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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / February 2006D200 and raw files
Is there a good source of information I read up on regarding using raw format in my workflow (camera->Adobe Photoshop CS), I have heard that I may not be able to diddle the raw files directly from photoshop. I would also like to get the skinny on what the advantages are in using raw vs some other format Thanks in advance /pgr > Is there a good source of information I read up on regarding using raw > format in my workflow (camera->Adobe Photoshop CS), I have heard that I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > /pgr In My experience---- &YMMV Advantages dynamic range is more adjustable. Disadvantages, you need to know how to get back to the original scene and raw files open slower. Jpegs tend to look the way you intended, raw -not always without some manipulation.  Signature"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 greg_____photo(dot)com >Is there a good source of information I read up on regarding using raw >format in my workflow (camera->Adobe Photoshop CS), I have heard that I >may not be able to diddle the raw files directly from photoshop. RAW files are read-only although Photoshop will record the setting you used for the conversion. > I >would also like to get the skinny on what the advantages are in using >raw vs some other format You adjust color balance and even do some limited exposure adjustment after you've taken the picture. There is more information recorded in RAW format than in other formats. SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net > You adjust color balance and even do some limited exposure > adjustment after you've taken the picture. There is more > information recorded in RAW format than in other formats. Err, somewhat understated ... You can (and should) do so many adjustments in the RAW converter that the likes of Jeff Schewe have gone as far as describing Photoshop as being "a plug in for the converter" rather than the other way around. One of the things that I think many people don't appreciate about the raw converter is that many of the adjustments don't adjust the image "per sec" - they adjust and fine tune the conversion process - resulting in results that simply can't be duplicated without a lot of work in photoshop (if they can be done at all). If you try the same adjustments after the gamma has been converted you simply run out of levels. I had a case-in-point just yesterday - a friend called me up to say he'd be flying over my house in a few minutes - so I grabbed the camera and snapped some shots of him doing an orbit around my house - only problem was I had the camera set for average metering, and since the aircraft was only a tiny tiny portion of the scene I ended up with totally blown highlights. I tried to fix this in PS - no luck - I was re-reading Bruce Frasers book on the topic last night and decided to try correcting the exposure in ACR - and blow-my-down (pun intended!) the damn thing recovered something like around 2 1/2 stops. I was VERY impressed. >Is there a good source of information I read up on regarding using raw >format in my workflow (camera->Adobe Photoshop CS), I have heard that I >may not be able to diddle the raw files directly from photoshop. I >would also like to get the skinny on what the advantages are in using >raw vs some other format You need to get: _Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2_ by Bruce Fraser http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321334094/104-2955653-0239918?v=glance&n=283155 Here's the CS version: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/032127878X/104-2955653-0239918?v=glance&n=283155 RAW is the only format to use as a starting point for your images. ********************************************************** "A combat photographer should be able to make you see the color of blood in black and white" David Douglas Duncan Speaking on why in Vietnam he worked only in black and white http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/ > You need to get: > > _Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2_ > by Bruce Fraser I'll 2nd that - there is NO substitute. > > You need to get: > > > > _Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2_ > > by Bruce Fraser > > I'll 2nd that - there is NO substitute. I'll 3rd that. It meets or exceeds all reasonable expectations. With one proviso - the original post mentioned CS, and perhaps the CS version of that book would be better? (I have both - I don't think I would have been happy using the CS2 version of the book when I was using ACR 2.x). -- Barry Pearson http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/ http://www.birdsandanimals.info/ > I'll 3rd that. It meets or exceeds all reasonable expectations. > > With one proviso - the original post mentioned CS, and perhaps the CS > version of that book would be better? (I have both - I don't think I 3.3 is the only version of Camera RAW that supports D200, and it works only in CS2 . B. >Is there a good source of information I read up on regarding using raw >format in my workflow (camera->Adobe Photoshop CS), I have heard that I >may not be able to diddle the raw files directly from photoshop. I >would also like to get the skinny on what the advantages are in using >raw vs some other format You need the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw for D200 support. I'm not sure if CS will support it or not. CS2 does. Go take a look on the Adobe web site. SignatureEd Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com) http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photography/General/index.html [snip] > You need the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw for D200 support. I'm not > sure if CS will support it or not. CS2 does. Go take a look on the Adobe > web site. ACR 3.3 doesn't work with CS. CS can support the D200 via the DNG route. The original poster can use the 3.3 DNG Converter to generate DNG derivatives of the NEFs, folder at a time. Then ACR 2.4 in CS will handle those DNG files. -- Barry Pearson http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/ http://www.birdsandanimals.info/ > [snip] >> You need the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw for D200 support. I'm not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > derivatives of the NEFs, folder at a time. Then ACR 2.4 in CS will > handle those DNG files. Its moot, I upgraded to CS2 so I should be all good, I 've got some reading and experimenting to do, woohoo > ...I have heard that I > may not be able to diddle the raw files directly from photoshop. I think the D200 has the same issue with WB not readable by the CS converter but you can probably get close enough. > I think the D200 has the same issue with WB not readable by the CS > converter but you can probably get close enough. Camera Raw can read the Nikon as-shot white balance now. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com > Is there a good source of information I read up on regarding using raw > format in my workflow (camera->Adobe Photoshop CS), I have heard that I > may not be able to diddle the raw files directly from photoshop. I would > also like to get the skinny on what the advantages are in using raw vs > some other format PS CS2 has a raw update (3.3 I believe) available for download that can handle the D200. Toby >> Is there a good source of information I read up on regarding using raw >> format in my workflow (camera->Adobe Photoshop CS), I have heard that I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Toby It does, I downloaded it, thanks, and thanks to everyone else who gave me references for books to get on using raw format, I am, well I am not moving from, I just figured it was time to add a dslr to my film arsenal (actually, the arsenal is a sole F100, I love that camera....) |
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