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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2005Rich which lens?
Rich Which lens would you buy if you had a Canon, rather than your Olympus point and shoot -which thinks its a DSLR: a Canon 10-22 or Sigma 10-20? Trapper >Rich > >Which lens would you buy if you had a Canon, rather than your Olympus point >and shoot -which thinks its a DSLR: a Canon 10-22 or Sigma 10-20? Why would anyone want an EF-S mount lens now that the 5D is out or for that matter before? Remember Canon make both FF and 1.3 size sensor bodies. ********************************************************* "I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ >>Rich >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Why would anyone want an EF-S mount lens now that the 5D is out or for > that matter before? Anybody who doesn't want to spend over $3000 for a camera? 1.3x is dead in the water.  SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >>>Rich >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Anybody who doesn't want to spend over $3000 for a camera? >1.3x is dead in the water. People who need the 8fps is who will buy 1.3 still. I you haven't noticed Canon has just put out the 1DMkIIN for people who want the fast frame rate and 1 series features. So 1.3 is not dead in the water yet. And I've spend over that on a 5D for the Full Frame because I want Super wides to really be super wides. Skippy, don't project your limitations on others. ********************************************************* "I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ >>>>Rich >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Skippy, don't project your limitations on others. According to a couple of interviews I've read with Canon execs, they fully expect the 1 series to merge into a single product line in the very near future, which would indicate a full frame, high speed camera, or one that is convertible, like the Nikon. That the 1D mkIIn is so little changed is, to me, an indicator of just that. They didn't exactly overextend themselves with R&D funds to produce it, did they? Those aren't my limitations, I've got 2 5Ds ordered, even as we speak. For the same reason you say you've spent "over that." And the only two people why call me Skippy are women in my life, are you saying you want to join them? SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com > Skippy, don't project your limitations on others. Yet it's fine for you to project your lack of limitations on others? So when did the 10mm end of the APS lens on a 1.6 crop stop being a super wide? SignatureStacey >> Skippy, don't project your limitations on others. > > Yet it's fine for you to project your lack of limitations on others? So > when > did the 10mm end of the APS lens on a 1.6 crop stop being a super wide? 16mm has been considered superwide on 35mm film and full frame digital cameras. And, until the advent, recently, of lenses designed for cropped frame digital cameras, was close to as wide as you could get, at least in a zoom. And 14mm was as wide as you could get in a fixed focal length lens without going into fisheye territory, at least for Nikon and Canon SLRs. SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com Sure but NOW they do make a superwide zoom for the cropped sensor dSLR's and from the samples I've seen, perform quite well. For someone who is pretty sure they aren't going to drop $3000+ on a camera body, these APS wide zooms make a lot of sense SignatureStacey > Sure but NOW they do make a superwide zoom for the cropped sensor dSLR's > and from the samples I've seen, perform quite well. For someone who is > pretty sure they aren't going to drop $3000+ on a camera body, these APS > wide zooms make a lot of sense Sure they do. But if you already have, say, a 16-35 f2.8L, it doesn't reach it's full potential on a 1.6x crop. And all of the new crop of digital specific WA zooms are slower than f2.8. SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >>> Why would anyone want an EF-S mount lens now that the 5D is out or for >>> that matter before? >>Anybody who doesn't want to spend over $3000 for a camera? >And I've spend over that on a 5D for the Full Frame because I want >Super wides to really be super wides. Whoopie for you. Amazingly, some of us don't have your budget. >Skippy, don't project your limitations on others. John, don't be so damn patronising. Al Signature[This space intentionally left blank] >>>Rich >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Anybody who doesn't want to spend over $3000 for a camera? >1.3x is dead in the water. I doubt that. Drifter "I've been here, I've been there..." >>>>Rich >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Drifter > "I've been here, I've been there..." Well, I have two reasons for saying that. One, there was an interview with a Canon Europe exec in a Spanish mag in which the exec said that they were going to consolidate to two sensor sizes. Which means that either 1.6 or 1.3 goes away, since FF looks like it's here to stay, and the exec also confirmed that. With the intro of lenses specifically for 1.6x crop, and no support for 1.3x, I'd have to say that one is the lame duck. The intro of the new 1D mkIIn doesn't refute it, either. There's not a whole lot of R&D investment in that camera, is there? (By the way, that's reason no.2.) SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >>Rich >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Why would anyone want an EF-S mount lens now that the 5D is out or for > that matter before? Because not everyone can afford a $3500+ camera body? SignatureStacey >>>Rich >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Because not everyone can afford a $3500+ camera body? Watch it or John will get snippy with you, too. Cripes, it irritates me for guys to think that, just because they can afford to buy expensive stuff, anyone who doesn't follow their lead is stupid. But it really irritated me, in this case, because John assumed, since I disagreed with him, that I had some sort of limitation that was preventing me from buying the camera that he was. Not that I was simply stating a reason that someone might buy an EF-S lens and not be influenced by the impending existence of the 5D. SignatureSkip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com >Rich > >Which lens would you buy if you had a Canon, rather than your Olympus point >and shoot -which thinks its a DSLR: a Canon 10-22 or Sigma 10-20? > >Trapper I don't know. Which one is better? -Rich I'd buy a D2x, a 10.5mm and a 20mm Nikkor :) > Rich > > Which lens would you buy if you had a Canon, rather than your Olympus > point and shoot -which thinks its a DSLR: a Canon 10-22 or Sigma 10-20? > > Trapper |
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