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Minolta Dyanx 7D Views

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Dave Hellberg - 25 Nov 2004 05:10 GMT
Has anyone in group Bought one yet and if so
are you pleased with it or not
I am waiting for them to arrive in New Zealand and would
like some ideas if they are worth buying

Cheers Dave Hellberg
Palmerston North
New Zealand
Bob Harrington - 25 Nov 2004 09:53 GMT
> Has anyone in group Bought one yet and if so
> are you pleased with it or not
> I am waiting for them to arrive in New Zealand and would
> like some ideas if they are worth buying

I got my 7D here in Seattle, (in the northwest USA) on November 15th and
I'm in love...

My main reason for going with the Maxxum/Dynax is the collection of
lenses and accessories I already had for my Maxxum 9xi's.  All the
lenses work well (Minolta 50 f/1.4 & 50 f/2.8 Macro; Tamron 35-105
f/2.8; Sigma 75-300 f/4~5.6 APO & 500 f/7.2; Tokina 20-35 f/3.5)

My Tamron 1.4x and 2x tele-extenders work okay only if I turn off
autofocus; if AF is on, the camera just sorta growls the focusing motor
but won't focus or allow shutter release, no matter which lens I use.

My 18 year-old Minolta 4000AF strobe also doesn't talk much to the
camera other than to fire when the shutter is released; it's auto-zoom
head also still responds to zooming a lens.  I will have to go back and
dust off the brain cell that supposedly learned how to calculate via
guide numbers, ISOs and distance - or I can just use the brute force
trial-and-error method since I have instant feedback - that method has
worked very nicely in my tests so far.  Might look into one of the newer
whizbang Minolta strobes when I gather up some more pennies, but I
really don't do all that much flash photography.

I also got the VC-7D Vertical Control Grip which seems to work very
nicely, it gives me a better grip on the camera than I usually have on
reality (not like that's saying a lot...), and it has room for two
NP-400 batteries - a nice feature is that it will operate also with only
one battery installed, or with 6 AA Ni-Mh cells (haven't tried the
latter.)

I'm using a Hitachi 4Gb Microdrive which has been trouble-free so far
other than it fits quite snugly into the slot, I have a little trouble
getting my big fingers in to pull it out after pushing the eject lever -
still better than having it go sproinging out over the rim at Crater
Lake or into the intake of a jet...  I have managed to about half fill
it so far and have only recharged the batteries once, and then only
after a big set of long nighttime exposure tests - these also turned out
quite well, at least here close to a city core with brightly light
polluted skies, Seattle hasn't had a clear night yet to try some
starscape photos, maybe next August.  The 2 second delay release mode is
great for such tripod shots, the 7D locks up the mirror when you press
the shutter allowing vibrations to damp before the actual exposure -
schweet!

Coming from decades of slides, I really like being able to change ISO in
'mid roll' - even at ISO 800, noise is minimal; at 3200 there is a fair
bit, but still less than I get scanning an ISO 200 negative in my Nikon
Coolscan 4000ED.  Was having fun late last night riding home with a
friend, handholding amazingly short exposures out the windshield at ISO
3200 with a 1.4 lens that showed very nicely the moron in the next lane
aggressively tailgating the poor sot in front of him.

The anti-shake system seems to work quite well, and is a real plus for
me as I'm not as steady as I used to be with this bum back; Minolta also
came to my rescue like this in 1985 when they brought out the Maxxum
7000 AF just as my eyesight was taking a decided turn for the worse. The
data display on the 7D is also a real help for my crummy eyes - I can
set it to the minimal data mode where just the most important details
are shown in even larger text - much easier for me to see than the LCD
panels on my 9xi's or the smaller viewfinder readouts, though the 7D is
better there compared to the 9xi, too.

Summing up, I'm really happy with my new toy!  I've had a Sony Mavica
CD1000 for four years, nice for what it does, but nowhere near a match
for a 'real' camera - this is my first experience with a DSLR, I don't
think I will be shooting a whole lot of film from here on out!

Bob ^,,^
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Rosita Herrick - 27 Nov 2004 18:12 GMT
> > Has anyone in group Bought one yet and if so
> > are you pleased with it or not
Hi,

I ordered mine from Dell. they have a %15 rebate and if you apply for
their card you get an additional %2 off and no interest until 2006.
Suppoosedly the camera will ship 12/8 or before.

Can hardly wait because I too have an assortment of minolta lenses and
the Anti Shake capability will let me use them without a tripod.
I originally was looking at the Canon 20D but the IS lenses would have
cost me a second mortgage on my house and since my hands are not quise
as steady as they used to be in my youth, the anti shake is a must.
SDW - 04 Dec 2004 08:35 GMT
Do you have any xi style lenses and dothey work?

>> Has anyone in group Bought one yet and if so
>> are you pleased with it or not
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> Bob ^,,^
> http://bobqat.com
Bob Harrington - 05 Dec 2004 09:09 GMT
> Do you have any xi style lenses and dothey work?

Sorry, I don't have any xi lenses...

From the 7D manual:

"LENS COMPATIBILITY

All Konica Minolta AF lenses are compatible with this camera. MD and MC
series lenses cannot be used. For our current line of lenses, contact
your Konica Minolta dealer.  The AF Macro Zoom 3X - 1X f/1.7-2.8 cannot
be used with Anti-Shake (p. 32); turn Anti-Shake off. If a lens is
equipped with a macro release, the release cannot be used with
Anti-Shake. Focus range limiters set to a range that does not include
infinity cannot be used. The focus range limiter on the SSM-series or
D-series macro lenses can be used at any set range. Anti-Shake may not
work with products made by another manufacturer."

I did take the new toy on a four day vacation to Oregon last weekend,
over 900 images at highest res and lowest compression (not RAW) and
still didn't quite fill the 4GB microdrive.  Other than some dust issues
on the sensor (I need a better puff blower), no problems other than
those caused by the loose nut holding the shutter release...

Bob ^,,^
Alan Browne - 05 Dec 2004 16:26 GMT
> I did take the new toy on a four day vacation to Oregon last weekend,
> over 900 images at highest res and lowest compression (not RAW) and
> still didn't quite fill the 4GB microdrive.

Anything to post / comments on the shots posted / etc.

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Bob Harrington - 06 Dec 2004 02:06 GMT
>> I did take the new toy on a four day vacation to Oregon last weekend,
>> over 900 images at highest res and lowest compression (not RAW) and
>> still didn't quite fill the 4GB microdrive.
>
> Anything to post / comments on the shots posted / etc.

Still slowly working through the images - I have really bad eyes, makes
me rather slow on the reputer here.

I was quite impressed by the image below, taken through the windshield
from the passenger seat on the long drive - gives an idea of the
anti-shake in action.  Hand held with a Minolta 50mm (75mm effective)
f/1.4 wide open, ISO 3200 and 1/8 sec.  Other than the headlights, all
illumination was provided by the nearly full moon, the sun having set
over an hour earlier.

Except for a pass through NoiseNinja and resampling, straight from the
camera:

 http://home.comcast.net/~bobqatphotos/7D/2004-11-25_17-35-39.jpg

What I thought at first to be sensor noise or reflections that just
happened to look a lot like the Pleiades turned out to ~be~ the Pleiades
when I checked with Starry Night Pro.

  (Full res crop)
 http://home.comcast.net/~bobqatphotos/7D/2004-11-25_17-35-39_Crop.jpg

  (Starry Night Pro simulation)
 http://home.comcast.net/~bobqatphotos/7D/2004-11-25_17-35-39_SNPro.jpg

Otherwise, from just looking through the images, I am quite happy
overall.  The 7D seems to do a decent enough job with exposures and
focusing, the exception being my Sigma 500mm f/7.2 APO that I just can't
seem to get sharp images from - I'd been noticing this recently on my
older Maxxum 9xi's as well, thinking something has been knocked askew
inside the lens.  My other interest is aviation photography, so I will
need to get that fixed/replaced by next summer, durnit.

The controls are intuitive enough even for my beleaguered brain cell,
and the LCD panel display is big and bright enough that even I can use
it quite easily, indoors or out.  I did somehow unintentionally dial in
+2 EV exposure compensation while stumbling over a snow drift up at
Crater Lake - didn't notice it right away as I was busy freezing off
important body parts and squinting into blowing snow.  Other than that,
I do feel the 7D is a little better protected against inadvertent
settings changes while brushing against clothing, etc. than my 9xi's
were.

A couple random shots from my neighborhood in Seattle:

 http://home.comcast.net/~bobqatphotos/7D/2004-11-21_Seattle.jpg
  Tokina 20~35mm f/3.5~4.5, ISO 200, 13 sec @ f/5.6

 http://home.comcast.net/~bobqatphotos/7D/2004-11-16_Sunset.jpg
  Tokina 20~35mm f/3.5~4.5, ISO 400, 1/125 sec @ f/9

 http://home.comcast.net/~bobqatphotos/7D/2004-11-19_Braniff.jpg
  My beastie Braniff, Tamron 35~105 f/2.8, ISO 100, 1/100 sec @ f/4
  using bounce lighting from my old Minolta 4000AF strobe.  Alas, the
  4000AF does not talk to the 7D beyond firing when told to (and the
  auto-zoom head still seems to work correctly.)  Thinking about one of
  Minolta's newer dedicated strobes, but for now it's easy enough just
  using trial and error with the instant feedback.  Anybody know a good
  "Guide Numbers for Dummies" tutorial?  ;^)

Bob ^,,^
Marc De Cnop - 09 Dec 2004 19:38 GMT
Bye
Marc De Cnop <>
Thu, 09 Dec 2004 21:36:11 +0200

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Harrington" <rch.NOS-PAM@blarg.net> Sent: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:
09:16 Subject: Re: Minolta Dyanx 7D Views

SDW wrote:
> Do you have any xi style lenses and dothey work?

Sorry, I don't have any xi lenses...

From the 7D manual:

"LENS COMPATIBILITY

All Konica Minolta AF lenses are compatible with this camera. MD and MC
series lenses cannot be used. For our current line of lenses, contact your
Konica Minolta dealer. The AF Macro Zoom 3X - 1X f/1.7-2.8 cannot be used
with Anti-Shake (p. 32); turn Anti-Shake off. If a lens is equipped with a
macro release, the release cannot be used with Anti-Shake. Focus range
limiters set to a range that does not include infinity cannot be used. The
focus range limiter on the SSM-series or D-series macro lenses can be used
at any set range. Anti-Shake may not work with products made by another
manufacturer."

I did take the new toy on a four day vacation to Oregon last weekend, over
900 images at highest res and lowest compression (not RAW) and still didn't
quite fill the 4GB microdrive. Other than some dust issues on the sensor (I
need a better puff blower), no problems other than those caused by the
loose nut holding the shutter release...

Bob ^,,^
Marc De Cnop - 09 Dec 2004 19:38 GMT
Bye
Marc De Cnop <marc.decnop@skynet.be> Thu, 09 Dec 2004 21:37:00 +0200

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Harrington" <rch.NOS-PAM@blarg.net> Sent: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:
09:16 Subject: Re: Minolta Dyanx 7D Views

SDW wrote:
> Do you have any xi style lenses and dothey work?

Sorry, I don't have any xi lenses...

From the 7D manual:

"LENS COMPATIBILITY

All Konica Minolta AF lenses are compatible with this camera. MD and MC
series lenses cannot be used. For our current line of lenses, contact your
Konica Minolta dealer. The AF Macro Zoom 3X - 1X f/1.7-2.8 cannot be used
with Anti-Shake (p. 32); turn Anti-Shake off. If a lens is equipped with a
macro release, the release cannot be used with Anti-Shake. Focus range
limiters set to a range that does not include infinity cannot be used. The
focus range limiter on the SSM-series or D-series macro lenses can be used
at any set range. Anti-Shake may not work with products made by another
manufacturer."

I did take the new toy on a four day vacation to Oregon last weekend, over
900 images at highest res and lowest compression (not RAW) and still didn't
quite fill the 4GB microdrive. Other than some dust issues on the sensor (I
need a better puff blower), no problems other than those caused by the
loose nut holding the shutter release...

Bob ^,,^
 
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