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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / DSLR Cameras / September 2005A Camera, a Gun and a Computer Geek
a dangerous combination... http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm  SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com > a dangerous combination... > http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm I want one. -- Slack >> a dangerous combination... >> http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm >I want one. Me too, but it'd work better with a Glock. OTOH paint balls are more fun and the target can be reused ... with enough persuasation. Roger That's an outstanding project, I wish I had had one back in 03. Here's some other cool stuff - http://www.metalstorm.com/ >a dangerous combination... > http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm > That's an outstanding project, I wish I had had one back in 03. > > Here's some other cool stuff - > > http://www.metalstorm.com/ The problem with all that sh.t is the inventors/designers never had to lug it along climbing in and out of a HMMWV or Bradley; never tried to use it kicking down doors. Area Denial is only as good as the IFF. Another hunk of sh.t for a grunt to lug around. You gotta' have a transponder or your own robots will shoot the sh.t out of you. How cool is that? I would love to have two of those mounted on the porch of my home for when the 7th day adventist/mormons come around. >a dangerous combination... >http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm First, it's not a gun and secondly it's just a toy not real firearm. Now here is the real thing and in a proper caliber also. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/wsh/274.pdf The XM-101 CROWS. ********************************************************* "I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ >>a dangerous combination... >>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm > > First, it's not a gun and secondly it's just a toy not real firearm. According to Merriam-Webster, definition 1c, it is: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=gun Did I say it was anything other than a toy? And shouldn't it be "firstly" then "secondly", or "first" then "second"? SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com >>a dangerous combination... >>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/wsh/274.pdf That's not the same thing at all, guess you've never played HL2? SignatureStacey > >>a dangerous combination... > >>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That's not the same thing at all, guess you've never played HL2? If they built a gravity gun... then I'd be impressed. Signaturehttp://www.pbase.com/bcbaird >> That's not the same thing at all, guess you've never played HL2? > > If they built a gravity gun... then I'd be impressed. :-) SignatureStacey >>>a dangerous combination... >>>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >That's not the same thing at all, guess you've never played HL2? No, I shot real machine guns. ****************************************************** "When they poured across the border, I was cautioned to surrender. This I could not do I took my gun and vanished." "The Partisan" Emmanuel D'Astier de la Vigerie and Anna Marly 1943 >>>>a dangerous combination... >>>>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > No, I shot real machine guns. Here's another one that thought the same thing. Computer games depicting the effective use of firearms against a perceived enemy are for wimps. There's still a few of us around that already know what it's like to splatter a face all over a wall under full auto before they did the same thing to us. Brutal? Yup. Personal? Nah... just business, which I'm glad I'm no longer in. Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' I think the OP was pointing out the difference between an automated "sentry" system and a remote controlled one, virtual or real. So far, I have not seen any automated real system yet - the decision to pull the trigger is still in human hands, at least for now. Computer games aren't for wimps, Halo got us through ten months in Iraq - good stress relief in a crazy world. :) Just to stay on topic, here are some photos from Iraq, though shot with a p+s camera... http://www.pbase.com/anglotexan/iraq_2003 I got my digital SLR (Canon Rebel) when I got back as a present for myself. Take care all, BH >>>>>a dangerous combination... >>>>>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > thing to us. Brutal? Yup. Personal? Nah... just business, which I'm > glad I'm no longer in. >I think the OP was pointing out the difference between an automated "sentry" >system and a remote controlled one, virtual or real. So far, I have not seen >any automated real system yet - the decision to pull the trigger is still in >human hands, at least for now. Not any more the Fire Ant system developed at Sandia and takes the meat out of the loop. http://www.sandia.gov/isrc/fireant.html ********************************************************* "I have been a witness, and these pictures are my testimony. The events I have recorded should not be forgotten and must not be repeated." -James Nachtwey- http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ Yikes, Terminators are just a step away... >>I think the OP was pointing out the difference between an automated >>"sentry" [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -James Nachtwey- > http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ > Yikes, Terminators are just a step away... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >>http://www.sandia.gov/isrc/fireant.html It's a really piss poor image, but that looks like the rear end of an old US Army M-60 Tank. So, just how good is the discrimination circuit that keeps it from shooting at the good guys (defined: good guys = our guys)? From what little I could see in the video it does a grand job of shooting up our own stuff. Is it "smart" enough to know to NOT shoot our own stuff? >> Yikes, Terminators are just a step away... >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > From what little I could see in the video it does a grand job of shooting > up our own stuff. Is it "smart" enough to know to NOT shoot our own stuff? Some sort of IFF might solve that problem. >>>Yikes, Terminators are just a step away... >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Some sort of IFF might solve that problem. More sh.t you got to carry around, and since it's gonna' be made by the lowest bidder (assuming it is actually bid out), it's gonna' break when you need it most. > I think the OP was pointing out the difference between an automated "sentry" > system and a remote controlled one, virtual or real. So far, I have not seen [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Computer games aren't for wimps, Halo got us through ten months in Iraq - > good stress relief in a crazy world. :) Sounds good for spare time, but when living in an foxhole and sh.tting in your helmet, spare time was an unaffordble commodity - that's why we were so eager to kill something so we could "clean house". :) We delivered our ordinance wearing our boots. If we were still wearing them after the bang, mission accomplished. Back then, a smart bomb was a hand-thrown satchel charge with a unpredictable toaster timer. Some of us burned the toast and went home sooner than others. > Just to stay on topic, here are some photos from Iraq, though shot with a > p+s camera... > > http://www.pbase.com/anglotexan/iraq_2003 I like good restaurants, especially when you can see the name of the place *before* you order. :) > I got my digital SLR (Canon Rebel) when I got back as a present for myself. > > Take care all, > > BH Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' >>> Now here is the real thing and in a proper caliber also. >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No, I shot real machine guns. And that has what to do with the discusion? The guy designed an automated sentry weapon, not a remote controlled one. SignatureStacey >>a dangerous combination... >>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The XM-101 CROWS. More frikin' sh.t to break the springs. >>a dangerous combination... >>http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm > >First, it's not a gun and secondly it's just a toy not real firearm. What? You never heard the litany, "This for work this is for fun"... "This is my weapon and this is my gun"... Roger >Now here is the real thing and in a proper caliber also. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -James Nachtwey- > http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/ Roger From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> | a dangerous combination... | http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm And Off Topic for a dSLR News Group. SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm > From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> > > | a dangerous combination... > | http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm > > And Off Topic for a dSLR News Group. Not at all. If you read the conclusions you can see that one practical application for this would be to mount a dslr on it instead of the gun. Try reading it next time, or ignoring the post. SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> | Not at all. If you read the conclusions you can see that one practical | application for this would be to mount a dslr on it instead of the gun. Try | reading it next time, or ignoring the post. Adding a dSLR capabilities down the road does NOT make it a dSLR camera. It may be On Topic in alt.photography but not here. SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm > From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> > > | Not at all. If you read the conclusions you can see that one practical > | application for this would be to mount a dslr on it instead of the gun. > Try > | reading it next time, or ignoring the post. > Adding a dSLR capabilities down the road does NOT make it a dSLR camera. > It may be On Topic in alt.photography but not here. I say it is on topic here. SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> | I say it is on topic here. You need to read the Group's FAQ... http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm "In a nutshell, the r.p.d.slr-systems is a usenet* discussion board about all aspects of all types of digital slr camera equipment and accessories. Discussions range from questions about equipment on performance, compatibility, suitability and so on of particular equipment to esoteric discussions of design and implementation of specific features. Questions are answered by those who have the same or similar equipment, and often links to various useful resources are posted." Discouraged: "Top posting, links to irrelevant material, excessive cross posting, cross posting to unrelated groups, replying to trolls, signatures of more than 4 lines, signatures that are really spam (e.g.: links to commercial sites), use of "makeashorterlink"/"tnyurl" and similar link services unless for very long and unmanageable links." Just becuase an item may take a photograph, does not make the subject matter "On Topic". Just because you say it is does not make it so. Please follow the Charter and/or FAQ of this News Group. Based upon your previous posts I know you know better and you are not some dumb Troll. SignatureDave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm > From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> > > | I say it is on topic here. > > You need to read the Group's FAQ... > http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm <snip> > Based upon your previous posts I know you know better and you are not some > dumb Troll. No, I'm not, and all I'm saying is lighten up, it's an interesting article for techno geeks such as those who frequent this place; yeah, it's only marginally on topic, but that's better than a lot of what passes for discussion here. And make some leeway for, "I just shot a wedding, drank three beers, am feeling good and found a fun article I thought people here might enjoy (which several did)." That was last night, tonight I'm just plain ornery... ;-| SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com I totally agree with you Matt. I can see that it actually would have applications for a photographer. I can totally see photographers totally tracking a player in football in the future...or perhaps training the camera only on the ball ..or grand prix photographers.. And anyway...it was a very interesting aside which certainly got my imagination thinking about the photographic possibilities. David...I think you need to widen your limits of acceptability a little mate. Just because something is on topic doesn't make it interesting. I would rather Matt send something interesting like that over listening to Rich talk about his hatred of plastic, kit lenses and basically trolling the group trying to get a reaction. Lighten up....don't read it if it upsets you so much... >> From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > might enjoy (which several did)." That was last night, tonight I'm just > plain ornery... ;-| > I would rather Matt send something interesting like that over listening to > Rich talk about his hatred of plastic, I agree and enjoyed watching the video of that guys brother getting shot with plastic bb's. :-) SignatureStacey > From: "Matt Clara" <critics@large.com> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "In a nutshell, the r.p.d.slr-systems is a usenet* discussion board about all aspects of all > types of digital slr camera equipment and accessories. And an automatic "sentry" pointer & shooter could be an accessory to a DSLR. |
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