
make adjustments using the PSE3 Plug-in. I have the zeal of the
convert and will now shoot only RAW with my beloved D70s.

I notice that when I save the .nef file  in the .psd format, the size
triples (i.e., the original .nef = 5200kb; the .psd = 17,000 kb).

Is this normal and can anyone explain why this happens?

Thanks,
Alan
Jeremy Nixon - 19 Feb 2006 22:20 GMT
> I notice that when I save the .nef file  in the .psd format, the size
> triples (i.e., the original .nef = 5200kb; the .psd = 17,000 kb).
>
> Is this normal and can anyone explain why this happens?

After conversion, the file has three color channels instead of one.

The PSD will get even larger if you use layers, and then Photoshop may
even add a preview to the file, making it larger still.  It's all normal.

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Ed Ruf  (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) - 19 Feb 2006 22:27 GMT
>My thanks to all who responded to my post regarding RAW + Jpeg. I
>downloaded the extractor and I am very pleased with the ability to
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>
>Is this normal and can anyone explain why this happens?

Yes it's normal. In fact this tells me you have only 8-bit data, which you
really don't want to do at this stage. In the raw converter pane look at
the lower left hand corner and you'll see a pull down menu for bit depth.
You really want 16 bits at this point. When you save this you'll then see
this is approximately now twice as  large as before. Remember psd supports
much more things, especially layers.
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Matt Clara - 20 Feb 2006 14:27 GMT
>>My thanks to all who responded to my post regarding RAW + Jpeg. I
>>downloaded the extractor and I am very pleased with the ability to
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> this is approximately now twice as  large as before. Remember psd supports
> much more things, especially layers.

I used to think so, too, but with Phase One RAW converter, I rarely need to
make any further adjustments, so 8 bits is good to go.

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JPS@no.komm - 20 Feb 2006 16:44 GMT
>I used to think so, too, but with Phase One RAW converter, I rarely need to
>make any further adjustments, so 8 bits is good to go.

If you're outputting the final product, 8-bit can't really be bettered
in any practical way.
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John A. Stovall - 19 Feb 2006 22:52 GMT
>My thanks to all who responded to my post regarding RAW + Jpeg. I
>downloaded the extractor and I am very pleased with the ability to
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>
>Is this normal and can anyone explain why this happens?

If you are just starting to work with raw get this book.  It will get
you started off right.

Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2 (Paperback)
by Bruce Fraser

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321334094/103-7925841-5235052?v=glance&n=283155

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"A combat photographer should be able to make you see the
color of blood in black and white"

                    David Douglas Duncan
                Speaking on why in Vietnam
             he worked only in black and white
     http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/
AlanW - 20 Feb 2006 00:29 GMT
Thanks to all for your encouragement and suggestions. I will buy the
book.

Thanks,
Alan

>If you are just starting to work with raw get this book.  It will get
>you started off right.
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>              he worked only in black and white
>      http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/
C J Southern - 20 Feb 2006 03:42 GMT
> Thanks to all for your encouragement and suggestions. I will buy the
> book.

Try to get the special that includes a free box of Asprins!
John A. Stovall - 20 Feb 2006 14:59 GMT
>> Thanks to all for your encouragement and suggestions. I will buy the
>> book.
>
>Try to get the special that includes a free box of Asprins!

No, you want that for his book on color management.

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"A combat photographer should be able to make you see the
color of blood in black and white"

                    David Douglas Duncan
                Speaking on why in Vietnam
             he worked only in black and white
     http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/
C J Southern - 20 Feb 2006 21:47 GMT
> >> Thanks to all for your encouragement and suggestions. I will buy the
> >> book.
> >
> >Try to get the special that includes a free box of Asprins!
>
> No, you want that for his book on color management.

Been there - done that too. Bottle of scotch numbs the pain nicely - only
problem is I now have to read the book again!
 
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