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Dust visible at f/36

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paul - 21 Jan 2005 22:51 GMT
I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust? It is invisible at
reasonable f-stops. Here is a 100% crop:
<http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/2005-
01-19-view/f-stop-test&PG=1&PIC=2
>
That's bad! This is just a tiny bit of the image & they are solid black.

Or is that gunk on the end of the lens in focus due to the greater depth
of field? I can see a big fleck of shiny something about 1/2-inch inside
the front, I tried dusting off the sensor gently & removing the filter
from the front & dusting that with canned air. The blobs remained in
position. I know my house is very dusty & I also shoot out in the woods,
etc.
Rudy Benner - 22 Jan 2005 00:19 GMT
>I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone splattered
>mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust? It is invisible at reasonable f-stops.
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> position. I know my house is very dusty & I also shoot out in the woods,
> etc.

Those are UFOs.
Mac Tabak - 22 Jan 2005 00:27 GMT
>I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone splattered
>mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust? It is invisible at reasonable f-stops.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> position. I know my house is very dusty & I also shoot out in the woods,
> etc.
f.ck man the quality sucks!!!!
paul - 22 Jan 2005 00:38 GMT
Rather horrible, isn't it?
Steve Wolfe - 22 Jan 2005 02:12 GMT
> f.ck man the quality sucks!!!!

 Long distances combined with haze and smog will tend to do that.

steve
paul - 22 Jan 2005 06:25 GMT
>>f.ck man the quality sucks!!!!
>
>   Long distances combined with haze and smog will tend to do that.

200mm zoom from 28mm plus hazy winter valley fog plus a curve to emphasize.
Bart van der Wolf - 22 Jan 2005 00:28 GMT
>I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
>splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust?
>It is invisible at reasonable f-stops. Here is a 100% crop:
> <http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/2005-
01-19-view/f-stop-test&PG=1&PIC=2
>

It's sensor dust.

Bart
paul - 22 Jan 2005 00:47 GMT
>> I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
>> splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust?
>> It is invisible at reasonable f-stops. Here is a 100% crop:
>> <http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/2005-
01-19-view/f-stop-test&PG=1&PIC=2
>
>
> It's sensor dust.

Yeah I guess so. I just tried a little shot of air with the mirror
lock-up this time (doh) & lost some of them but will have to get a
proper cleaning kit or technique.

Strange the way they are only visible at such a crazy f-stop. Just
hideous though!
Bart van der Wolf - 22 Jan 2005 01:37 GMT
>>> I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
>>> splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> lock-up this time (doh) & lost some of them but will have to get a
> proper cleaning kit or technique.

Yes, the better ones are:
http://www.visibledust.com/sensorbrush.htm (it really works, I can say
from experience), and
http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning for the really stubborn
stuff.

> Strange the way they are only visible at such a crazy f-stop. Just
> hideous though!

At those narrow apertures, the cone of light that's focused on the
sensor's pixels is very narrow, which tends to produce sharp/harsh
shadows.

Bart
jean - 22 Jan 2005 15:01 GMT
> Yes, the better ones are:
> http://www.visibledust.com/sensorbrush.htm (it really works, I can say
> from experience), and

Seconded, works as advertised.  Expensive, but I don't have to go to a
service center and I don't feel right about putting liquids inside my
camera.

Jean
sid derra - 23 Jan 2005 00:15 GMT
> >>> I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
> >>> splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust?
> >>> It is invisible at reasonable f-stops. Here is a 100% crop:

<http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/
2005-01-19-view/f-stop-test&PG=1&PIC=2>

> >> It's sensor dust.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning for the really stubborn
> stuff.

used it on my d70 - very happy with the results...

sid
Avery - 22 Jan 2005 04:14 GMT
How did you lock the mirror up? I thought the D70 didn't have mirror
lockup?
chris - 22 Jan 2005 04:17 GMT
> How did you lock the mirror up? I thought the D70 didn't have mirror
> lockup?

He's talking about cleaning, with mirror up, not during photoshooting.
Leith Cassone - 22 Jan 2005 07:34 GMT
It's in the Custom Functions...

>How did you lock the mirror up? I thought the D70 didn't have mirror
>lockup?

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Sheldon - 24 Jan 2005 05:13 GMT
Locking up the mirror on a D70 is only for cleaning, not for shooting.

> It's in the Custom Functions...
>
>>How did you lock the mirror up? I thought the D70 didn't have mirror
>>lockup?
>
> --------------------------------
Musty - 22 Jan 2005 00:38 GMT
> I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
> splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust? It is invisible at
> reasonable f-stops. Here is a 100% crop:

<http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/
2005-01-19-view/f-stop-test&PG=1&PIC=2>
> That's bad! This is just a tiny bit of the image & they are solid black.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> position. I know my house is very dusty & I also shoot out in the woods,
> etc.

Use the rocket bulb blower. It worked for me on the 20D.
Dave R knows who - 24 Jan 2005 22:29 GMT
>> I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
>> splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust? It is invisible at
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Use the rocket bulb blower. It worked for me on the 20D.

Me too. However when I first bought it I was mad because it didn't work well
enough. So I got the Sensorswab and the Eclipse and this got the sensors
clean on my 1D and 300D.  But nowadays I'm just a lot more careful and blow
out regularly -  before and after lifting the mirror - that I haven't had to
swab the sensor for months.
hyperion - 22 Jan 2005 18:07 GMT
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> I just tried a shot at f/36 with the D70 & it looks like someone
> splattered mud on my lens. Is that sensor dust? It is invisible at
> reasonable f-stops.
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Doctors know this phenomenon as "mouches voulantes" in the human eye.
When the pupil (aperture) is narrow because of bright light one can see the
anomalies in the media of the eye more clearly.
I expect the same to happen in camera's.
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Regards,
Hyperion

Alan Browne- - 22 Jan 2005 22:27 GMT
> ----------cut
>
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> anomalies in the media of the eye more clearly.
> I expect the same to happen in camera's.

You mean when we see 'floaters' in our sight?

(I believe you mean 'mouches volantes')
                               ==

Cheers,
Alan

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hyperion - 23 Jan 2005 07:53 GMT
>> ----------cut
>>
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>
> (I believe you mean 'mouches volantes')

Yes, indeed! (Both questions ;-)  )
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