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Rich - 10 Sep 2005 23:43 GMT

On this page, I think they should have compared those images better.
The sky colour looks alot better in the film image, as does the cloud
detail. Also, the close-up they show (to indicate film "grain") is
B.S. No WAY film grain from 100 ISO colour neg (or whatever they
used) looks like that. Film grain is sharp. If grain from the size
area they selected actually looked like that, I'd say it was a shot
of 3200 ISO colour neg. film (if it still exists) and the enlarger
lens was WAY out of focus.
-Rich

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/cmos/fullframe-e/quality.html

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Ed Ruf - 11 Sep 2005 00:08 GMT

>On this page, I think they should have compared those images better.
>The sky colour looks alot better in the film image, as does the cloud
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>http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/cmos/fullframe-e/quality.html

Do you just like starting a new thread with each reply or what? For those
who actually use the tools in Agent to separate threads when the subject
changes, could you please at least not change the subject when it's not
warranted just for the hell of it?
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Colin D - 11 Sep 2005 00:57 GMT

> On this page, I think they should have compared those images better.
> The sky colour looks alot better in the film image, as does the cloud
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> http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/cmos/fullframe-e/quality.html

Rich, I have to say you are a brainless bullshitter with an anti-Canon
fixation any good psychiatrist would be proud to treat.

Read Carefully: *black-white* film grain is sharp, because you are
seeing the actual silver clumps in the emulsion. *Color* film grain is
*not* sharp, because a) the 'grain' is actually composed of dye clouds
formed during development in the vicinity of the silver; and b) there
are at least three layes of dye clouds stacked vertically in the
emulsion.

In your mind, see a large shotgun. See a large hobby horse named
AntiCanon. Shoot the horse in the head. Exit from daydream. With
luck, you'll be cured.

Colin D.

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Rich - 11 Sep 2005 02:46 GMT

>> On this page, I think they should have compared those images better.
>> The sky colour looks alot better in the film image, as does the cloud
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>Colin D.

I've seen both black and white and colour film grain, NEITHER is
as diffuse as they portrayed. In addition, the area they enlarged
wasn't enlarged nearly enough to even show film grain to any extent,
certain not 100 ISO film whose grains (clouds if you must) are
microscopic.
-Rich

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Charlie Self - 11 Sep 2005 09:20 GMT

> >> On this page, I think they should have compared those images better.
> >> The sky colour looks alot better in the film image, as does the cloud
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> microscopic.
> -Rich

You are in dire need of a hobby. It might really help with your
fixation.

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