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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / January 2005Anyone know how to stop Adobe Photoshop from...
deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and installing it's useless crap instead? Other programs, such as Micrografx, leave the data alone. If I can't fix it, I will delete Photoshop. I don't need their useless ad in my photos... > deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and installing > it's useless crap instead? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If I can't fix it, I will delete Photoshop. I don't need their useless ad in my > photos... Post your proof! or: What steps, exactly, are you taking such that you are deleting EXIF info.  SignatureJohn McWilliam >> deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and >> installing it's useless crap instead? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > Post your proof! or: Look at a PS saved image to see it. They erase much of the original info saved from the camera. SignatureStacey > Look at a PS saved image to see it. They erase much of the original info > saved from the camera. I took a photo straight from my DigiReb, a copy that was opened in PS 6 and saved, and one that was opened in PS, resized, and saved. I ran the three of them through ExifTool, the original had 125 lines of information, the other two had 129 lines. There were differences in FileSize, FileName, ImageSize, ImageHeight, ImageWidth, where you would expext them to be. PhotoShop added "PhotoshopFormat", "PhotoShopQuality", "PhotoShopThumbnail", and "ProgressiveScans" - but *ALL* of the original Exif data was still there. Steve > deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and > installing > it's useless crap instead? Can't check at the moment, but I think it is the 'save for web' function that strips this info. I guess to reduce the size as much as possible. R. >>deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and >>installing >>it's useless crap instead? > > Can't check at the moment, but I think it is the 'save for web' function > that strips this info. I guess to reduce the size as much as possible. The full exif data takes up something like 15K so is really not appropriate for web use, definitely not in thumbnails. If you want to keep it, use Save a Copy /Saveas instead. >deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and installing >it's useless crap instead? Export using Image Ready. Ron Ron Lacey Murillo Ontario ron@ronsfotos.com > deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and installing > it's useless crap instead? Photoshop CS does not appear to delete any EXIF data. >> deleting the EXIF data from the jpeg version of the photograph and >installing >> it's useless crap instead? > >Photoshop CS does not appear to delete any EXIF data. I believe the current theory is that the original complainant was using "Save for Web", which does trim EXIF content. OK I should have specified that if I load in a RAW format picture and save it as a JPG (I haven't tried any other format) then the EXIF is gone, just a version of Photoshop data is there. That means I have to convert to jpeg in Nikon E. and then save and re-load into Photoshop to edit - trashing the quality of the photo... an example... using 'save as' of the RAW file as a jpg in Photoshop: File: - I:\!_Nikon_D70\2004\05_(May)\09_(691-708)_RAW\DSC_0706.jpg Orientation - Top left XResolution - 300 YResolution - 300 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 DateTime - 2005:01:24 19:57:09 ExifOffset - 164 ColorSpace - Uncalibrated ExifImageWidth - 3008 ExifImageHeight - 2000 If I do the same thing in Nikon Edit - the original photo data EXIF remains intact: File: - I:\!_Nikon_D70\2004\05_(May)\09_(691-708)_RAW\Garden\DSC_0704.jpg Make - NIKON CORPORATION Model - NIKON D70 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 300 YResolution - 300 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Nikon Browser 6.2.1 W DateTime - 2004:05:09 22:28:59 YCbCrPositioning - Centered ReferenceBlackWhite - 0 ExifOffset - 280 ExposureTime - 3125/1000000 seconds FNumber - 9 ExposureProgram - Normal program ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2004:05:09 13:55:16 DateTimeDigitized - 2004:05:09 13:55:16 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 4.76 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired FocalLength - 56 mm UserComment - SubsecTime - 12345 SubsecTimeOriginal - 12345 SubsecTimeDigitized - 12345 FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - Uncalibrated ExifImageWidth - 3008 ExifImageHeight - 2000 InteroperabilityOffset - 882 SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Normal process ExposureMode - Auto WhiteBalance - Auto DigitalZoomRatio - 1 x FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 84 mm SceneCaptureType - Standard GainControl - None Contrast - Normal Saturation - Normal Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Data version - 808464944 ISO Setting - 0 Quality - RAW White Balance - AUTO Image Sharpening - AUTO Focus Mode - AF-S Unknown (11) - 8, 0 Unknown (12) - 5, 544 Unknown (13) - 7, 393472 Unknown (14) - 7, 786688 Unknown (17) - 4, 5527 Unknown (19) - 3, 26214400 Unknown (23) - 7, 393472 Unknown (24) - 7, 393472 Unknown (25) - 10, 576 Unknown (129) - 2, 584 Unknown (131) - 1, 2 Unknown (132) - 5, 594 Unknown (135) - 1, 0 AF Focus Position - 16777217 Unknown (137) - 3, 0 Unknown (139) - 7, 786752 Unknown (140) - 7, 626 Unknown (141) - 2, 4786 Unknown (144) - 2, 4796 Unknown (145) - 7, 4808 Unknown (146) - 8, 0 Noise Reduction - OFF Unknown (151) - 7, 5279 Unknown (152) - 7, 5419 Unknown (153) - 3, 66061808 Unknown (154) - 5, 5451 Unknown (160) - 2, 5467 Unknown (162) - 4, 2637973 Unknown (164) - 7, 808464944 Unknown (167) - 4, 743 Unknown (169) - 2, 5489 Unknown (170) - 2, 5497 Unknown (171) - 2, 32 Unknown (3593) - 2, 5505 Unknown (3600) - 4, 5621 > OK I should have specified that if I load in a RAW format picture and save > it as a JPG (I haven't tried any other format) then the EXIF is gone, just a > version of Photoshop data is there. The information is still there, it's just that Photoshop saves it in XMP format, so whatever you're using to read the EXIF data needs to understand that format. SignatureJeremy | jeremy@exit109.com > OK I should have specified that if I load in a RAW format picture and save it > as a JPG (I haven't tried any other format) then the EXIF is gone, just a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Software - Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 > DateTime - 2005:01:24 19:57:09 For heaven's sake: You have been going on and on about PS, and all the while it's Elements, - v2 at that- that you're really talking about. SignatureJohn McWilliams >> OK I should have specified that if I load in a RAW format picture and save it >> as a JPG (I haven't tried any other format) then the EXIF is gone, just a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >For heaven's sake: You have been going on and on about PS, and all the >while it's Elements, - v2 at that- that you're really talking about. So it's Elements that is the problem? I should up-grade to the pro version? >>> OK I should have specified that if I load in a RAW format picture and save it >>> as a JPG (I haven't tried any other format) then the EXIF is gone, just a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >So it's Elements that is the problem? I should up-grade to the pro version? You might just try going to the current version of Elements; that has no problem saving all the EXIF data in a JPG file. (Doesn't Elements 2.0 store the data in XMP format? That's perfect permissible, but it's unlikely that your little EXIF dumper tool understands XMP) >>>> OK I should have specified that if I load in a RAW format picture and save it >>>> as a JPG (I haven't tried any other format) then the EXIF is gone, just a [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >You might just try going to the current version of Elements; >that has no problem saving all the EXIF data in a JPG file. I know it saves jpg to jpg - but RAW?? >(Doesn't Elements 2.0 store the data in XMP format? > That's perfect permissible, but it's unlikely that > your little EXIF dumper tool understands XMP) I don't know - I've tried reading the exif with both windows XP and with Irfanview - no dice. And when they do see the exif - they can't find the ISO! Only Nikon View sees it. Too bad people don't know the word 'standards'... > I don't know - I've tried reading the exif with both windows XP and with > Irfanview - no dice. > > And when they do see the exif - they can't find the ISO! Only Nikon View sees > it. Hmm that sounds familiar. Sounds like Nikon screwed that up if it's true. I've played with several exif readers & writers & mismatches are pretty common. >>>>For heaven's sake: You have been going on and on about PS, and all the >>>>while it's Elements, - v2 at that- that you're really talking about. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I know it saves jpg to jpg - but RAW?? Yes, RAW. I'm sure of that - I checked it before I first posted. (That's why I bought Elements 3.0 - it includes Adobe Camera Raw) And when I saved to a JPG (after converting to 8-bit, of course) all the EXIF data from my original RAW file got saved in the JPG, and I was able to see it from a non-photoshop application. >>>>>For heaven's sake: You have been going on and on about PS, and all the >>>>>while it's Elements, - v2 at that- that you're really talking about. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >all the EXIF data from my original RAW file got saved in the JPG, >and I was able to see it from a non-photoshop application. I just got an offer from Adobe to upgrade (do they have spy's??) they want $300US to upgrade to the full version. That's maybe 400 Canuck Loonies... hmmmm |
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