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Slack - 03 Sep 2005 06:07 GMT
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml  and don't
cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/

The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.
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Rich - 03 Sep 2005 11:03 GMT
>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml  and don't
>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>
>The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.

Well it has to be.  It's much more affordable than the top Canon,
gives the old folks home people the full frame sensor they NEED
and isn't too heavy so regular shooters won't mind lugging it around.
But the sample images, especially the landscape were not great.
The landscape (to me) still looks odd.  Apart from the optical
problems of the lens(?) the sky looks like it was grafted into the
picture.  I don't know why, and I assume it wasn't, it just looks odd.
-Rich
Stacey - 03 Sep 2005 16:11 GMT
> The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
> going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.

I hope they do sell well and I'm sure they will. I see NOTHING wrong with
the camera, just hope canon comes out with a new WA zoom to work on it and
I'll probably buy one too.

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John A. Stovall - 04 Sep 2005 22:35 GMT
>> The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>> going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.
>
>I hope they do sell well and I'm sure they will. I see NOTHING wrong with
>the camera, just hope canon comes out with a new WA zoom to work on it and
>I'll probably buy one too.

Why a zoom?  I would rather see Primes as good as the Zeiss ones...

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Stacey - 05 Sep 2005 04:02 GMT
>>> The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>>> going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.
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>
> Why a zoom?  I would rather see Primes as good as the Zeiss ones...

I'm sick of carrying a sack full of primes around. Given today's technology
and the fact these are ALL retrofocus lenses, they should be able to design
a wide zoom that performs well. If I wanted to use a prime, I could just
use the zeiss one, which was designed a LONG time ago.
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Tony   Polson - 03 Sep 2005 23:23 GMT
>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml  and don't
>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>
>The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.

I think everyone recognises that Canon changed the world (of digital
photography) forever with the EOS 300D/Rebel, the first affordable
DSLR.  Now they have changed the world (ditto) once again, with the
EOS 5D, the first affordable full frame (24x36mm) DSLR.  In terms of
the DSLR market, the 5D is every bit as significant as the 300D was.

Of course the EOS 5D will be one of the best selling DSLRs ever.  It
will almost certainly be the best selling full frame (24x36mm) DSLR
for the next couple of years.  Nikon's first full frame DSLR won't
arrive until 2006, and it will not compete on price with the EOS 5D,
being aimed more at the market for the EOS 1Ds II.


McLeod - 04 Sep 2005 06:39 GMT
>Of course the EOS 5D will be one of the best selling DSLRs ever.  It
>will almost certainly be the best selling full frame (24x36mm) DSLR
>for the next couple of years.  Nikon's first full frame DSLR won't
>arrive until 2006, and it will not compete on price with the EOS 5D,
>being aimed more at the market for the EOS 1Ds II.

I believe you're right about the 5D.  I don't think you're right about
Nikon developing a 35mm sized sensor.  Nikon seems to be forging ahead
with new DX glass and the smaller sensor.
l e o - 04 Sep 2005 13:01 GMT
Tony Polson wrote:

>>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml  and don't
>>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> arrive until 2006, and it will not compete on price with the EOS 5D,
> being aimed more at the market for the EOS 1Ds II.

That's plain wrong. At $3200, 5D won't be the best selling dSLRs. The
crown should belong to 350D and D50. Your statement would be correct, as
the best selling FF dSLR. :)
Rich - 04 Sep 2005 20:19 GMT
>Tony Polson wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>crown should belong to 350D and D50. Your statement would be correct, as
>the best selling FF dSLR. :)

Since new DSLR consumers seem to be a major driving force in sales,
I'd say your prediction is the right one.  For some reason, despite
their complexity, DSLRs seem to have a smaller "fear factor" for the
general public than SLRs used to.
-Rich
Slack - 04 Sep 2005 20:44 GMT
>>Tony Polson wrote:
>>
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> general public than SLRs used to.
> -Rich

It's got nothing to do with fear, it is the removal of the PIA factor.
Now that we no longer have go through a "middle man" to enjoy (or curse)
our own work, it busted the doors wide open.

Film served it purpose, but it's now time to toss those little canisters
in the dumpster.
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Slack
Rich - 05 Sep 2005 03:32 GMT
>>>Tony Polson wrote:
>>>
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>Film served it purpose, but it's now time to toss those little canisters
>in the dumpster.

It was time when 3 meg cameras came out.
-Rich
Matt Clara - 06 Sep 2005 17:34 GMT
> >Film served it purpose, but it's now time to toss those little canisters
> >in the dumpster.
>
> It was time when 3 meg cameras came out.
> -Rich

You guys sound like you're preaching to the choir...

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Alan Browne - 04 Sep 2005 22:52 GMT
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml  and don't
> cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>
> The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
> going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.

This NG has little market influence.

As to the camera, if pixels/$ in FF are a benchmark, it looks like it
will have a very large following even before the innevitable price
rolldown and rebates.

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Slack - 04 Sep 2005 23:27 GMT
>> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml  and don't
>> cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
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>
> This NG has little market influence.

I meant the collective on-line community.
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