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Jack - 13 Feb 2006 02:23 GMT
The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new Rebel
XT is driving me nuts.  Is there any way to shut it off?  There is nothing
in the manual.  My old Sony DSC828 also made this sound, but it could be
shut off.

Thanks, Jack
Scott W - 13 Feb 2006 03:12 GMT
> The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new Rebel
> XT is driving me nuts.  Is there any way to shut it off?  There is nothing
> in the manual.  My old Sony DSC828 also made this sound, but it could be
> shut off.
>
> Thanks, Jack
I would think you are hearing the shutter sound.  Try locking up the
mirror and take a shot and see if you still get the sound. That is if
the XT has a mirror lock up function, don't know if it does not not.

Scott
Jack - 13 Feb 2006 04:09 GMT
>> The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new
>> Rebel
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>
> Scott

Scott,  I tried it in the mirror lock up mode (it does have one), and I
think you are correct.  All I can say is that this thing has one
disappointingly loud mirror.

Thanks, JackM
Scott W - 13 Feb 2006 05:22 GMT
> >> The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new
> >> Rebel
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> think you are correct.  All I can say is that this thing has one
> disappointingly loud mirror.
I know my 20D is pretty loud as well, but then any SLR makes a fair bit
of noise.

Scott
Beach Bum - 13 Feb 2006 05:38 GMT
> Scott,  I tried it in the mirror lock up mode (it does have one), and I
> think you are correct.  All I can say is that this thing has one
> disappointingly loud mirror.

Compared to the 20D my girlfriend's Xt is virtually silent.

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Scott W - 13 Feb 2006 05:46 GMT
> > Scott,  I tried it in the mirror lock up mode (it does have one), and I
> > think you are correct.  All I can say is that this thing has one
> > disappointingly loud mirror.
>
> Compared to the 20D my girlfriend's Xt is virtually silent.

The 20D is pretty loud but I find I can sometimes use that to my
advantage. I find if I take half a dozen or so fast photos most people
will start to crack up, the smiles look much better then the forced
smiles that you often see in photos.

Scott
Beach Bum - 14 Feb 2006 04:56 GMT
> > > Scott,  I tried it in the mirror lock up mode (it does have one), and I
> > > think you are correct.  All I can say is that this thing has one
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> will start to crack up, the smiles look much better then the forced
> smiles that you often see in photos.

Ditto.  I have a couple nice laughter series.  I'm not sure why people have
this reaction, but it works. :)

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Randall Ainsworth - 13 Feb 2006 13:38 GMT
> Scott,  I tried it in the mirror lock up mode (it does have one), and I
> think you are correct.  All I can say is that this thing has one
> disappointingly loud mirror.

You newbies have no clue. Try using something like a Pentax 6x7 and
tell me how loud your digital is.
Scott W - 13 Feb 2006 19:41 GMT
> > Scott,  I tried it in the mirror lock up mode (it does have one), and I
> > think you are correct.  All I can say is that this thing has one
> > disappointingly loud mirror.
>
> You newbies have no clue. Try using something like a Pentax 6x7 and
> tell me how loud your digital is.
So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?

Scott
BJ in Texas - 13 Feb 2006 20:17 GMT
|| Randall Ainsworth wrote:
||| In article <bETHf.29842$Dh.27796@dukeread04>, Jack
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||
|| Scott

My camera is so loud that I am band from using it in avalanche
zones.  :-)

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Cynicor - 13 Feb 2006 23:28 GMT
> || Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> ||| In article <bETHf.29842$Dh.27796@dukeread04>, Jack
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> My camera is so loud that I am band from using it in avalanche
> zones.  :-)

I have a D70. Can anyone tell me how to change the default click into a
blood-curdling scream? I want subjects to change their expression so
that I can squeeze off a second, more "exciting" shot when doing
portrait work.
Scott W - 14 Feb 2006 00:43 GMT
> I have a D70. Can anyone tell me how to change the default click
into a
> blood-curdling scream? I want subjects to change their expression so
> that I can squeeze off a second, more "exciting" shot when doing
> portrait work.

Cool, I want that as well.

Scott
Måns Rullgård - 14 Feb 2006 01:06 GMT
>> I have a D70. Can anyone tell me how to change the default click
>> into a blood-curdling scream? I want subjects to change their
>> expression so that I can squeeze off a second, more "exciting" shot
>> when doing portrait work.
>
> Cool, I want that as well.

Maybe it's easier to add something that makes the sound of fluorite
being crushed.  That should make any photographer scream.

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Kyle Jones - 14 Feb 2006 04:51 GMT
>> || Randall Ainsworth wrote:
>> ||| In article <bETHf.29842$Dh.27796@dukeread04>, Jack
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> that I can squeeze off a second, more "exciting" shot when doing
> portrait work.

Not quite what you want, but it's in the same spirit. :-)

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PeterD - 13 Feb 2006 23:40 GMT
>||| You newbies have no clue. Try using something like a Pentax
>||| 6x7 and
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>My camera is so loud that I am band from using it in avalanche
>zones.  :-)

Mine is so loud that OSHA required that both I and the subject wear
ear protection.

Are we that sensitive to noise in the cameras? Regardless of anything
else, my DSLR is much quieter than my SLR ever was.
Randall Ainsworth - 14 Feb 2006 02:57 GMT
> So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?

No, but the guy is obviously a newbie...because digital cameras are
considerably quieter than even their 35mm forefathers.
Scott W - 14 Feb 2006 04:09 GMT
> > So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?
>
> No, but the guy is obviously a newbie...because digital cameras are
> considerably quieter than even their 35mm forefathers.

I would put my 20D at about the same noise as my Canon film SLR, close
enough not to matter.  This always seemed a bit odd since the mirror on
the 20D is smaller then on the film SLR.

Scott
Beach Bum - 14 Feb 2006 05:05 GMT
> > > So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?
> >
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> enough not to matter.  This always seemed a bit odd since the mirror on
> the 20D is smaller then on the film SLR.

Smaller, but maybe faster?  A fast mirror has more energy to release in
sound than a slow one.  At 5fps the 20D shutter is pretty fast as SLR's go.

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Skip M - 14 Feb 2006 06:00 GMT
>> > > So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?
>> >
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> sound than a slow one.  At 5fps the 20D shutter is pretty fast as SLR's
> go.

My Canon A2 was just as fast, 5fps, and much, much quieter.

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Skip M - 14 Feb 2006 05:59 GMT
>> > So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?
>>
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>
> Scott

I thought it very odd, because the 20D is a lot louder than my old A2 (EOS5,
to those outside the US) and nearly as loud as my 1n, which seemed loud
enough to wake the dead in an environment like a museum...

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Rich - 15 Feb 2006 04:27 GMT
>> > So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?
>>
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>
>Scott

Which makes it about 3x as loud as an old Olympus OM-1 film camera.
-Rich
Prometheus - 14 Feb 2006 23:24 GMT
>> So now we are getting into bragging about how loud our camera are?
>
>No, but the guy is obviously a newbie...because digital cameras are
>considerably quieter than even their 35mm forefathers.

My 350D is much quieter than my 30 year old Mamiya, I'd still like a
digital range finder with an interlens shutter to get the noise lower
for occasional use.
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Mike Coon - 13 Feb 2006 22:51 GMT
>> I would think you are hearing the shutter sound.  Try locking up the
>> mirror and take a shot and see if you still get the sound.

I'm still on the EOS300/"Rebel", not yet having gone digital. To make it
quieter (to get a chance of subsequent shots of wildlife) I sometimes set it
to take double exposures. This means it does not immediately wind on the
film and only makes the mirror/shutter clank. Then I can cancel the double
exposure steathily and muffle the wind-on sound, ready to take another
shot...

Mike.
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G.T. - 13 Feb 2006 04:05 GMT
> The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new Rebel
> XT is driving me nuts.  Is there any way to shut it off?  There is nothing
> in the manual.  My old Sony DSC828 also made this sound, but it could be
> shut off.

The only sound mine makes other than the mirror and shutter is focus
confirmation, and that can be turned off.

Greg
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Jack - 13 Feb 2006 04:13 GMT
>> The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new
>> Rebel XT is driving me nuts.  Is there any way to shut it off?  There is
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Greg

Greg,  It does appear to be the shutter and mirror.  Apparently my Sony 828
(non-SLR) spoiled me.  This XT is not going to be a good candid camera.

Thanks, JackM
Beach Bum - 13 Feb 2006 05:40 GMT
> Greg,  It does appear to be the shutter and mirror.  Apparently my Sony 828
> (non-SLR) spoiled me.  This XT is not going to be a good candid camera.

Actually, it should be a better candid camera considering you can actually
take a photo when you press the shutter release.  I had the F717 and waiting
the hour or so it took for the shutter to actually release after pressing
the button resulted in a lot of missed shots.

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Jack - 14 Feb 2006 00:54 GMT
>> Greg,  It does appear to be the shutter and mirror.  Apparently my Sony
> 828
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> the hour or so it took for the shutter to actually release after pressing
> the button resulted in a lot of missed shots.
Beach Bum - 14 Feb 2006 04:57 GMT
>Mark,  That's exactly why I got the SLR, missing too many grab shots.

If I had a dime for every missed shot with the 717 I'd be retired... well,
at least I'd have an extra 50 bucks in my pocket. :)

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G.T. - 13 Feb 2006 06:52 GMT
>>>The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new
>>>Rebel XT is driving me nuts.  Is there any way to shut it off?  There is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Greg,  It does appear to be the shutter and mirror.  Apparently my Sony 828
> (non-SLR) spoiled me.  This XT is not going to be a good candid camera.

Whatever.  Go back to a point and shoot.

Greg

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Jack - 14 Feb 2006 01:00 GMT
>>>>The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new
>>>>Rebel XT is driving me nuts.  Is there any way to shut it off?  There is
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Greg

Most of my photo experience has been with large format and Rollei twinlens
cameras, both very very quiet.  I have an old Pentax KX I used to use many
years ago, and one time scared off and entire flock of birds with the noise.
This gives me an excuse to dig out the old Rollei every once in awhile.
Thanks, JackM
Scott W - 13 Feb 2006 07:52 GMT
> Greg,  It does appear to be the shutter and mirror.  Apparently my Sony 828
> (non-SLR) spoiled me.  This XT is not going to be a good candid camera.
That seems a bit odd to me.  I have a F828 and a 20D and whereas the
F828 is a very good camera for what it is it can not compare to a DSLR,
either in the fun of using or the quality of the photos.

If you really have a need for a very quiet camera you might look at the
Sony DSC-R1. It is a pretty limited camera but for a non-DSLR it does
fairly well.

Scott
Prometheus - 13 Feb 2006 11:08 GMT
>>> The fake (I think) sound of film winding through the camera on my new
>>> Rebel XT is driving me nuts.  Is there any way to shut it off?  There is
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Greg,  It does appear to be the shutter and mirror.  Apparently my Sony 828
>(non-SLR) spoiled me.  This XT is not going to be a good candid camera.

Best for that is one of the compacts with something like an interlens or
leaf shutter, I find my Minolta Xt quite handy for such use. Now, if
someone produced an APS-C range finder with such a shutter...

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Beach Bum - 14 Feb 2006 05:00 GMT
> Greg,  It does appear to be the shutter and mirror.  Apparently my Sony 828
> (non-SLR) spoiled me.  This XT is not going to be a good candid camera.

The 717 would mike a nearly silent click-click during exposure (stupid
simulation sounds turned off of course) - perfect for weddings and stuff.
The 20D mirror slapping around in the box turns heads occationally.
Probably due to SLR envy. <g>

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