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Carl Zeiss ZF lenses for Nikon?

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cjcampbell - 22 Dec 2005 09:25 GMT
Their web site has been hinting at something of that nature. I guess
the question I have is, why?
Tony Polson - 22 Dec 2005 10:36 GMT
>Their web site has been hinting at something of that nature. I guess
>the question I have is, why?

In early 2006, Carl Zeiss will announce the first in a range of new ZF
lenses with Nikon F mount and. I believe, AI coupling.  The lens range
is a joint venture between Carl Zeiss and Cosina of Japan.

Cosina already makes several of the Carl Zeiss ZM range of lenses for
Leica M mount plus the Zeiss Ikon 35mm rangefinder camera.
Andrew Haley - 22 Dec 2005 10:49 GMT
>>Their web site has been hinting at something of that nature. I guess
>>the question I have is, why?

> In early 2006, Carl Zeiss will announce the first in a range of new ZF
> lenses with Nikon F mount and. I believe, AI coupling.

Are you sure?  AI coupling went out with the Ark.  It would certainly
limit the surefulness of these lenses with newer F-mount cameras.

Andrew.
Philip Homburg - 22 Dec 2005 11:40 GMT
>> In early 2006, Carl Zeiss will announce the first in a range of new ZF
>> lenses with Nikon F mount and. I believe, AI coupling.
>
>Are you sure?  AI coupling went out with the Ark.  It would certainly
>limit the surefulness of these lenses with newer F-mount cameras.

Newer cameras like the F6, D2X, and the D200?

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bob crownfield - 22 Dec 2005 14:48 GMT
>>> In early 2006, Carl Zeiss will announce the first in a range of new ZF
>>> lenses with Nikon F mount and. I believe, AI coupling.
>> Are you sure?  AI coupling went out with the Ark.  It would certainly
>> limit the surefulness of these lenses with newer F-mount cameras.
>
> Newer cameras like the F6, D2X, and the D200?

   "AI coupling went out with the Ark"
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Tony Polson - 22 Dec 2005 15:20 GMT
>>>Their web site has been hinting at something of that nature. I guess
>>>the question I have is, why?
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>Are you sure?  AI coupling went out with the Ark.  It would certainly
>limit the surefulness of these lenses with newer F-mount cameras.

I think you must be confused.  

AI(S) lenses are still being sold *new* by Nikon. The S feature only
works on a few models and is largely useless anyway.

Perhaps you are getting confused with the pre-AI Nikon F mount, which
needed lenses with "ears" to couple to the Photomic meters? They
became obsolescent when Aperture Indexing (AI) was introduced.
Andrew Haley - 22 Dec 2005 20:44 GMT
>>>>Their web site has been hinting at something of that nature. I guess
>>>>the question I have is, why?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>Are you sure?  AI coupling went out with the Ark.  It would certainly
>>limit the surefulness of these lenses with newer F-mount cameras.

> I think you must be confused.  

I doubt it.

> AI(S) lenses are still being sold *new* by Nikon. The S feature only
> works on a few models and is largely useless anyway.

But why not make them CPU lenses?  I suppose that Zeiss lenses will
mostly be used on the high-end cameras that can use AI, but even so it
seems that using the mechanical coupling on a new lens is an odd thing
to do.  We'll see, I suppose.

Andrew.
Father Kodak - 23 Dec 2005 05:10 GMT
>But why not make them CPU lenses?  I suppose that Zeiss lenses will

Could be a licensing issue.  (pure speculation here).

>mostly be used on the high-end cameras that can use AI, but even so it
>seems that using the mechanical coupling on a new lens is an odd thing
>to do.  We'll see, I suppose.

Hey, it's another opportunity for this guy Roland, the guy who "chips"
older Nikon lenses.

http://home.carolina.rr.com/headshots/Nikonhome.htm

Pere Kodak
Father Kodak - 23 Dec 2005 05:03 GMT
>>Their web site has been hinting at something of that nature. I guess
>>the question I have is, why?
>
>In early 2006, Carl Zeiss will announce the first in a range of new ZF
>lenses with Nikon F mount and. I believe, AI coupling.  The lens range
>is a joint venture between Carl Zeiss and Cosina of Japan.

Is that because Cosina already has a license from Nikon for the F
mount?  but perhaps not the D or G series lenses.

Vater Kodak

>Cosina already makes several of the Carl Zeiss ZM range of lenses for
>Leica M mount plus the Zeiss Ikon 35mm rangefinder camera.
Nigel Cummings - 22 Dec 2005 17:10 GMT
Does not sound very liklely to me, AI indexing is incompatible with the
metering systems on Nikon's current range of SLRS and DSLRs.

> Their web site has been hinting at something of that nature. I guess
> the question I have is, why?
Philip Homburg - 22 Dec 2005 18:37 GMT
>Does not sound very liklely to me, AI indexing is incompatible with the
>metering systems on Nikon's current range of SLRS and DSLRs.

s/current range of SLRS and DSLRs/low-budget SLRS and DSLRs/

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could believe what it liked, including the idea that it had been hard done
by. It was allowed to keep its horse, since horses were so cheap to make.
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Tony Polson - 22 Dec 2005 23:10 GMT
>Does not sound very liklely to me, AI indexing is incompatible with the
>metering systems on Nikon's current range of SLRS and DSLRs.

Nonsense. AI lenses work perfectly on the F100, F5 and F6 and FM3A
film SLRs. They also work perfectly on all the D1 and D2 series DSLRs,
plus the new D200.

They also mount on the consumer SLRs (N80 and below, D70 and D50) but
the meter does not work.
Nigel Cummings - 23 Dec 2005 09:20 GMT
Precisely the point made in the last sentence  "The meter does not work"

That will limit saleability of such lenses definitively

Of course there will be 'die hards' who will argue in favour of such
limitations...

>>Does not sound very liklely to me, AI indexing is incompatible with the
>>metering systems on Nikon's current range of SLRS and DSLRs.
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> They also mount on the consumer SLRs (N80 and below, D70 and D50) but
> the meter does not work.
Jeremy Nixon - 23 Dec 2005 09:52 GMT
> Precisely the point made in the last sentence  "The meter does not work"
>
> That will limit saleability of such lenses definitively

Those look like some pretty expensive lenses; I doubt that D50 owners are
much of a target market for them.

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Espen Stranger Seland - 27 Dec 2005 20:27 GMT
>> Precisely the point made in the last sentence  "The meter does not work"
>>
>> That will limit saleability of such lenses definitively
>
>Those look like some pretty expensive lenses; I doubt that D50 owners are
>much of a target market for them.

A very good and important point.

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Father Kodak - 23 Dec 2005 21:26 GMT
>Precisely the point made in the last sentence  "The meter does not work"
>
>That will limit saleability of such lenses definitively

I suspect only pro's will buy those lenses, and pro's also tend to
have older, AI Nikon lenses and camera bodies that will meter with the
pro's.  However, it does limit their usefulness with Nikon flash
systems.

>Of course there will be 'die hards' who will argue in favour of such
>limitations...

Really?  Help me understand who those die hards are, and more
importantly, WHY they make that argument?

Sheesh.  I stopped using my Weston Master IV meter, oh, 40 years ago.
Love built-in meters.  However II did recently buy a used Pentax
Spotmeter V [analog, not digital  :)  ]

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