Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
PhotoKB Home
Discussion Groups
Digital Photography
Digital PhotoDSLR CamerasZLR CamerasPoint & Shoot Cameras
Film Photography
35 mmLarge FormatMedium formatDarkroomFilm and LabsOther Equipment
Photo Technique
Nature PhotographyPeople PhotographyTechnique General
General Photo Topics
General TopicsAustralian PhotographyUK Photography
DirectoryPhoto Clubs

Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / July 2006

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Yet another sensor cleaning thread

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Brian Gideon - 04 Feb 2006 05:28 GMT
I'd like to update the group on my first experience using the "Copper
Hill" method.  I have owned a Canon 300D for about 1.5 years.  I
started noticing a couple of specs in f/11 and higher images recently
so I decided it was time to clean the sensor.

I took a test shot at f/22 of white wall and did an auto level
adjustment in Photoshop to see how many pesky spots I had.  I was quite
surprised.  There were too many to count, but I can say with some level
of confidence that is was over 100.  My first attempt with a Pec-Pad
and Eclipse yielded great results.  I counted about 30 spots.  My
second attempt took the number down to 10.  The big offenders that
showed up in f/11 are gone.  At this point I was satisfied with the
results and called it quits.

The method was actually pretty easy.  I was very careful not to
contaminate the Pec-Pad.  I found that if you lay one pad on your work
area it can be used as a contanimate free place to rest an additional
pad that will eventually go on the sensor swipe.  Otherwise, it would
have been difficult getting the pad on the sensor swipe without coming
into contact with a contaminated object.

Brian
Stacey - 04 Feb 2006 07:15 GMT
>  I
> started noticing a couple of specs in f/11 and higher images recently
> so I decided it was time to clean the sensor.

No it wasn't time to clean it, I'm the only person on this group who thinks
dSLR sensors ever need to be cleaned or that dust can be a problem.
Everyone knows sensor dust isn't something to be concerned with, except me?

Signature


 Stacey

JPS@no.komm - 04 Feb 2006 21:31 GMT
>No it wasn't time to clean it, I'm the only person on this group who thinks
>dSLR sensors ever need to be cleaned or that dust can be a problem.
>Everyone knows sensor dust isn't something to be concerned with, except me?

Nonsense.  Most people hate sensor dust.  We just don't think of it as
the ultimate deal-breaker.  You want us all to bow down before Olympus
and worship their self-cleaning sensor; but I can't bow, because my
Canon works better in low light, and a few dark spots are better than an
image filled with darkness to maintain a useable shutter speed.
Besides, I don't get any dark spots in low light, because the lens is
open too much for it to happen.  In fact, most situations in which dust
is a problem are situations in which the small aperture was totally
unnecessary.  A more intelligent auto-exposure/ISO mode could avoid
those pesky pinhole apertures.  Most of my "speck" images occur when I
am in Tv mode and/or high ISO because of low light, and suddenly have to
shoot in bright light (like an unexpected raptor above a clearing in the
woods).
Signature


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
  John P Sheehy         <JPS@no.komm>

><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>><
Basic Wedge - 06 Feb 2006 03:09 GMT
> Canon works better in low light... Besides, I don't get any dark spots in
> low light, because the lens is
> open too much for it to happen.

Yes, wide open - all the way to f/5.6 :(    Those awesomely fast Canon
lenses! Or do you have one of their f/6.3 models? No wonder Canon puts so
much value on ISO ratings. HaHaHa

Rob
Bart van der Wolf - 06 Feb 2006 12:41 GMT
>>No it wasn't time to clean it, I'm the only person on this group who
>>thinks
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> as
> the ultimate deal-breaker.

I agree. If it adds too much time in postprocessing, it's time for a
cleaning session. I've only once 'had' to do a 'wet' cleaning session
in several years, and it indeed also got rid of some of the spots that
have been there since day one. I use VisibleDust brushes for regular
cleaning, and I keep the brushes clean with alcohol and a PecPad.

Since I rarely shoot at f/11 or smaller, the sky is one of the few
areas that need checking for blobs. Photoshop CS2's Spot Healing brush
tool works very fast there.

Bart
Alan Bremner - 05 Feb 2006 22:09 GMT
>I'm the only person on this group who thinks dSLR sensors ever need to be
>cleaned or that dust can be a problem.

Rubbish. Many, myself included,  have experienced dirty sensors. You
*are* the only person who treats it as A Big Thing, however.

>Everyone knows sensor dust isn't something to be concerned with, except me?

It's only "a problem" if you let it affect your images and/or your
sanity. Most of us give a 10s blast with a Rocket or similar now and
again and have few "problems".

Brian has had his camera for 18 months and "the dust problem" was only
noticed recently. Jeez, I had to clean crap out of my OMs more often
than that!

Al
Signature

[This space left intentionally blank]

Brian Gideon - 06 Feb 2006 01:00 GMT
> It's only "a problem" if you let it affect your images and/or your
> sanity. Most of us give a 10s blast with a Rocket or similar now and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> noticed recently. Jeez, I had to clean crap out of my OMs more often
> than that!

Exactly.  There were only two big offenders at f/11 and they weren't in
sharp focus so they were barely noticeable.  I don't even have that
many shots at f/11 anyway.  And like you said I've had the camera for a
long time.  I'd hardly call it a problem.  I would have been content
letting it go longer, but I had heard cleaning is simple if done
correctly so I decided to give it try.  Also, notice how I didn't
bother getting 100% removal.  It just wasn't that important to me.  I
don't plan on cleaning it again anytime soon.
Bart van der Wolf - 04 Feb 2006 13:06 GMT
SNIP
> I found that if you lay one pad on your work area it can be
> used as a contanimate free place to rest an additional pad
> that will eventually go on the sensor swipe.  Otherwise, it
> would have been difficult getting the pad on the sensor
> swipe without coming into contact with a contaminated
> object.

I pull a PecPad out of the package, just holding it by the edge, and
without laying it down I wrap it as suggested on the swipe. It's
perfectly okay to touch the pad anywhere except for near the edge
that'll get into contact with the sensor. Two drops of Eclipse and
that's all, very fast.

Bart
Sheldon - 10 Jul 2006 04:15 GMT
> SNIP
>> I found that if you lay one pad on your work area it can be
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Bart
I've also reached a point where I can wrap a PecPad without putting the
thing down, and the results, after some practice, are great.  I can now get
a sensor 100% clean on the first try.  Often, using a blower just adds more
spots, so I use the blower first to clean out the mirror and prism, and then
attack the sensor with a swab after trying the blower.

Never had much luck with those brushes.  They just seem to move things
around, and I have followed the directions.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.